Anti-gay group sends fraudulent ballots to Democrats

  • metta

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    Aug 02, 2011 8:16 AM GMT
    Anti-gay group sends fraudulent ballots to Democrats

    http://www.wisconsingazette.com/breaking-news/anti-gay-group-sends-fraudulent-ballots-to-democrats.html
  • GQjock

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    Aug 02, 2011 11:02 AM GMT
    Ah but you see ..... voter rigging isn't the problem

    It's the NONEXISTENT voter fraud that requires photo ID's and provisional balloting ............... That's the problem icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Aug 02, 2011 11:13 AM GMT
    Somebody please explain to me why this is not mail fraud and prosecutable under federal law.icon_evil.gif
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    Aug 02, 2011 1:16 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidSomebody please explain to me why this is not mail fraud and prosecutable under federal law.icon_evil.gif

    It may be, but it will come too late (the election in 1 week). Even if some front groups eventually suffer a fine (which Koch will cover for them), the election results would not be overturned on this. In fact, election results are almost never invalidated in the US.

    This is the strategy of the Republicans. Use fraud and dirty tricks to win the election first, and worry about minor penalties later. Much later, at the snail's pace at which such issues are handled in the courts.

    And don't forget, the Wisconsin government is now controlled by the Republicans, with radical Governor Scott Walker taking calls and instructions directly from David Koch. So don't expect any action at the State level regarding this. After all, they're the ones doing it, you could hardly expect them to investigate or prosecute themselves over this at the State level for election law violations.

    One can only hope the local Wisconsin news media gives this lots of coverage, and further anger voters against Republicans.
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    Aug 02, 2011 4:52 PM GMT
    Just waiting for the predictable Republican response to come in this thread- digging up some past voter fraud by a Democrat, as if somebody on the other side doing in the past makes it excusable to do it now.
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    Aug 02, 2011 5:10 PM GMT
    and this surprises any one?
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    Aug 02, 2011 5:18 PM GMT
    These are the actions of the good Christian Right making sure their Christian 'principles'/Ideology doesn't get lost to the votes of the bible condemned queers. They tell us god is on their side against evil, so its OK to break the commandment against lying.

    All is fair in religion and politics as long as the outcome is according to their version of 'gods will'. I can hear the christian faithful group of TBaggin christian voters praying for guidance and thanking Jesus for his help against evil, the catholic among them doing two oh hell Mary's, everyone agreeing that all is forgiven and aint it good to have "god on our side". Once their group finishes the prayers the leader tells everyone, OK up and off your knees now, lets get them envelopes stuffed, licked and stamped and in the mail to those Democrats, may god bless our efforts for Jeeeeezuz !!! LOL !!!
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    Aug 02, 2011 7:12 PM GMT
    This shows just how far and how low the Koch's will go, and the kind of shit they're willing to fund in order to try to help elect Repubs.

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    Aug 02, 2011 7:15 PM GMT
    realifedad saidThese are the actions of the good Christian Right making sure their Christian 'principles'/Ideology doesn't get lost to the votes of the bible condemned queers. They tell us god is on their side against evil, so its OK to break the commandment against lying.

    All is fair in religion and politics as long as the outcome is according to their version of 'gods will'. I can hear the christian faithful group of TBaggin christian voters praying for guidance and thanking Jesus for his help against evil, the catholic among them doing two oh hell Mary's, everyone agreeing that all is forgiven and aint it good to have "god on our side". Once their group finishes the prayers the leader tells everyone, OK up and off your knees now, lets get them envelopes stuffed, licked and stamped and in the mail to those Democrats, may god bless our efforts for Jeeeeezuz !!! LOL !!!


    A-MEN!

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    Aug 02, 2011 7:19 PM GMT
    Y'all are just pissed because you know Republicans wouldn't fall for such a trick.
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    Aug 02, 2011 7:21 PM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidY'all are just pissed because you know Republicans wouldn't fall for such a trick.

    So therefore you approve of false absentee ballots and mail fraud, if it benefits the Republicans? You don't condemn these tactics, funded by David Koch?
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    Aug 02, 2011 7:21 PM GMT
    mayBbignow2 said
    Iceblink saidJust waiting for the predictable Republican response to come in this thread- digging up some past voter fraud by a Democrat, as if somebody on the other side doing in the past makes it excusable to do it now.


    Dont hold you breat apparently
    And yes i mean breat



    hebrewman saidand this surprises any one?


    I was


    Voter fraud by Democrats wouldn't be big news.
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    Aug 02, 2011 7:28 PM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidVoter fraud by Democrats wouldn't be big news.

    Examples, please. Other than the manufactured scandal over ACORN. Now known to have been a falsehood, contrived by a right-wing group. Another bit of Republican voter fraud.
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    Aug 02, 2011 7:28 PM GMT
    mayBbignow2 said
    JackNWNJ said

    Voter fraud by Democrats wouldn't be big news.


    I know youre a troll
    but they did speak on that
    thats how the ACORN got in trouble


    No silly, I'm from New Jersey. Our former governor, Brendan Byrne (D) famously quipped, "When I die, bury me in Essex County, cuz that's where I'm registered to vote."

    Hardy har har har.

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    Aug 02, 2011 7:29 PM GMT
    JackNWNJ saidY'all are just pissed because you know Republicans wouldn't fall for such a trick.




    Nobody fell for this trick.
    It was immediately reported.
    Obviously.
    And the election isn't until next Tuesday.
    Plenty of time to spread the word.

    "Y'all are just pissed" because they DIDN'T fall for it.

    And because the people of Wisconsin are pissed at the WI Repub's out of control power grab.
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    Aug 02, 2011 7:30 PM GMT
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    JackNWNJ saidY'all are just pissed because you know Republicans wouldn't fall for such a trick.




    Nobody fell for this trick.
    It was immediately reported.
    Obviously.
    And the election isn't until next Tuesday.
    Plenty of time to spread the word.

    "Y'all are just pissed" because they DIDN'T fall for it.

    And because the people of Wisconsin are pissed at the WI Repub's out of control power grab.


    But Dems are afraid people will fall for it, because people who vote Dem are notoriously ignorant.
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    Aug 02, 2011 7:31 PM GMT
    JackNWNJ said
    rickrick91 said
    JackNWNJ saidY'all are just pissed because you know Republicans wouldn't fall for such a trick.




    Nobody fell for this trick.
    It was immediately reported.
    Obviously.
    And the election isn't until next Tuesday.
    Plenty of time to spread the word.

    "Y'all are just pissed" because they DIDN'T fall for it.

    And because the people of Wisconsin are pissed at the WI Repub's out of control power grab.


    But Dems are afraid people will fall for it, because people who vote Dem are notoriously ignorant.




    LOL!
    There's no proof of that.

    But your posts constantly prove that you're "notoriously ignorant".
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    Aug 02, 2011 7:37 PM GMT
    rickrick91 saidLOL!
    There's no proof of that.

    But your posts constantly prove that you're "notoriously ignorant".

    This JackNWNJ has a goal, in my view, to disrupt a gay site. That much is obvious. I think our best approach is to ignore him. I'm no longer going to reply to him. This isn't debate, it's feeding his goal.

    I hope others here will likewise ignore him. Anything else is a waste of time, and just gives him more of the exposure he wants.

    Unable to answer metta8's OP, his tactic is instead to disrupt & derail it. We've seen that here before.

  • Aug 02, 2011 7:39 PM GMT
    It's nice to see people outside the state taking notice of all of the falsehoods and bullshit going on. I live in Madison, and cannot wait to see (and take part in) the shitstorm that will be Governor Walker's recall.
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    Aug 02, 2011 7:42 PM GMT
    livin_the_life saidIt's nice to see people outside the state taking notice of all of the falsehoods and bullshit going on. I live in Madison, and cannot wait to see (and take part in) the shitstorm that will be Governor Walker's recall.

    But the rest of us don't vote in your State. How much is this Republican voter fraud, and other illegalities, being given coverage in Wisconsin? Are the voters there aware of it? Madison is one thing, the rest of the State quite another.

  • Aug 02, 2011 7:50 PM GMT
    I don't know. I just read about it via facebook. I'm not the best person to ask as I live in the capital, all of which hates Walkers guts and had little to do with him getting elected, and I'm a college student and sorta live in a bubble. I'm sure it'll be covered locally here, but not so sure in rural areas.

    Quite honestly, every week the Repubs are pulling bullshit moves like rezoning in their favor (though I've heard this is bipartisan), passing the voter ID bill on the basis of non-existent fraud and simultaneously closing DMVs in democratic areas while extending hours in Repub ones in order to issue more IDs, using deceased citizens signatures, running fake democrats, etc. Oh, and Prosser apparently got angry and put another justice in a chokehold. I think that characterizes the Republican party's general professionalism quite nicely. If we can't cheat and lie our way to the top, we'll just chokehold society.

    Don't get me started on all of the horrible bills they are attempting to pass either. Enjoy clean water? Naw, we don't need to mandate purification of it. Recycling? No thanks.

    And yes, this is a bit of a rant. I apologize, but I also feel helpless and outraged by our current administration.
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    Aug 02, 2011 8:17 PM GMT
    Let's be realistic. It's what politicians do, regardless of affiliation.
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    Aug 02, 2011 8:21 PM GMT
    Gaymerboy saidLet's be realistic. It's what politicians do, regardless of affiliation.




    Really?
    When has an anti-gay group sent out fake ballots to Republicans to try to steal their votes?
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    Aug 02, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
    I mean in general. Both sides have their nasties.
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    Aug 02, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
    livin_the_life saidIt's nice to see people outside the state taking notice of all of the falsehoods and bullshit going on. I live in Madison, and cannot wait to see (and take part in) the shitstorm that will be Governor Walker's recall.




    January 2012 Walker will be eligible for recall.
    Planning for the recall is already well underway.