Here comes war with Iran.

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    May 01, 2008 5:05 PM GMT
    Below is a blog post on AlterNet.org about the plans that the Bush Administration has to start ANOTHER war. This time with Iran. The Bushies have wanted a war with Iran since God knows ... this year their wet dream may come true ... scary stuff.

    "Gates says 2nd carrier in Gulf is ‘reminder’ to Iran"

    Posted by Cliff Schecter, Cliff Schecter's Blog at 3:35 AM on April 30, 2008.

    http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/83943/

    Secretary Gates has some curious ideas as to what constitutes military escalation.

    Nervous? Me?….

    Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Tuesday that sending a second U.S. aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf could serve as a “reminder” to Iran, but he said it’s not an escalation of force.

    No, no, of course it isn’t. We trust Gatesy completely.

    Speaking to reporters after meeting with Mexican leaders, Gates said heightening U.S. criticism of Iran and its support for terror groups is not a signal that the administration is laying the groundwork for a strike against Tehran.

    Just because I’m holding a gun to your head and shaking my fist in your face, why in the world would you think that’s intimidating? I’m just reminding you that you will feel intense pain and might possibly notice severe bruising. If you’re at all concerned that a bullet could find a way into your skull, well, that’s just you being all paranoid and stuff.

    Still, he said Iran continues to back the Taliban in Afghanistan.

    Still, it would be all your fault if the gun went off. Not mine.

    Gates played down the addition of a second carrier to the Gulf, saying that the number of ships there rises and falls continuously. He said he doesn’t expect there to be two carriers there for a long time.

    Don’t think twice about the switchblade I just pulled out of my shoe. The number of weapons I bandy about rises and falls continuously, depending on my mood. I don’t expect there to be a gun and a knife there for long. Just the gun. And my fists. Or maybe the knife and my fists. Decisions, decisions. Gosh, you know me, good ol’ trigger-happy Laffy! Expect the unexpected! Aren’t I the most adorably unpredictable psycho ever?

    Asked if the carrier move went hand in hand with the rising U.S. rhetoric against Iran, Gates said, “I don’t see it as an escalation. I think it could be seen, though, as a reminder.“

    Silly you! I don’t see the gun, knife, and 2 fists as threat! I guess, though, if you really want to split hairs, it could be seen as a reminder… of how I could kill you at any moment.

    Sleep well.
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    May 01, 2008 5:12 PM GMT
    excellent. i'll mix some martinis. icon_confused.gif
  • HndsmKansan

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    May 01, 2008 5:31 PM GMT
    I just can't imagine that even Bush would be so stupid.
    But with his approval rating at 27%, he'd have to create a situation (ala the Iraq argument with weapons of mass destruction) to prove it was necessary. At this stage of his farse... I would go quietly as one of the worst presidents in our history.....icon_mad.gif
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    May 01, 2008 5:48 PM GMT
    He is trying to get away from the Domestic problems in the USA are we all stupid like him? NOOOOOOOOOOOO.
  • BlackJock79

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    May 01, 2008 5:50 PM GMT
    I had a dream last night that I got drafted back into the Air Force.
  • jarhead5536

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    May 01, 2008 5:50 PM GMT
    This is what you get when you elect a born-again whacko fundie who thinks God chose him to be President. He wants to start a regional war in the Middle East because he thinks it will be the Apocalypse that brings on the Second Coming. He is doing the Lord's will by instigating Armegeddon.
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    May 01, 2008 5:53 PM GMT
    None of this has to do with approval rating. Bush etc. has had an eight year agenda and he will do what it takes to complete it. So far it has worked like a charm. People may not like him, but he's gotten nearly everything he wanted and plenty more. He continues to buy enough congressional votes. Social Security is the one anomaly. This administration has only ever been about a few close friends realizing a phenomenal windfall at the expense of millions, both here and in the Middle East. The tax rebates amount to little more than hush money.

    I firmly believe that one "mission" that was "accomplished" was bin Laden's. Our country became more socially conservative (sinners, infidels...tomayto, tomahto), the Saudi's are getting even richer on our oil consumption, the USA is more divided than ever, we are nearly crippled economically, and we are less prepared for another disaster or attack. The whole point was to send the USA into a tailspin and this is exactly what happened.

    So Bush got what he wanted and so did bin Laden. Oh...and Bush forgot to catch bin Laden. Hmm...enemies my ass. One would think they're old business partners, actually.

    Apologies for the tangent.
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    May 01, 2008 5:53 PM GMT
    i'm so completely confounded by politicians... they can't possibly be as stupid and inept as they come across once they've been given time to make a wide array of choices...

    is this simply a case of being so close to a problem that you can't see the wall for the brick?? or maybe they're all wealthy and simply don't give a shit? i don't get it...

    are they truly so completely disconnected from the everyday lives of ordinary people that the only solution they can come up with is yet another war? this ain't wwII - war isn't pulling us out of an economic depression... the instability it causes is dragging us down into one.
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    May 01, 2008 5:54 PM GMT
    Well thank god! It is about time we got into another war to take attention off our military failures elsewhere.
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    May 01, 2008 5:55 PM GMT
    i just snorted water out of my nose... thanks.
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    May 01, 2008 6:57 PM GMT
    Military failures? No offense but wouldn't that be congressional failures. This country has gone to hell. Literally. The U.S. dollar just dropped yet again, and gas is soaring. Not to mention Bush and almost every other "Administrator" has neglected what the U.S. is suppose to even stand for... I believe once, I have my many degrees, I'm getting the hell out of here... That is if I am able to live in this society that long...
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    May 01, 2008 7:18 PM GMT
    This - http://www.newamericancentury.org/index.html - is the reason for what's been going on the past 8 years. The website doesn't contain the original post-Nixon plans. They started with radio stations, then created the mass media corporations, etc. They are the scariest group of evil since the Nazis.

    And it's almost all been going according to plan.
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    May 01, 2008 7:22 PM GMT
    mtbkrguy08 saidMilitary failures? No offense but wouldn't that be congressional failures. This country has gone to hell. Literally. The U.S. dollar just dropped yet again, and gas is soaring. Not to mention Bush and almost every other "Administrator" has neglected what the U.S. is suppose to even stand for... I believe once, I have my many degrees, I'm getting the hell out of here... That is if I am able to live in this society that long...


    I wouldn't blame the economy of Congress, but I was referring to the forgotten war in Afghanistan.

    And, this is just a pet peeve of mine, the US has not literally gone to hell.
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    May 01, 2008 7:35 PM GMT
    The economy on top of many other things here in the great states SUCKS! Anyone that would say something like the U.S. is not literally in hell would be misjudging the truth. With corporations taking up so much of the world these days, we should really be watching our backs. Everyone is in "it" for themselves. Hello? I mean this is not what this country was founded on. I can't believe people sit back and let people and things run over them.

    Money, these days, seems to dominate everything. No one cares about everyone. I mean look at shunning people such as the hopeful presidential candidate, Ron Paul. He has been shunned in the media.

    Do some research before preaching on the nation!
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    May 01, 2008 7:39 PM GMT
    mtbkrguy08 saidAnyone that would say something like the U.S. is not literally in hell would be misjudging the truth.


    No, the US is not literally in hell. If it was literally in hell it would be on fire with red devils poking at us with pitch forks and what not. The US is figuratively in hell.

    But ya, the economy sucks, money runs the game, and all that other stuff you said.
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    May 01, 2008 7:46 PM GMT
    hear, hear! have a martini
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    May 01, 2008 7:49 PM GMT
    you can shake your ass, but please, only stir that martini icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 01, 2008 7:55 PM GMT
    Caveat Emptor: Consider the source. Site like Alternet (or Drudgereport, WorldNetDaily, Common Dreams, Huffingtonpost, Freerepublic, etc) are not the equivalent of CNN and the New York Times. Some of them are like the Weekly World News of the internet.

    Most highly charged political websites are partisan in the extreme and have a decidedly skewed perspective and novel interpretations of "the truth".

    One good example I like to refer to is the ludicrous clamor WorldNetDaily made over a discount Alaska Airlines offered passengers who booked through their gay and lesbian page. The headline on this story was:

    Airline 'discount' charges heterosexual customers more
    10% penalty applied if buyers don't get tickets from 'gay' site
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    May 01, 2008 8:11 PM GMT
    Several years ago friends and I predicted that Bush and his admin. would start up another war close to the end of his final term, where he could possibly declare martial law and remain president for as long as was "necessary." Whatever the reasons for all of this, I hope to God that that never happens.
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    May 01, 2008 8:20 PM GMT
    yogasea saidSeveral years ago friends and I predicted that Bush and his admin. would start up another war close to the end of his final term, where he could possibly declare martial law and remain president for as long as was "necessary." Whatever the reasons for all of this, I hope to God that that never happens.


    martial law...remain president for as long as was "necessary" ...that would never fly ...you can relax
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    May 01, 2008 8:25 PM GMT
    yogasea saidSeveral years ago friends and I predicted that Bush and his admin. would start up another war close to the end of his final term, where he could possibly declare martial law and remain president for as long as was "necessary." Whatever the reasons for all of this, I hope to God that that never happens.

    And where do you get ideas like that? As I mentioned above, there are all sorts of websites that seem to love nothing more than planting hysterical and far-fetched paranoia in their readers' heads.

    Up until FDR there was a gentleman's agreement that no president should serve more than eight years. When FDR breached that, the 22nd Amendment took care of that.

    Martial law in the U.S. is unprecedented. It's not going to happen. If a president did try it, we thankfully have a three-branch government to prevent it. The Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court would put a stop to it within hours.
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    May 01, 2008 8:27 PM GMT
    I may have come on a "little" strong. I believe that if we want these things to stop WE as a whole, as a nation, need to get up and fight back about. Corruption is America's greatest problem. People want to sit around discussing issues instead of making them known in a realistic way. We should be standing as a nation and yelling back at Bush and CONGRESS, Hello these are the one people that can back fire at this rich sob and keep him from doing the destruction that is still going on today. Money is America's problem. As long as the rich is getting richer, then everyone is content. but look now I'm just babbling again.....
  • jarhead5536

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    May 01, 2008 8:29 PM GMT
    Nah, I think he's bored with this, has been for some time. He can't stand not being the popular guy that everybody likes, like he was in college.

    I have heard that as a young man Shrub was drop dead gorgeous, kind of a nice guy and a ton of fun to be around. Maybe he should start drinking again.
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    May 01, 2008 8:32 PM GMT
    jarhead5536 saidHe can't stand not being the popular guy that everybody likes, like he was in college.


    Not popular? How about least popular! That is right. Today Bush broke the record. He is now the most disapproved of president in history. More disapproved of than Dick Nixon was on the eve of his resignation.

    I'll drink to that. icon_biggrin.gif
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    May 01, 2008 8:34 PM GMT
    I'm here to tell you boys, the war in Iraq and any other wars that he will start (Iran, et al) are for one reason, and one reason only. When Bush took office on January 20, 2001, the average national price per gallon for gas was $1.46. Today's average national price per gallon is $3.623 per gallon. You do the math. His buddies in the oil industry (not to mention companies such as Blackwater that benefit from war) are the ONLY reason we are in Iraq.

    To think that as of today, 4064 service people have given their lives so that Exxon could have multi-billion dollar profits is unconscionable.

    God help us until January 2009!