Some beginner questions

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    Apr 29, 2008 5:10 PM GMT
    Hey guys! I have joined this website lately because i want to improve my body. Build muscle and become healthier.
    I have been reading and asking around and the result is that i should be taking whey protein if i want to build muscle and exercise a different body part every day so as to leave the others to rest and recover and so forth.
    My question is when i have built my desired muscle mass do i have to continue using the protein? Someone i asked said yes but what i dont get is that if i just continue going to the gym why should my body brake down muscle if i am eating all right? Also i was recommended the LA muscle whey protein. Anyone thats tried it or any other suggestions would be great. Thanks
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    Apr 30, 2008 11:02 PM GMT
    Anyone??
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    May 01, 2008 2:02 PM GMT
    hm. try the nutrition forums.

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    May 01, 2008 4:53 PM GMT
    Well ok thanx. I wasnt going to open a new topic so that i dont spam but since no one here is helping.
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    May 01, 2008 4:58 PM GMT
    From what I know, atrophy occurs due to muscle inactivity. So as long as you are working out, using those muscles and getting the proper daily intake of protein you need from your diet, your muscles should be fine without supplemental products. What's the point of taking protein shakes if your diet is already providing the necessary materials you need to maintain your muscles ? After all, excess protein is stored as adipose tissue (fat).

    However, take what I say with a grain of salt as I am also a beginner. I use cheap GNC whey protein powder.
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    May 01, 2008 11:35 PM GMT
    Ill see if i can keep it short and simple. your body burns different energy sources as it deems necessary at any given time. If you do cardio and are maintain heart rate above the 80% rate you will burn muscle for energy as it breaks down quicker. Also during weight lifting especially power lifting you break down/tear down muscles, which is why you need a day between to let it rebuild. There are lots of articles on the net that will tell you in depth how the body uses different energy sources.

    Muscles do need time to recover and pushing them to exhaustion is still a good way to build them up. To build up endurance and speed a tabata routine works great. Also make sure you are taking in all the proper nutrients and amino acids. Even if you think you are eating right most likely you still arent taking in all the necessary nutrients needed.

    My routine is
    week 1 power lift sun, mon, wed, fri
    week 2 tabata sun, mon, wed, fri
    week 3 tabata sun, mon, wed, fri
    week 4 cardio sun, mon, wed, fri

    Im not working to build mass but more so pushing my limits while maintaining max speed. You would want to switch cardio for powerlifting.


    I dont recommend any particular brand for whey as each persons body is different. I had to try 12 different brands before I found one that worked well with me and was easily digested.

    Almost forgot people will have different definitions and meanings for power lifting. For me its Max weight for 8reps 3sets. So if you can only 6reps of 200lbs drop it down a bit to bring it to 8 reps at 4 sets. Max press is max weight 3reps. Endurance for me is 20reps 5sets. Tabata look it up basically 20sets fast as possible 10sec break repeat for 4min. Weight for tabata is generally half that of what i use in endurance.
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    May 02, 2008 4:56 PM GMT
    TroubledMind said:

    "My question is when i have built my desired muscle mass do i have to continue using the protein? Someone i asked said yes but what i dont get is that if i just continue going to the gym why should my body brake down muscle if i am eating all right?"

    To speak to that specifically, when you do weights, you are tearing your muscles (as OnMyWay and Tony pointed out already). This means they need rest to recover, but you also require the proper nutrition. If you stopped doing weights, you wouldn't require as much rest or as much nutrition, but then you'd slowly start losing your muscles, because you use em or lose em. So basically you're in this for life. Of course, once you've reached your goals, it won't take as much effort to maintain what you have.

    To figure out out what your nutrition requirements actually are, look online. I think fitday.com has calculators, but I'm sure you'll find something easily using google. You want to find out what your resting metabolic rate is and use that to calculate how much food you need, based on how much you do on different days.

    On days you work out, you'll need more food than days that you don't. Same goes for when you do cardio. And if you want to get really technical, depending on the time of day and exercise you're doing, it'll be even more efficient if you eat different macro nutrients (carbs, proteins or fats).

    In terms of the specific protein to use, it probably doesn't matter too much. Try to use natural sources for as much protein as you can (chicken, fish). To make up the extra calories (or for convenience), you can use a protein powder, but it's probably more important to get one that is low sugar, and tastes good to you, then it is to worry about the brand. bodybuilding.com has tons of reviews and tons of products that you can order, plus tons of info on each of them. Start there, or just get and try the brand that's easiest to get for now.

    Hope that helps.
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    May 02, 2008 7:34 PM GMT
    Thank you guys!! Very helpful information!!! This is exactly what i wanted. I have been searching around the internet some more and got even more answers. Thanx again for all the suggestions ;)