Mob beatings at WI State Fair

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    Aug 05, 2011 4:00 PM GMT
    Wow, certainly glad I wasn't there last night...that's where they have pridefest and it's usually relatively safe. Hundreds of people, mostly kids, just randomly beating people and other kids up, yanking people out of their cars, pulling them off of their bicycles and motorcycles and kicking and punching them in the face for no reason.

    http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/126825018.html

    EDIT: It was brought to my attention that I got mixed up as to which location this occurred. Pridefest is held at Maier Festival Park ("Summerfest Grounds"), not the Fairgrounds where this happened.
  • Latenight30

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    Aug 05, 2011 4:53 PM GMT
    I am so tired of this in our country. I can't eat my lunch thinking about this kind of behavior. And as I read the article till I can't stomach anymore I see "No Arrests Have Been Made."
    WTF? Really 100's of unruly and you can't get 1 person, not 1?
    It's like here in Atlanta 30 some cars get broken into, the pick up 2 out of 5 people and charge them with 4 counts of something.
    The ratios just aren't working out here.
    These kids, or animals or whatever motivates them, Can't be REHABILITATED! It's not work the time or money.
    Lock them up, fucking forget about them, cause they don't care about anyone else why should anyone care about them!
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    Aug 05, 2011 5:07 PM GMT
    Latenight30 saidI am so tired of this in our country. I can't eat my lunch thinking about this kind of behavior. And as I read the article till I can't stomach anymore I see "No Arrests Have Been Made."
    WTF? Really 100's of unruly and you can't get 1 person, not 1?
    It's like here in Atlanta 30 some cars get broken into, the pick up 2 out of 5 people and charge them with 4 counts of something.
    The ratios just aren't working out here.
    These kids, or animals or whatever motivates them, Can't be REHABILITATED! It's not work the time or money.
    Lock them up, fucking forget about them, cause they don't care about anyone else why should anyone care about them!

    I wonder how many people say it's not really all their fault, but society's fault.
  • Latenight30

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    Aug 05, 2011 5:15 PM GMT
    mayBbignow2 saidQuite a few racists got to it

    Completely glossing over the screaming girl



    Latenight30 said
    These kids, or animals or whatever motivates them, Can't be REHABILITATED! It's not work the time or money.
    Lock them up, fucking forget about them, cause they don't care about anyone else why should anyone care about them!


    How they cannot be rehabilitated
    or are you well versed in criminal rehabilitation programs?
    Plus locking them up costs money


    It absolutely makes no sense for a mob to go to fair and start attacking people.


    Black white green purple, don't give a damn. You act like this in a mob mentality, catching people as they are trapped and funneled out of gates, you are pure evil. It's not some Random act. They laid in wait for the crowds to leave.
    I know that rehabilitation, or what they are trying now doesn't work!
  • jock_1

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    Aug 05, 2011 8:34 PM GMT
    Just to clarify what happened because I live here and was at the fair last night.

    This was not a random act. This was a racist mob act by some 200-300 young, mostly male african americans in where they target and beat up white people. This is all too common in Milwaukee lately as on July 3rd it happend at a fire works party at a park by the lakefront in which 100 black youths wilded through a park beating up white people. Also completely looted a gas station. A few years ago mobs of black youth beat up people attending Greek fest which prompted the organizers to move and almost cancel the event. Black youth wilding happened at a mall last winter in which they were running through the parking lots and beating up white people.


    What happened at our state fair is not unlike what happened at the iowa state fair where blacks proclaimed it "beat whitey night" or in chicago where the lakefront has had several wilding episodes buy blacks youths.


    It all started in the midway where groups were standing around causing trouble and some fights started. police tried to stop and move the crowds and as they did the blacks began wilding, pushing and punching people as they ran through the crowds, even knocking over stands and stealing carnival game prizes. eventually they moved outside of the fair grounds but continued the rampage as they continued to target white people. punching, kicking people. vandalizing cars ect.

    It does not make a white person racist for telling the truth about what happened but the race card will come out for those who are too critical or say anything negative about the trash in our city. What is so sad is there is no out cry from the black leaders or community in our city. This is a powder keg waiting to explode here and i fear when the concealed carry law goes into effect next year we will have a true race riot on our hands.
  • dannyboy1101

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    Aug 05, 2011 8:42 PM GMT
    When mob attacks in Chicago were going on and people said similar comments such as all the attackers were black youth, it was turned into a "racist" circus. This sort of large scale event I'm sad to say should be automatically equipped with a trailer of stun guns, tazers and tear gas. Doing nothing is condoning such behavior and only encourages more. We shall see if market days is as bad as fourth of July.
  • dancedancekj

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    Aug 05, 2011 8:50 PM GMT
    It'd be just as awful if any other ethnic group did it. But why? What is the motivation behind it? And why single out white people?
  • BIG_N_TALL

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    Aug 05, 2011 8:50 PM GMT
    This is not shocking to me at all.
  • jock_1

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    Aug 05, 2011 8:51 PM GMT
    Unfortunately a crack down by police and city leaders will only bring out the race card as it will be deemed that they are picking on and targeting blacks. Its a no win situation for the city. The only way it will be solved is by the black community itself. Whites cannot solve a black problem.

    We do have a black sherrif (David Clarke) who has spoken out but he is refferd to as being and acting white by blacks in our city.
  • Neurons

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    Aug 05, 2011 9:40 PM GMT
    That's fucking horrible.
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    Aug 05, 2011 9:42 PM GMT
    Midwesterners got into some bad corn? icon_rolleyes.gif
  • conservativej...

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    Aug 05, 2011 9:45 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWow, certainly glad I wasn't there last night...that's where they have pridefest and it's usually relatively safe. Hundreds of people, mostly kids, just randomly beating people and other kids up, yanking people out of their cars, pulling them off of their bicycles and motorcycles and kicking and punching them in the face for no reason.

    http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/126825018.html


    Seems to be the new norm.
  • mke_bt

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    Aug 05, 2011 10:06 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWow, certainly glad I wasn't there last night...that's where they have pridefest and it's usually relatively safe. Hundreds of people, mostly kids, just randomly beating people and other kids up, yanking people out of their cars, pulling them off of their bicycles and motorcycles and kicking and punching them in the face for no reason.

    http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/126825018.html


    Oh my God! That is not where Pridefest is held. Pridefest is held at Maier Festival Park along the lakefront. State Fair Park is on Interstate 94 a couple miles west. Exactly how much did you drink at Pridefest?
  • mke_bt

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    Aug 05, 2011 10:15 PM GMT
    The State Police have issued a statement saying it was not racially motivated. It started out within a large group of African-American males and spilled over from there.

    I'm so disgusted that idiots have to spoil what should be a wonderful time and a great opportunity to showcase the wonderful state of Wisconsin. So many youths from around the state have worked all year to present their best livestock, etc. This stupid action is what will be remembered.

    What really upsets me the most is that this portrays such a clear-cut dichotomy between kids who are focused on bettering themselves and their state and those
    who aren't. There are plenty of opportunities for kids in urban Milwaukee to become involved but they would rather take the easy way out. Take and destroy rather than give and build.

    I'm a big old liberal but I draw the line when it comes to behavior like this and have no patience for anyone who makes excuses.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 05, 2011 10:27 PM GMT
    You think we've made progress in this country and then you hear about these kinds of events. Pretty damn pathetic, you wonder why the hell!
    Embarassing for the state. Very sad.
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    Aug 05, 2011 11:27 PM GMT
    mke_bt said
    mocktwinkie saidWow, certainly glad I wasn't there last night...that's where they have pridefest and it's usually relatively safe. Hundreds of people, mostly kids, just randomly beating people and other kids up, yanking people out of their cars, pulling them off of their bicycles and motorcycles and kicking and punching them in the face for no reason.

    http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/126825018.html


    Oh my God! That is not where Pridefest is held. Pridefest is held at Maier Festival Park along the lakefront. State Fair Park is on Interstate 94 a couple miles west. Exactly how much did you drink at Pridefest?


    Actually you're right, I got that totally mixed up. I've only been to those fairgrounds once and I forgot they existed and assumed it was the lakefront festival park.
  • creature

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    Aug 06, 2011 9:00 AM GMT
    jock_1 saidWhat is so sad is there is no out cry from the black leaders or community in our city.


    Blacks are not monolithic.

    Expecting blacks to make a public appearance before the cameras or write to local papers to express their condemnation for you to know how blacks in your community feel about the incidents exposes you as having a vey frigid understanding about race and people.

    Unless you have the belief that blacks in general, or blacks in Wisconsin, hold the same opinion on this matter, then there is no reason not to suspect that a law-abbiding black person frowns upon what is going on.

    This is not a black problem as you suggested unless you believe these actions are intrinsically tied to the black race.

    This is not a problem to be resolved by the "black community," but by anyone who gives a damn about the safety and welfare in their community. Pinning the responsibility of handling this problem on blacks in general is foolish.

    In case you don't know this about blacks... We don't know each other.
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    creature said
    jock_1 saidWhat is so sad is there is no out cry from the black leaders or community in our city.


    Blacks are not monolithic.

    Expecting blacks to make a public appearance before the cameras or write to local papers to express their condemnation for you to know how blacks in your community feel about the incidents exposes you as having a vey frigid understanding about race and people.

    Unless you have the belief that blacks in general, or blacks in Wisconsin, hold the same opinion on this matter, then there is no reason not to suspect that a law-abbiding black person frowns upon what is going on.

    This is not a black problem as you suggested unless you believe these actions are intrinsically tied to the black race.

    This is not a problem to be resolved by the "black community," but by anyone who gives a damn about the safety and welfare in their community. Pinning the responsibility of handling this problem on blacks in general is foolish.

    In case you don't know this about blacks... We don't know each other.


    Well kudos for recognizing that actions by people of a particular race are not intrinsically tied to other people of that race --- except of course when it comes to those goddam white people who deserve intense guilt for not only minor current events but events that occurred under a completely different generation!

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    mocktwinkie saidWow, certainly glad I wasn't there last night...that's where they have pridefest and it's usually relatively safe. Hundreds of people, mostly kids, just randomly beating people and other kids up, yanking people out of their cars, pulling them off of their bicycles and motorcycles and kicking and punching them in the face for no reason.

    http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/126825018.html


    Seems to be the new norm.


    The answer is simple.

    Lock and load with rubber bullets, salt shot, and tear gas...

    And if they start pulling out deadly weapons, then switch to live ammo, and start mowing down these terrorists like the vile, rabid dogs they are.

    And it doesn't matter worth a damn what skin colour they are.

    A public menace like this needs to be dealt with swiftly and mercilessly, to make an example of them.
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    Aug 06, 2011 2:51 PM GMT
    Clearly the education system has failed.

    I'll say it again: THIS COUNTRY IS FUCKED (and not in a good way).
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    Aug 06, 2011 3:19 PM GMT
    The same thing has been happening in Philly for a few weeks now. No one really has an idea about what to do. Sadly my friends that are social workers saw this coming months ago. Cuts to school programs and the fact that the economic crisis affected blacks at a disproportionality high rate.

    Creature kind of said everything else I wanted to say though :/
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    Aug 06, 2011 3:21 PM GMT
    creature said
    jock_1 saidWhat is so sad is there is no out cry from the black leaders or community in our city.


    Blacks are not monolithic.

    Expecting blacks to make a public appearance before the cameras or write to local papers to express their condemnation for you to know how blacks in your community feel about the incidents exposes you as having a vey frigid understanding about race and people.

    Unless you have the belief that blacks in general, or blacks in Wisconsin, hold the same opinion on this matter, then there is no reason not to suspect that a law-abbiding black person frowns upon what is going on.

    This is not a black problem as you suggested unless you believe these actions are intrinsically tied to the black race.

    This is not a problem to be resolved by the "black community," but by anyone who gives a damn about the safety and welfare in their community. Pinning the responsibility of handling this problem on blacks in general is foolish.

    In case you don't know this about blacks... We don't know each other.


    Have you not read all my posts on this topic? Its is a black youth problem as it has happened many times before which resulted in closing of 2 shopping malls, a city festival and some community events where law abiding families go to have a good time, not to be targets for angry black youth in our community.

    If this were to happen where whites did this to blacks you can bet the oucry form so-called black leaders in our community and across the country....al sharpton and jessie jackson would be frint and center here to be seen. So yes black leaders should step up and condem these acts publicly.
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    Aug 06, 2011 3:23 PM GMT
    This is just sad.
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    jock_1 said
    creature said
    jock_1 saidWhat is so sad is there is no out cry from the black leaders or community in our city.


    Blacks are not monolithic.

    Expecting blacks to make a public appearance before the cameras or write to local papers to express their condemnation for you to know how blacks in your community feel about the incidents exposes you as having a vey frigid understanding about race and people.

    Unless you have the belief that blacks in general, or blacks in Wisconsin, hold the same opinion on this matter, then there is no reason not to suspect that a law-abbiding black person frowns upon what is going on.

    This is not a black problem as you suggested unless you believe these actions are intrinsically tied to the black race.

    This is not a problem to be resolved by the "black community," but by anyone who gives a damn about the safety and welfare in their community. Pinning the responsibility of handling this problem on blacks in general is foolish.

    In case you don't know this about blacks... We don't know each other.


    Have you not read all my posts on this topic? Its is a black youth problem as it has happened many times before which resulted in closing of 2 shopping malls, a city festival and some community events where law abiding families go to have a good time, not to be targets for angry black youth in our community.

    If this were to happen where whites did this to blacks you can bet the oucry form so-called black leaders in our community and across the country....al sharpton and jessie jackson would be frint and center here to be seen. So yes black leaders should step up and condem these acts publicly.


    I don't want to be "that" guy. But what's up with white people thinking Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson are actually liked in the black community? As far as I can tell the only people who listen to a word they say are people in the media. They are like the Tyler Perry of politics for me (just because it's black doesn't mean I'm not going to acknowledge how terrible it is)
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    Aug 06, 2011 3:28 PM GMT
    I don't want to be "that" guy. But what's up with white people thinking Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson are actually liked in the black community? As far as I can tell the only people who listen to a word they say are people in the media. They are like the Tyler Perry of politics for me (just because it's black doesn't mean I'm not going to acknowledge how terrible it is) .


    Those 2 never let a good crisis go to waste