Tipping for Tap Water at a Bar/Club?

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    Aug 06, 2011 5:33 PM GMT
    I'm new to this whole "scene" and don't drink alcohol at all. I do like to dance though, so I'll go downtown, get a nice 1-1.5 hr aerobic dance workout (till I'm dripping/soaked...I sweat a lot) at the club, and then go to the bartender, ask for water, and then I go.

    I have had two friends tell me that I should be tipping the bartender $1 for the water.

    Is this something I have to do each time I have a water there every night? I always thought water was free. Yea, I'm cheap, but I'm on a restricted income and this is a free night otherwise (I park super far away and walk). I am really not there to hit on bartenders and the club is too loud to really meet other guys, assuming they're even sober, as I have read the other posts on tipping assume that you're there to hit on the bartenders. I always just assumed they're working and off limits or straight (often hotter than the guys there, unfortunately).

    I tipped for the first time last night, but I've gone to this place probably 6-7 times before without tipping for a glass of water.

    So, thoughts?
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    Aug 06, 2011 6:18 PM GMT
    If you are asking for them to take their time to get you the water, then you tip for the service. It is a business and you are already in there not bringing them any income other than the cover charge you paid and so tipping to help pay the waiter/bartender is the least you can do. In many places, minimum wage for tipped employees is much less than regular minimum wage.
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    Aug 06, 2011 6:20 PM GMT
    I tip 1-2 bucks for water because it usually means that when that bartender sees me vying for space along with a bunch of others looking to order a drink, he will get the next water up to me quickly. It's a small investment to make for priority service.
  • mybud

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    Aug 06, 2011 6:47 PM GMT
    You always tip for any drink service given by the bartender....
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    Aug 06, 2011 6:56 PM GMT
    I concur with all the above - he's working so you ought to tip him.
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    Aug 06, 2011 6:59 PM GMT
    LOL. Tipping does not mean you want to bone them. It's customary to tip a buck when buying drinks. You tip a little more to show them your appreciation of their service, and next time around they'll try to serve you before the low tippers.

    For water, I think it depends on the bartender. Some don't care, and some do. But if you're going to the same club all the time, then yes. Tip. Because the next time he sees you, he just might have your water ready before you even walk up to the bar and ask.
  • hyperionx

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    Aug 06, 2011 7:02 PM GMT
    You don't drink?
    Yes, tips are good. They work for less than minimum wage in most areas.
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    Aug 06, 2011 7:14 PM GMT
    bluey2223 saidI'm new to this whole "scene" and don't drink alcohol at all. I do like to dance though, so I'll go downtown, get a nice 1-1.5 hr aerobic dance workout (till I'm dripping/soaked...I sweat a lot) at the club, and then go to the bartender, ask for water, and then I go.

    I have had two friends tell me that I should be tipping the bartender $1 for the water.

    Is this something I have to do each time I have a water there every night? I always thought water was free. Yea, I'm cheap, but I'm on a restricted income and this is a free night otherwise (I park super far away and walk). I am really not there to hit on bartenders and the club is too loud to really meet other guys, assuming they're even sober, as I have read the other posts on tipping assume that you're there to hit on the bartenders. I always just assumed they're working and off limits or straight (often hotter than the guys there, unfortunately).

    I tipped for the first time last night, but I've gone to this place probably 6-7 times before without tipping for a glass of water.

    So, thoughts?


    Around my way, water isn't free at the bar. You have to buy a bottle. Tipping for anything is bullshit, but I do it anyway.
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    Aug 06, 2011 7:25 PM GMT
    Personally I'd rather they charge me a cover charge, which they don't, and tipping be voluntary rather than some sort of unwritten rule that those of us who have abstaining parents/family/friends never were taught. So, I'm sure they think I'm rude. That's not fair. What do internationals do? I'm sure most of them drink, but if there's a rule, we should know about it. It's water...it's really them being hospitable. It's not like it's a bottle of water (which is the stupidest thing for the environment people have done in the past century).
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    Aug 06, 2011 7:31 PM GMT
    bluey2223 saidPersonally I'd rather they charge me a cover charge, which they don't, and tipping be voluntary rather than some sort of unwritten rule that those of us who have abstaining parents/family/friends never were taught. So, I'm sure they think I'm rude. That's not fair. What do internationals do? I'm sure most of them drink, but if there's a rule, we should know about it. It's water...it's really them being hospitable. It's not like it's a bottle of water (which is the stupidest thing for the environment people have done in the past century).


    Sorry, but the bar is a business. They survive by making money. You are simply taking up space and bringing absolutely no income. I understand why some places have a two drink minimum. Being hospitable is something a business does for it's customers and really you are not one of their customers if you are not paying anything.
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    Aug 06, 2011 7:32 PM GMT
    I'm not used to tipping at all back home. Apparently it's nice to do that over here icon_smile.gif It helps the waiters out and rewards them for their service.
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    Aug 06, 2011 7:34 PM GMT
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    bluey2223 saidPersonally I'd rather they charge me a cover charge, which they don't, and tipping be voluntary rather than some sort of unwritten rule that those of us who have abstaining parents/family/friends never were taught. So, I'm sure they think I'm rude. That's not fair. What do internationals do? I'm sure most of them drink, but if there's a rule, we should know about it. It's water...it's really them being hospitable. It's not like it's a bottle of water (which is the stupidest thing for the environment people have done in the past century).


    Sorry, but the bar is a business. They survive by making money. You are simply taking up space and bringing absolutely no income. I understand why some places have a two drink minimum. Being hospitable is something a business does for it's customers and really you are not one of their customers if you are not paying anything.


    I disagree. I'm one of the better looking people at the club and serve as free eye candy as a dancer, which is what I do for fun and for free.
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    Aug 06, 2011 7:41 PM GMT
    Americans are weird, tipping for water, u lot take it to extreme. As I always say, why dont bartenders just get a proper wage, such a weird custom.
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    Aug 06, 2011 7:44 PM GMT
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    Iceblink said
    bluey2223 saidPersonally I'd rather they charge me a cover charge, which they don't, and tipping be voluntary rather than some sort of unwritten rule that those of us who have abstaining parents/family/friends never were taught. So, I'm sure they think I'm rude. That's not fair. What do internationals do? I'm sure most of them drink, but if there's a rule, we should know about it. It's water...it's really them being hospitable. It's not like it's a bottle of water (which is the stupidest thing for the environment people have done in the past century).


    Sorry, but the bar is a business. They survive by making money. You are simply taking up space and bringing absolutely no income. I understand why some places have a two drink minimum. Being hospitable is something a business does for it's customers and really you are not one of their customers if you are not paying anything.


    I disagree. I'm one of the better looking people at the club and serve as free eye candy as a dancer, which is what I do for fun and for free.


    Bluey2223 you are so adorable and cuddleable. If I'd see you in NYC I would be happy to teach you a lot of things.
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    Aug 06, 2011 7:51 PM GMT
    Is customary to tip him/her $1 or $2. I don't drink either and when I go out with my friends I make sure to pass the bartender a few bucks for his/her trouble. Normally in return they get me whatever juice/water I wanted along wth their numbers too but that's another story.icon_biggrin.gif
  • HndsmKansan

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    Aug 06, 2011 7:52 PM GMT
    When I'm in a local bar.... and I ask for water, I usually don't tip, but since its free and they are providing a service, I should probably consider it.
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    Aug 06, 2011 7:53 PM GMT
    bluey2223 saidPersonally I'd rather they charge me a cover charge, which they don't, and tipping be voluntary rather than some sort of unwritten rule that those of us who have abstaining parents/family/friends never were taught. So, I'm sure they think I'm rude. That's not fair. What do internationals do? I'm sure most of them drink, but if there's a rule, we should know about it. It's water...it's really them being hospitable. It's not like it's a bottle of water (which is the stupidest thing for the environment people have done in the past century).


    You are not tipping because of the contents of the glass. Wether it is water or alcohol is irrelevant as is abstinent friends and family.

    You are tipping because you are engaging the bartender to perform his services which he is compensated for with a nominal hourly rate (signicantly less than minimum wage) to be supplemented with tips.

    TIPS - is an acronym for To Insure Proper Service. If you are ignored by the bartender or he is rude in any way - don't tip. You are not required. But if he is giving you adequate service then you should honor your part of the tacit, non-verbal contract that every man old enough to get into a bar should be aware of.
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    Aug 06, 2011 7:58 PM GMT
    Bluey, you're new to the scene, but you're already convinced you're offering a public service by dancing shirtless in a club?

    OK, look at this way. Tip your server or they'll look for a job at a higher-paying club, and you'll get served water by a sweaty fat chick.
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    Aug 06, 2011 8:02 PM GMT
    I don't think you need to tip. When I was a waiter bartender I wouldn't expect it. Its part of there job to make sure nobody gets too drunk. You can sue the bartender if you are too drunk and hurt yourself. It happens trust me. I don't tip on water its the job to get it...period. Yes they make less then MIN wage but this is getting ridiculous. As a waiter I can pull over 100 bucks in tips in 3 hours. Though at better places it is much huger like 300 bucks. Tipping starts to come ridiculous. If you like the server tip them if your don't don't.
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    Aug 06, 2011 8:08 PM GMT
    ddices saidI don't think you need to tip. When I was a waiter bartender I wouldn't expect it. Its part of there job to make sure nobody gets too drunk. You can sue the bartender if you are too drunk and hurt yourself. It happens trust me. I don't tip on water its the job to get it...period. Yes they make less then MIN wage but this is getting ridiculous. As a waiter I can pull over 100 bucks in tips in 3 hours. Though at better places it is much huger like 300 bucks. Tipping starts to come ridiculous. If you like the server tip them if your don't don't.


    I agree with you to some extend. If the service is bad don't waste your money. It's not about who's better looking at the club or who isn't. It's about the service provided.
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    Aug 06, 2011 8:10 PM GMT
    bluey2223 said
    Iceblink said
    bluey2223 saidPersonally I'd rather they charge me a cover charge, which they don't, and tipping be voluntary rather than some sort of unwritten rule that those of us who have abstaining parents/family/friends never were taught. So, I'm sure they think I'm rude. That's not fair. What do internationals do? I'm sure most of them drink, but if there's a rule, we should know about it. It's water...it's really them being hospitable. It's not like it's a bottle of water (which is the stupidest thing for the environment people have done in the past century).


    Sorry, but the bar is a business. They survive by making money. You are simply taking up space and bringing absolutely no income. I understand why some places have a two drink minimum. Being hospitable is something a business does for it's customers and really you are not one of their customers if you are not paying anything.


    I disagree. I'm one of the better looking people at the club and serve as free eye candy as a dancer, which is what I do for fun and for free.


    Sorry, but you seem cheap and egotistical, it's only $1 a water, it's not gonna kill you.
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    Aug 06, 2011 8:16 PM GMT
    I never said I was shirtless.

    I never said I sincerely feel I am providing a service to the club by being there. I'm just rebutting the entitlement for tipping for TAP WATER, so I responded with an equally bitchy comment to refute the assertion that I'm bad for business and a waste of space on a Friday night.

    Everyone read that way too literally.
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    Aug 06, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
    The last time I asked for water at a club I got charged 5 bucks for an 8 oz mini bottle of water from Costco. Fucking thieves.
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    Aug 06, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
    bluey2223 saidI never said I was shirtless.

    I never said I sincerely feel I am providing a service to the club by being there. I'm just rebutting the entitlement for tipping for TAP WATER, so I responded with an equally bitchy comment to refute the assertion that I'm bad for business and a waste of space on a Friday night.

    Everyone read that way too literally.


    Not shirtless? Well that does substantially limit the effectiveness of eye candy.
    If you're not buying anything there, they'll surely think of you as taking up space in a negative way. (After all you did ask for our opinions.)
    We still like you though, jests and all.
  • danisnotstr8

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    Aug 06, 2011 8:27 PM GMT
    I bartended for 8 years and I just might go back to it. The money-- the TIPS- were great.

    I'll say this though:
    I don't expect a tip from anyone. And the guy who orders a glass of water-- well, he's probably here with other people who are tipping for the great cocktail I made them. If you come to my bar and drink water all night and don't tip me, I might be a little bit irked, but that's what my $3.10/hr is for. If you said "hey man, I'm in school, I'll get you back later" or "hey, I am strapped right now" then I'd probably give you a free bottle of water... or even mix you a free drink and send you on your way with a smile.

    Yes, it's a business. But it's a social atmosphere... and in that sense, I want YOU to be happy and comfortable so that your FRIENDS with the cash will feel good about leaving me a tip.