Make a move to Australia?

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    Aug 09, 2011 12:56 AM GMT
    So i have just turned 20, i have a very elaborate sense of adventure, and I am currently studying my 2nd year as a Truck & Coach technician. I have a huge passion for my trade, which is very uncommon these days for the younger generation. So I was just wondering if & how a big move from Ottawa Ontario to Sydney Australia would impact my life. Would i be able to continue in my trade as a mechanic, would I be living the same lifestyle, is being gay in Australia Accepted as well as it is in Canada, Most importantly will i enjoy this experience? I know anything is possible as long as the mind is set to this goal, but i would like some opinions/ advice from the wiser and more experience men out there icon_smile.gif. If you have anything other that you would like to inform me with, Enlighten me please icon_biggrin.gif,

    thanks again RJ members.
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    Aug 09, 2011 1:10 AM GMT
    Why not just get the 1-year travel & work visa for Australia to give it a try?

    My experience of Sydney was pretty good (originally from Montreal here), that being said like any place there are always lots of "little things" that are hard to not-notice. I liked Sydney, but it unfortunately didn't trump Montreal for me.

    I personally find that it's the people you meet that make a place good, so if you're outgoing and good at quickly making new friends, you probably won't have a problem with the transition.
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    Aug 09, 2011 1:53 AM GMT
    Bale02 saidWhy not just get the 1-year travel & work visa for Australia to give it a try?

    My experience of Sydney was pretty good (originally from Montreal here), that being said like any place there are always lots of "little things" that are hard to not-notice. I liked Sydney, but it unfortunately didn't trump Montreal for me.

    I personally find that it's the people you meet that make a place good, so if you're outgoing and good at quickly making new friends, you probably won't have a problem with the transition.


    Would you know if with the travel and work Visa would I be able to continue my trade that i enjoy, or would i most likely have to sacrifice for a simpler more common job? i will do more research on this idea for myself, because i am very interested, but all the little info from people can help me piece together a great decision, knowledge is keen to this type of decision
  • shred_thegnar

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    Aug 09, 2011 1:58 AM GMT
    no it is not as accepted as it is here. just look at the news to see evidence of so.
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    Aug 09, 2011 2:09 AM GMT
    I have to wholeheartedly agree with all who've just said that Australia ain't all that cracked-up it is to have been said about being "open" to gay guys like us - the government often debates about it very discreetly like some nasty secret, while the media tends to debate about a lot of misconceptions (e.g. adoptions, gay rights, gay bashings, etc.) the public very much has about LGBT culture in general. Gay life is very much concentrated in one obvious spot - I live in Sydney, and the only place people identify as being a gay neighbourhood is all along the main Oxford Street city thoroughfare. Same goes for all other big cities in Australia, and since the population numbers less than 23 million, that isnt saying much about chances of hooking up/dating/meeting up with like-minded others icon_sad.gif

    But don't worry about these demographics, what Australia lacks in being progressive towards gay and lesbians, the active sports culture, freaking amazing weather and scenery and food like you've never had before makes it all up. Besides from that, take your time and enjoy the city, Sydney as I know it is how I'd imagine New York in the Southern Hemisphere, and that's how cool I find it to be ;)
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    Aug 09, 2011 2:10 AM GMT
    From all the Aussies I've met who come to work in Vancouver, you get paid a shitload more in Australia to do any given job. Now the Australian dollar is worth more too, so it can't be a bad choice economically. I'm also very doubtful that gays aren't as well accepted as they are in Canada. Sydney has the reputation of being a world gay mecca. Outside the top Canadian urban centres, being gay is downright scary. I would suspect it's the same in Australia.
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    Aug 09, 2011 2:19 AM GMT
    kandsk saidFrom all the Aussies I've met who come to work in Vancouver, you get paid a shitload more in Australia to do any given job. Now the Australian dollar is worth more too, so it can't be a bad choice economically. I'm also very doubtful that gays aren't as well accepted as they are in Canada. Sydney has the reputation of being a world gay mecca. Outside the top Canadian urban centres, being gay is downright scary. I would suspect it's the same in Australia.


    most likely they get paid alot due to the living expenses are hell high there
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    Aug 09, 2011 2:32 AM GMT
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    Bale02 saidWhy not just get the 1-year travel & work visa for Australia to give it a try?

    My experience of Sydney was pretty good (originally from Montreal here), that being said like any place there are always lots of "little things" that are hard to not-notice. I liked Sydney, but it unfortunately didn't trump Montreal for me.

    I personally find that it's the people you meet that make a place good, so if you're outgoing and good at quickly making new friends, you probably won't have a problem with the transition.


    Would you know if with the travel and work Visa would I be able to continue my trade that i enjoy, or would i most likely have to sacrifice for a simpler more common job? i will do more research on this idea for myself, because i am very interested, but all the little info from people can help me piece together a great decision, knowledge is keen to this type of decision


    The travel & work visa lets you get any job...as long as you can find it! Like all jobs, some are easier to find than others. They will obviously notice that you're not Australian so you'll just need to let them know that you're not thinking of quitting after working 2 months.

    In relation to what other posters have said: being gay in Australia is slightly less accepted as it in in Canada, but the difference is pretty small. One main thing I noticed is Australian culture pushes a little more for the macho stereotype, but meh...

    And relative to what Julian and shred-thegnar said: the pay rate is higher, but the cost of living is as well so it all evens out. It's not like you're heading to Oz to make money and bring it back to Canada anyway...
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    Aug 09, 2011 2:40 AM GMT
    Sydney is a very expensive place to live these days. A very fast paced city aswell. There haven't been any gay bashings here in many years. Don't know what you see on the tv over there but 9 out 10 times any news is negative that's why it's not worth watching. You may be better off in qld with the industry your in. I've found most people are pretty cool with whole gay thing as but at the same time with a heavily multicultural society not everyone understands who we are. Give it a go on the 1 year deal andmake up your own mind.
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    Aug 09, 2011 2:43 AM GMT
    Do it! You won't regret expanding your cultural horizons!
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    Aug 09, 2011 4:57 AM GMT
    if you do it avoid Western Australia like the plague, lets just say the people here are easily 60 years behind everywhere else in their views and a portion of the men are still living in the 50s and missed the whole civil rights movement... I f**king hate this place and I've been stuck here for 25 years.
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    Aug 09, 2011 5:41 AM GMT
    What? aussies don't accept gays? hahaha erm, yeah just cause you can't get married don't think your walking down the street with constant harassment.

    Australia is pretty accepting especially as you get closer to the cities and by close I'm about an hour travel outside of sydney, everyone knows I'm gay, no one cares.

    Little story, last week I totally macked on a guy (excuse ma teen phrases) in the middle of a pub with the worst reputation for fights, it's called the mean fiddler... No body gave a flying feck about it although I got a few lots mostly from women.

    Aussies don't care to much about gays.

    Although the poster above me is correct about the other side of australia hahaha but you get that anywhere really!
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    Aug 09, 2011 6:17 AM GMT
    Fact: One rarely ever sees gay men holding hands or other overt displays of gay affection, even in the pinkest Sydney suburb of Darlinghurst.
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    Aug 09, 2011 6:26 AM GMT
    Yeah, just today I walked by a guy trying on a pair of work shoes in a city department store. He took them off and pointed to the 1.5cm heel and said he didn't like the 'fucking faggoty heel'. I mean, you should expect to hear that kind of crap, but it's rare to be harassed or assaulted for being gay.

    Would you have to start your apprenticeship all over again when you got here? Or do you plan on finishing it there? You might then need to apply for a licence. Not sure if we have licences for that kind of work, but these are the sorts of things you need to think about.
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    Sep 03, 2011 4:24 AM GMT
    I've been thinking of doing a similar thing. I wanted to travel the world but I am afraid to do it alone.

    I know people that have been to Australia and had a fantastic time (but they are straight) --- not sure if that helps.

    Whatever you decide, its your life - live it to the fullest!icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 03, 2011 5:55 AM GMT
    I've heard there are various animals and insects in Australia that exist solely to kill humans. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 03, 2011 5:58 AM GMT
    I hope you don't enjoy it completely. Believe me the best time to travel, explore, and have horrible experiences are when you are young and not yet used to the creature comforts. Once you settle down, have a house, establish a routine it is so much harder to go back to sleeping on somebody's couch or throwing a futon mattress on the floor and calling it "minimalist"...do it! You won't regret it.
  • barriehomeboy

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    Sep 03, 2011 6:22 AM GMT
    Australia is as gay friendly as Sudbury or Thunder Bay. I've been to those cities. I would not consider moving to them, or Australia.
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    Sep 03, 2011 6:23 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI'd do it in a heartbeat if I could. Simply to have the experience of experiencing life in another part of the world.

    yeah me too
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    Sep 03, 2011 6:24 AM GMT
    plus, aussie guys are hot as fuck
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    Nov 28, 2015 11:33 AM GMT
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