Republican Congressman calls Obama a "tar baby"

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    Aug 02, 2011 2:31 AM GMT
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    Congressman calls Obama a "tar baby"

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    WASHINGTON (CNN) - In the heat of the political debate over the debt ceiling last week, Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO) may have crossed the line when he said that being associated with President Obama would be similar to touching a “tar baby”.

    “Even if some people say, well the Republicans should have done this or they should have done that, they will hold the President responsible,” said Lamborn said Friday during an interview on a Denver radio station. “Now I don’t want to even have to be associated with him. It’s like touching a tar baby and you get, you get it, you know… you are stuck and you are part of the problem now and you can’t get away.”

    Now critics are questioning his use of that term and are calling it highly offensive to the president.

    The term “tar baby” is a reference to 19th-century Uncle Remus stories about Br’er Rabbit but has taken on a negative connotation towards African-Americans.

    Lamborn spokeswoman Catherine Mortensen said the comments were a misunderstanding and he apologizes.

    “Congressman Lamborn regrets any misunderstanding. He simply meant to refer to a sticky situation or quagmire,” she said.

    The Republican congressman is not the first to run into trouble with the phrase. Mitt Romney referred to the Big Dig construction project in Boston as a "tar baby" in 2006 during a fundraiser on the campaign trail. And Sen. John McCain also used the term during his campaign for president. Both men apologized.

    The White House has not given any comment on Rep. Lamborn's
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    Aug 02, 2011 2:32 AM GMT
    It's not coincidental that all of the politicans who have used this offensive term are Republicans.
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    Aug 02, 2011 3:23 AM GMT
    It is inappropriate, but for balance, Clarence Thomas has been called an "Uncle Tom" by Democrats, including those on this site.
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    Aug 02, 2011 3:41 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidIt is inappropriate, but for balance, Clarence Thomas has been called an "Uncle Tom" by Democrats, including those on this site.


    Yea, not even close.
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    Aug 02, 2011 3:44 AM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    socalfitness saidIt is inappropriate, but for balance, Clarence Thomas has been called an "Uncle Tom" by Democrats, including those on this site.


    Yea, not even close.


    Nope. Not even slightly close.
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    Aug 02, 2011 3:48 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidIt is inappropriate, but for balance, Clarence Thomas has been called an "Uncle Tom" by Democrats, including those on this site.


    not an Uncle Tom, just an asshole
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    Aug 02, 2011 9:37 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidNope. Not even slightly close.

    Right - and here are the reasons they are not close:
    Obama - still liked by the left
    Thomas - hated by the left

    tar baby - most recently spoken by a Republican
    uncle tom - freely used by the left including on RJ at will

    The double standard prevails.
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    Aug 02, 2011 12:01 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 saidNope. Not even slightly close.

    Right - and here are the reasons they are not close:
    Obama - still liked by the left
    Thomas - hated by the left

    tar baby - most recently spoken by a Republican
    uncle tom - freely used by the left including on RJ at will

    The double standard prevails.


    Wrong.

    Obama - friend of African American community
    Thomas - Race traitor and enemy of African American community

    tar baby - long standing racist slur used to continue oppression
    uncle tom - terms used by (some) African Americans to identify those who have sold our their community for personal benefit

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    Aug 02, 2011 6:56 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 saidNope. Not even slightly close.

    Right - and here are the reasons they are not close:
    Obama - still liked by the left
    Thomas - hated by the left

    tar baby - most recently spoken by a Republican
    uncle tom - freely used by the left including on RJ at will

    The double standard prevails.





    Total BS.

    "tar baby" is a hateful denigrating slur used to put down black people based on the race they were born with.

    "Uncle Tom" is a critical term used to describe the BEHAVIOR of a black person, not the simple fact of their race.

    It's fair to criticize someone for their behavior and the choices they've made.
    We can control our behavior and the choices we make.

    It's NOT fair or morally right to hate on someone because of their race.
    No one has any control over the race they were born with.

  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 02, 2011 9:43 PM GMT
    Clearly the Congressman should be punished by being Tarred & Feathered in The Rose Garden during a Presidential press conference. icon_cool.gif
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    Aug 03, 2011 12:58 AM GMT
    You idiots, a tar baby is something or someone you get stuck to, it has nothing to with anything racial.

    DICTIONARY:

    "something from which it is nearly impossible to extricate oneself"

    god I'm so sick of stupid threads like this
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    Aug 03, 2011 1:30 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidYou idiots, a tar baby is something or someone you get stuck to, it has nothing to with anything racial.

    DICTIONARY:

    "something from which it is nearly impossible to extricate oneself"

    god I'm so sick of stupid threads like this


    Tar Baby has often been used in a racially pejorative way. For you to state it has "nothing to do with anything racial" is an awfully big claim. Best not to use that expression at all. I'm not going to accuse the congressman of any ill intent in using that expression but to deny like you have just means you need to get your head out of the sand.
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    mocktwinkie saidYou idiots, a tar baby is something or someone you get stuck to, it has nothing to with anything racial.

    DICTIONARY:

    "something from which it is nearly impossible to extricate oneself"

    god I'm so sick of stupid threads like this


    Tar Baby has often been used in a racially pejorative way. For you to state it has "nothing to do with anything racial" is an awfully big claim. Best not to use that expression at all. I'm not going to accuse the congressman of any ill intent in using that expression but to deny like you have just means you need to get your head out of the sand.


    NO, look at the dictionary, look at what it means. Do you have any evidence that this was said in a racially intended way? NO. It's bullocks.

    So yes, this has NOTHING to do with anything racial. The etymology of the word has nothing to do with how it is used today.
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    Aug 03, 2011 1:48 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    mke_bt said
    mocktwinkie saidYou idiots, a tar baby is something or someone you get stuck to, it has nothing to with anything racial.

    DICTIONARY:

    "something from which it is nearly impossible to extricate oneself"

    god I'm so sick of stupid threads like this


    Tar Baby has often been used in a racially pejorative way. For you to state it has "nothing to do with anything racial" is an awfully big claim. Best not to use that expression at all. I'm not going to accuse the congressman of any ill intent in using that expression but to deny like you have just means you need to get your head out of the sand.




    NO, look at the dictionary, look at what it means. Do you have any evidence that this was said in a racially intended way? NO. It's bullocks.

    So yes, this has NOTHING to do with anything racial. Investigating the etymology is stupid, it obviously has no connection anymore.


    Can't you freakin' read? I specifically stated that I was not going to accuse the congressman of any ill intent. Also, I basically said I feel expressions like that should simply be retired from our lexicon. The Brits used a similar expression in Colonial India, "touched with the tar brush". It is seldom heard today.
  • rnch

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    Aug 03, 2011 1:49 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]mocktwinkie said...
    NO, look at the dictionary, look at what it means. Do you have any evidence that this was said in a racially intended way? NO. It's bullocks.

    So yes, this has NOTHING to do with anything racial... [/quote]


    mt, if you really believe this...then you are "book smart but real world stupid".
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    Aug 03, 2011 2:03 AM GMT
    mke_bt said
    mocktwinkie said
    mke_bt said
    mocktwinkie saidYou idiots, a tar baby is something or someone you get stuck to, it has nothing to with anything racial.

    DICTIONARY:

    "something from which it is nearly impossible to extricate oneself"

    god I'm so sick of stupid threads like this


    Tar Baby has often been used in a racially pejorative way. For you to state it has "nothing to do with anything racial" is an awfully big claim. Best not to use that expression at all. I'm not going to accuse the congressman of any ill intent in using that expression but to deny like you have just means you need to get your head out of the sand.




    NO, look at the dictionary, look at what it means. Do you have any evidence that this was said in a racially intended way? NO. It's bullocks.

    So yes, this has NOTHING to do with anything racial. Investigating the etymology is stupid, it obviously has no connection anymore.


    Can't you freakin' read? I specifically stated that I was not going to accuse the congressman of any ill intent. Also, I basically said I feel expressions like that should simply be retired from our lexicon. The Brits used a similar expression in Colonial India, "touched with the tar brush". It is seldom heard today.


    The point is that this whole thread was meant to be a witch hunt. There was no racial connotation in the comment made by the congressman.
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    Aug 03, 2011 2:08 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    mke_bt said
    mocktwinkie said
    mke_bt said
    mocktwinkie saidYou idiots, a tar baby is something or someone you get stuck to, it has nothing to with anything racial.

    DICTIONARY:

    "something from which it is nearly impossible to extricate oneself"

    god I'm so sick of stupid threads like this


    Tar Baby has often been used in a racially pejorative way. For you to state it has "nothing to do with anything racial" is an awfully big claim. Best not to use that expression at all. I'm not going to accuse the congressman of any ill intent in using that expression but to deny like you have just means you need to get your head out of the sand.




    NO, look at the dictionary, look at what it means. Do you have any evidence that this was said in a racially intended way? NO. It's bullocks.

    So yes, this has NOTHING to do with anything racial. Investigating the etymology is stupid, it obviously has no connection anymore.


    Can't you freakin' read? I specifically stated that I was not going to accuse the congressman of any ill intent. Also, I basically said I feel expressions like that should simply be retired from our lexicon. The Brits used a similar expression in Colonial India, "touched with the tar brush". It is seldom heard today.


    The point is that this whole thread was meant to be a witch hunt. There was no racial connotation in the comment made by the congressman.


    It's not a witch hunt. By definition of "fag" is a bunch of sticks or a cigarette, but we all know what it also means.
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    Aug 03, 2011 4:10 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    mke_bt said
    mocktwinkie said
    mke_bt said
    mocktwinkie saidYou idiots, a tar baby is something or someone you get stuck to, it has nothing to with anything racial.

    DICTIONARY:

    "something from which it is nearly impossible to extricate oneself"

    god I'm so sick of stupid threads like this


    Tar Baby has often been used in a racially pejorative way. For you to state it has "nothing to do with anything racial" is an awfully big claim. Best not to use that expression at all. I'm not going to accuse the congressman of any ill intent in using that expression but to deny like you have just means you need to get your head out of the sand.




    NO, look at the dictionary, look at what it means. Do you have any evidence that this was said in a racially intended way? NO. It's bullocks.

    So yes, this has NOTHING to do with anything racial. Investigating the etymology is stupid, it obviously has no connection anymore.


    Can't you freakin' read? I specifically stated that I was not going to accuse the congressman of any ill intent. Also, I basically said I feel expressions like that should simply be retired from our lexicon. The Brits used a similar expression in Colonial India, "touched with the tar brush". It is seldom heard today.


    The point is that this whole thread was meant to be a witch hunt. There was no racial connotation in the comment made by the congressman.


    You've proven time and time again that you are ignorant when it comes to anything outside your very narrow minded world view (like your comments on multiculturalism)

    [url]http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tar%20baby[/url]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_baby
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    Aug 03, 2011 5:21 AM GMT
    As usual with these intelligence-draining threads:

    White Guy says something disagreeable to liberals: is a racist and probably has a sock account on stormfront.org

    Black Guy says something disagreeable to liberals: is a race traitor and an Uncle Tom.

    Why can't it be that:

    "Congressman Schmuckaluck uses questionably inappropriate language",

    and

    "Clarence Thomas is a conservative jurist with opinions at odds with liberals"...

    But that wouldn't be half as entertaining as being able to trot out the race card, or this lovely, clever little GIF:

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    alphatrigger saidAs usual with these intelligence-draining threads:

    White Guy says something disagreeable to liberals: is a racist and probably has a sock account on stormfront.org

    Black Guy says something disagreeable to liberals: is a race traitor and an Uncle Tom.

    Why can't it be that:

    "Congressman Schmuckaluck uses questionably inappropriate language",

    and

    "Clarence Thomas is a conservative jurist with opinions at odds with liberals"...

    But that wouldn't be half as entertaining as being able to trot out the race card, or this lovely, clever little GIF:

    tumblr_lp9mkc83Ad1qchnn1o1_250.gif






    "Why can't it be" that Repubs just stop saying this kind of shit?
    Then we wouldn't have these threads.

    And your claim that "tar baby" is only "disagreeable to liberals" is bogus.
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    Aug 03, 2011 12:55 PM GMT

    "Although the term's provenance arose in African folklore (e.g., the gum doll Anansi created to trap Mmoatia, the dwarf), some Americans now consider "tar baby" to have negative connotations revolving around negative images of African-Americans.[2]
    The Oxford English Dictionary (but not the print version of its American counterpart) lists "tar baby" as a derogatory term for a black or a Maori.[3]"


    from wikipedia


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    alphatrigger saidAs usual with these intelligence-draining threads:

    White Guy says something disagreeable to liberals: is a racist and probably has a sock account on stormfront.org

    Black Guy says something disagreeable to liberals: is a race traitor and an Uncle Tom.

    Why can't it be that:

    "Congressman Schmuckaluck uses questionably inappropriate language",

    and

    "Clarence Thomas is a conservative jurist with opinions at odds with liberals"...

    But that wouldn't be half as entertaining as being able to trot out the race card, or this lovely, clever little GIF:

    tumblr_lp9mkc83Ad1qchnn1o1_250.gif


    Uncle Tom isn't even a racist phrase.
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    Aug 03, 2011 5:25 PM GMT
    Me thinks liberals will use any excuse to scream "RACIST". Just googling the definition of Tar Baby turned up the following --- and come to think of it, in SOME cases it does fit Obama. Just because Obama happens to be black does not mean the comment was meant to be racist.


    tar ba·by
    Noun: A difficult problem that is only aggravated by attempts to solve it. More »
    Wikipedia - Dictionary.com - Answers.com - Merriam-Webster


    Urban Dictionary: tar baby
    www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tar+baby - CachedA dummy made of tar, which cannot be struck without getting oneself hopelessly stuck to it--from the story "Mr. Rabbit and Mr. Fox" by Joe Harris, ...


    Tar baby - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ...
    www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tar%20baby - something from which it is nearly impossible to extricate oneself.

    tar baby - definition of tar baby by the Free Online Dictionary ...
    www.thefreedictionary.com/tar+baby - A situation or problem from which it is virtually impossible to disentangle oneself. [After "Bre'r Rabbit and the Tar Baby," an Uncle Remus story
  • MusclFurPeX

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    Aug 04, 2011 1:17 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
    Christian73 saidNope. Not even slightly close.

    Right - and here are the reasons they are not close:
    Obama - still liked by the left
    Thomas - hated by the left

    tar baby - most recently spoken by a Republican
    uncle tom - freely used by the left including on RJ at will

    The double standard prevails.


    real jock members arent members of congress

    I still call him the coke can man


    It's very sad that he's on the supreme court and never utters a word....he just votes!

    what a great job! He should have never been confirmed
    Doubt he will make it much longer after all the scandal that he's involved in
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    CuriousJockAZ saidMe thinks liberals will use any excuse to scream "RACIST". Just googling the definition of Tar Baby turned up the following --- and come to think of it, in SOME cases it does fit Obama. Just because Obama happens to be black does not mean the comment was meant to be racist.


    tar ba·by
    Noun: A difficult problem that is only aggravated by attempts to solve it. More »
    Wikipedia - Dictionary.com - Answers.com - Merriam-Webster


    Urban Dictionary: tar baby
    www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tar+baby - CachedA dummy made of tar, which cannot be struck without getting oneself hopelessly stuck to it--from the story "Mr. Rabbit and Mr. Fox" by Joe Harris, ...


    Tar baby - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ...
    www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tar%20baby - something from which it is nearly impossible to extricate oneself.

    tar baby - definition of tar baby by the Free Online Dictionary ...
    www.thefreedictionary.com/tar+baby - A situation or problem from which it is virtually impossible to disentangle oneself. [After "Bre'r Rabbit and the Tar Baby," an Uncle Remus story





    TOTAL BS.

    Curious's comment proves that he's an extremely dishonest person.

    Here is the link to the FULL Urban Dictionary definition of "tar baby":
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tar+baby
    Note that there are multiple definitions of "tar baby", including several that curious deliberately omitted which are too ugly for me to repeat here.
    Read them for yourself and see what a deeply dishonest person curious is - and how he tried to bullshit all of us RJ members with his post.

    Wikipedia also cites the offensive meaning the term has.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_baby