Jack3d on an empty stomach = death for me

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    Aug 01, 2011 3:59 PM GMT
    So I took Jack3d for the first time yesterday and again today. Yesterday I felt nothing so today I took 2 scoops when I woke up (without eating since I hear it works best on an empty stomach) and went to the gym. I still felt absolutely nothing from it. No extra energy, no focus, nothing. I am assuming it is because i am not affected by stims very much because of my long-standing coke (a-cola) addiction in my childhood and teen years.

    But the worst part was the way I felt. I sometimes get sick and feel like death when I haven't eaten so I felt horrible after 10 minutes in the gym. I had the shakes (from being weak, not over stimmed) and wanted to vomit and die. I need to eat before my workouts clearly.

    So my questions are: should I try again and see if maybe it was a bad day or should I simply eat and take Jack3d? It doesn't affect me on an empty stomach so I assume 3 scoops won't either on a full stomach. Should I just ditch the Jack3d since its extras are doing nothing for me and take just creatine or something else instead? Ayudame!
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    Aug 01, 2011 5:30 PM GMT
    Switch to Amino Energy by Optimum Nutrition.

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    I would only by Jack3d (how do you pronounce this?), Superpump (aka Superdump), or NO-Xplode (perfectly named laxative) again if they sold them with two rolls of toilet tissue and alka-seltzer.
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    Aug 01, 2011 5:40 PM GMT
    3 scoops is too much I think. I do a scoop and a half and I'm good to go
  • SF2PS

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    Aug 01, 2011 6:26 PM GMT
    I suspect that as KSUOWL figured out that the issue is what it means to take something "on an empty stomach" - eating a meal two to three hours before a workout and then taking NO-Xplode 30 minutes before I hit the gym works well for me. But eating that meal is really important.

    If I need to work out early I always choose calories over stimulants. If I get short on time, a protein shake is a good option (easier to eat, easier to digest) - a banana and/or a yogurt also works.

    There is nothing worse (for me) then getting part way through a workout and hitting "empty" - shakes, nausea etc.

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    Aug 01, 2011 6:36 PM GMT
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    Aug 01, 2011 6:36 PM GMT
    I used to take Jack3d first thing in the morning (I work out around 6AM), and it always seemed to work fine and w/o any immediate side effects, but over time, I suppose I got used to it and stopped feeling the extra energy, so I'm not longer using it (but I've been wanting to try the new N.O Xplode 2.0).
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    Aug 01, 2011 6:43 PM GMT
    SF2PS saidI suspect that as KSUOWL figured out that the issue is what it means to take something "on an empty stomach" - eating a meal two to three hours before a workout and then taking NO-Xplode 30 minutes before I hit the gym works well for me. But eating that meal is really important.

    If I need to work out early I always choose calories over stimulants. If I get short on time, a protein shake is a good option (easier to eat, easier to digest) - a banana and/or a yogurt also works.

    There is nothing worse (for me) then getting part way through a workout and hitting "empty" - shakes, nausea etc.



    I think I agree with you about chosing calories over stims. I was skeptical to try it on an empty stomach, but I have no time to eat a meal a few hours before taking jack3d because I have to get to the gym by 6am to get to work on time. I did a lot of research and some people said they wake up, take it and go to the gym so I tried it and I guess it isn't for me. I guess that's why I wonder if I should just start eating and taking just creatine instead of jack3d.
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    Aug 01, 2011 6:44 PM GMT
    you could just workout without an energy supplement?
  • str8hardbody9

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    Aug 01, 2011 6:50 PM GMT
    I always eat an hour or 2 before I workout. I only use one scoop of Jack 3-D and it works for me. eat, eat & eat healty
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    Aug 01, 2011 6:52 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete said

    I would only by Jack3d (how do you pronounce this?), Superpump (aka Superdump), or NO-Xplode (perfectly named laxative) again if they sold them with two rolls of toilet tissue and alka-seltzer.


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    Aug 01, 2011 6:54 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete saidSwitch to Amino Energy by Optimum Nutrition.

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    I would only by Jack3d (how do you pronounce this?), Superpump (aka Superdump), or NO-Xplode (perfectly named laxative) again if they sold them with two rolls of toilet tissue and alka-seltzer.



    +1

    I love this stuff, no shakes but effective and it has all the Amino needed,....


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    Aug 01, 2011 7:15 PM GMT
    I usually just take one scoop of Jack3D on an empty stomach. I have never had any stomach issues.

    A while back I was taking NOxPLODE and had major issues.

    I definitely can tell a difference with just one scoop. Maybe if I upped it to 1 1/2 or 2 I'd see more results?

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    Aug 01, 2011 7:27 PM GMT
    Just eat a light protein and veggie meal before
    And a full protein meal after a workout. You will feel the difference .
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    Aug 02, 2011 12:06 AM GMT
    3 scoops of Jack3d do nothing for me!
    I swear I'm gonna start doing 5 scoops!
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    Aug 02, 2011 12:08 AM GMT
    KSUOWL saidSo I took Jack3d for the first time yesterday and again today. Yesterday I felt nothing so today I took 2 scoops when I woke up (without eating since I hear it works best on an empty stomach) and went to the gym. I still felt absolutely nothing from it. No extra energy, no focus, nothing. I am assuming it is because i am not affected by stims very much because of my long-standing coke (a-cola) addiction in my childhood and teen years.

    But the worst part was the way I felt. I sometimes get sick and feel like death when I haven't eaten so I felt horrible after 10 minutes in the gym. I had the shakes (from being weak, not over stimmed) and wanted to vomit and die. I need to eat before my workouts clearly.

    So my questions are: should I try again and see if maybe it was a bad day or should I simply eat and take Jack3d? It doesn't affect me on an empty stomach so I assume 3 scoops won't either on a full stomach. Should I just ditch the Jack3d since its extras are doing nothing for me and take just creatine or something else instead? Ayudame!
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    Aug 02, 2011 12:08 AM GMT
    It screwed with my stomach too. Most all of the supplements do.
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    Aug 02, 2011 12:10 AM GMT
    You build tolerance over time until you practically don't feel anything at current dosage and need to take more and more and more. It's the same with all stimulants.
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    Aug 02, 2011 12:10 AM GMT
    I have never tried Jack3d ever. However, I have had some epic pumps with creatine and I have used Complete Nutrition's Buzzerk and Muscle Pharm's Assault. Both are good products, however, I'm not 100% used to Assault, so I feel weird after taking it, plus it has a chalky texture.
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    Aug 02, 2011 12:12 AM GMT
    CHIdude said3 scoops of Jack3d do nothing for me!
    I swear I'm gonna start doing 5 scoops!


    Sounds like it's time for you to cycle-off it for a week or two before restarting on one or two scoops.
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    Aug 02, 2011 12:20 AM GMT
    I think Jack3d is great- it succeeded in packaging focus and energy for workouts. It gets me through my weights, abs workouts and cardio without any tiring. (I add it to a protein smoothie or just gulp it down with lots water with eyes closed since I hate the citrus flavor.) I started it on one scoop (little effect) and worked up to three scoops with excellent results when taken ~45 minutes before beginning workouts. I've been off it a couple weeks and restart it this week.

    I was properly taught long ago to never work out hungry. The body needs fuel like a fire needs fuel, oxygen and a spark to fire up and burn. The body should be substantially challenged, not abused.

  • MrPapo317

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    Aug 02, 2011 12:24 AM GMT
    BuddyinNYC said
    CHIdude said3 scoops of Jack3d do nothing for me!
    I swear I'm gonna start doing 5 scoops!


    Sounds like it's time for you to cycle-off it for a week or two before restarting on one or two scoops.


    i had to do that.

    i took about 2 months off of Jack3d. i was doing 3 scoops before i cycled off. now only 2. im gonna cycle off again soon.
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    Oct 17, 2011 8:48 PM GMT
    Today was the first time in approximately three months that I used (two scoops) Jack3d and it hasn't lost its' touch in enhancing focus. It was a nearly finished container and the stuff was somewhat coagulated so it wasn't as well mixed as it should be (I'm always careful to shake up the container since its' dry compounds settle quickly). Before each time I've use it I've had two cups of coffee, but from experience the coffee alone doesn't do what the Jack3d does to improve workouts.
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    Oct 17, 2011 8:50 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete saidSwitch to Amino Energy by Optimum Nutrition.

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    I would only by Jack3d (how do you pronounce this?), Superpump (aka Superdump), or NO-Xplode (perfectly named laxative) again if they sold them with two rolls of toilet tissue and alka-seltzer.


    I prefer Amino Energy over Jack3d also.
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    Oct 18, 2011 12:55 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidThrow that garbage away.

    word... i never got into that junk!
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    Oct 18, 2011 12:56 AM GMT
    I do three scoops on an empty stomach, doesn't bother me