Guys.,, I Really Do Need Your Opinion.....

  • kemoze

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    Aug 01, 2011 8:23 PM GMT
    Guys, i am trying to travel to canada since february, 2011,
    now after about 14 moths working in kuwait without vacation, to save money to be able to move to canada, i have the money now, i know its not that much but its enough to travel and start all over again somewhere else,
    but seems like canada is a big dream for me, i am 22 old i will be 23 in december, so my life here started to be next to impossible to breathe, when i am sure that if come out of the closet, i will lose my family and my work and all i have, and also i want to come out and live the real me ,

    Guys do you know an easy way for me to go to canada or its impossibe ?
    Guys if canada is impossible what other places might be good for someone like me,?
    i mean any country where you feel safe, getting job is not that difficult, and being gay there is ok
  • Jerebear

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    Aug 02, 2011 1:29 AM GMT
    I live in Canada, and I know quite a few people who have immigrated here. Most of the people I know in my personal life did it by marrying a Canadian, but I work mostly with Indians that came here other ways.

    What country are you a citizen of? Find an organization online of Canadians of that origin. They will likely be the best experts of what can be expected during the immigration process.

    You can't be fired for being gay in Canada, even if you are an immigrant, those basic rights belong to everyone here.
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    Aug 02, 2011 1:43 AM GMT
    From what I've heard gaining Canadian citizen ship is kind of tough now due to people wanting to move there for their healthcare system...

    There are a lot of out middle easterners in Los Angeles (and we don't have nasty winters!) so if you don't mind the US add that to your list.

    Canada is a beautiful country though!
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    Aug 02, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
    I thought the UK would be your default choice, especially given its high migrant population and proximity to Egypt. Unless of course, you desire to be as far away from your birth country as possible, in which case, Canada and the US make sense. Whatever it is, I don't recommend trying Australia, their current immigration policies leave much to be desired. Anywhere else, as long as you have the skills required by that country, you should find the transition much easier.
  • kemoze

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    Aug 02, 2011 2:51 PM GMT
    Jerebear saidI live in Canada, and I know quite a few people who have immigrated here. Most of the people I know in my personal life did it by marrying a Canadian, but I work mostly with Indians that came here other ways.

    What country are you a citizen of? Find an organization online of Canadians of that origin. They will likely be the best experts of what can be expected during the immigration process.

    You can't be fired for being gay in Canada, even if you are an immigrant, those basic rights belong to everyone here.


    i am trying to live in canada as soon as possible but to apply for the immigration so i have to wait at least five years and i cant gurantee the success,
    but i tried getting a study visa, but this gonna consume all my money to pay for the college and lots of unnecessary costs.,
    i tried to get work permit but how can i get a work permit, this is the problem , how can i get any work permit that allows me to go to canada and work there,
    i can't trust the internet agencies,
  • kemoze

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    Aug 02, 2011 2:54 PM GMT
    CABucky saidFrom what I've heard gaining Canadian citizen ship is kind of tough now due to people wanting to move there for their healthcare system...

    There are a lot of out middle easterners in Los Angeles (and we don't have nasty winters!) so if you don't mind the US add that to your list.

    Canada is a beautiful country though!

    but pple in us are not welcoming, i dont know , violance and lots of crimes there.
    sometimes i dont feel comfortabele to the idea of going to us
    even i meet lots of awesome us guys, but i never thought about us
  • kemoze

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    Aug 02, 2011 2:58 PM GMT
    edmirer saidI thought the UK would be your default choice, especially given its high migrant population and proximity to Egypt. Unless of course, you desire to be as far away from your birth country as possible, in which case, Canada and the US make sense. Whatever it is, I don't recommend trying Australia, their current immigration policies leave much to be desired. Anywhere else, as long as you have the skills required by that country, you should find the transition much easier.


    i like uk so much, i dont know but i have been told that uk pple are awesome, and they show respect to others,,,
    may be i will check uk too , i will but it in my list .
    but australlia.. impossible descrimination against arabs and muslems there
    i dont like living among racism pple
  • davidsticky69

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    Aug 02, 2011 3:04 PM GMT
    Is it too weird/inappropriate that I felt an adrenaline rush to my head while reading your immigration plan?!

    This is f*cking fantastic!

    I have never been (let alone lived) to Canada nor UK or USA before so I can't give you any solid advice. But hey man what you are doing is so inspirational!

    You have my complete moral support!

    Damn it's an exciting adventure out there for you!

    Embrace that world of possibilities!

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  • kemoze

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    Aug 02, 2011 3:16 PM GMT
    davidsticky69 saidIs it too weird/inappropriate that I felt an adrenaline rush to my head while reading your immigration plan?!

    This is f*cking fantastic!

    I have never been (let alone lived) to Canada nor UK or USA before so I can't give you any solid advice. But hey man what you are doing is so inspirational!

    You have my complete moral support!

    Damn it's an exciting adventure out there for you!

    Embrace that world of possibilities!

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    man, what you think,
    someone like me or anyone wants to live free, wants to love, wants to have dinner with someone once in their life, its really worthy,
    i am not travelling for hook up or such sexual purposes , i just want feel real love
    love that i can touch, love in my real world not a fake love made of my imagination.
    but all i can do now is fighting to do it..
  • geojock

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    Aug 02, 2011 3:22 PM GMT
    I don't know a lot about the process itself but I would suggest you get in contact with one of the many non-profit organizations that help out new Canadians. I know the YMCA in Toronto has a lot of programs so that would be one first stop. Also check out Citizen and Immigration Canada's website to know what class of immigrant you would fall under. The process is completely different if you are applying as an economic migrant (ie just want a better job) or as a refugee (moving because of fear of violence). For the first class it is based on points awarded for education, work experience, language etc.

    oh and don't take Vorsicht's comment too seriously. It is true that more than half of Toronto's population was born outside of Canada but this is largely seen as a point of pride by the city's population. Moreover, the downtown is booming with new condos and thousands of people moving in.

    http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.asp

  • kemoze

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    Aug 02, 2011 3:26 PM GMT
    Vorsicht saidif you think canada will embrace you with open arms,
    i suggest you think again..

    lots of toronto, from what i hear, is overcrowded with immigrants
    and a lot of the locals are fleeing the cities and heading for the country
    because of it

    you could bring a 6 headed donkey to the u.s. and we wouldn't even flinch
    we'd snap pictures of it and put it on the internet,
    but i think it's safe to say there's just about everything here

    i don't know much of canadian law
    and i feel a little out of place for giving u advice as to how u can get there to stay

    if you can get to the uk, maybe give that a go

    its closer, and you can probably get there for less



    nothing is easy, i know this , and i am ready for the journey
    when i first left egypt for a well paid job in kuwait i had lots of troubles, like the weather here is so damn hot you cant imagine how hot its here, also pple here are not open minded, and i had to live and accomodate myself with different cultures and actually my job here is done now , i got the money so i have to move ..
    i will think again of UK.. i like british pple
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    Aug 02, 2011 3:33 PM GMT
    kemoze said
    CABucky saidFrom what I've heard gaining Canadian citizen ship is kind of tough now due to people wanting to move there for their healthcare system...

    There are a lot of out middle easterners in Los Angeles (and we don't have nasty winters!) so if you don't mind the US add that to your list.

    Canada is a beautiful country though!

    but pple in us are not welcoming, i dont know , violance and lots of crimes there.
    sometimes i dont feel comfortabele to the idea of going to us
    even i meet lots of awesome us guys, but i never thought about us


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    Sounds like Swtizerland, Norway or Sweden might be good for you.
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    Aug 02, 2011 5:06 PM GMT
    I'm a US citizen, but love Canada. Great country, good health care, less stress. You are young and speak English well, so you should do OK. Quebec is my favorite province and where I would move. It is cold and snowy, qute a shock for someone who lived in Kuwait. You wil have to learn French if yu move there, but again you are young and smart, and lots of immigrants do it.
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    Aug 02, 2011 5:32 PM GMT
    As a previously mentioned you need to contact local (legit) Canadian Organizations in order for them to give you proper guidance. Immigration laws have become tougher so you really need to put your best foot forward in order for the immigration process to pass relatively easy. You may have to take a language test in order for fluency and comprehension.

    Baring declaring asylum based on your sexuality which can be used as a last resort, contact the immigration office nearest you for any other information you need.

    This is the month of Ramadan where we can reflect and wish upon what we want. Somethings are granted some are not but InshAllah may your path to Canada be true.


  • kemoze

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    Aug 02, 2011 5:33 PM GMT
    antelope saidI'm a US citizen, but love Canada. Great country, good health care, less stress. You are young and speak English well, so you should do OK. Quebec is my favorite province and where I would move. It is cold and snowy, qute a shock for someone who lived in Kuwait. You wil have to learn French if yu move there, but again you are young and smart, and lots of immigrants do it.


    all i can say is thank you so much,
    i am trying all the time but as you know its not that easy for middle eastern to travel to canada,,

    but i am sure one day the luck would be by my side