Married Canadian gay couple barred from entering US

  • metta

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    Aug 12, 2011 4:40 PM GMT


    Married Canadian gay couple barred from entering US


    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/canews-22424922/barred-from-u-s-26254680.html
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    Aug 12, 2011 6:37 PM GMT
    They're better off staying in Canada anyway. The way of life is better. The democracy is better. The economy is better.
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    Aug 12, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
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    Married Canadian gay couple barred from entering US


    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/canews-22424922/barred-from-u-s-26254680.html


    Although I agree it is quite sad, that sentence is misleading... They are both Canadians but one is also an American. They aren't barred from entering the United States... One is allowed to live there and the other can only visit.

    It sounds like the Canadian-only spouse WAS living in the United States illegally. Even a straight couple can't "just" get married and bring the other spouse across the border.


    They actually can...
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    Aug 12, 2011 8:44 PM GMT
    And because of the fraud in marrying, there is now a 4 yr wait after the marriage before the spouse of the American can apply for citizenship.

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    Aug 12, 2011 8:59 PM GMT
    Glad I watched this, I used to play volleyball with Michael Hefferon in the late 80s and early 90s. I always wondered what happened to him, and now I know. And they live in Stayner, Ontario where my Mom grew up. Small world.
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    Aug 12, 2011 9:01 PM GMT
    Rawrly said
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    Rawrly said
    metta8 said

    Married Canadian gay couple barred from entering US


    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/canews-22424922/barred-from-u-s-26254680.html


    Although I agree it is quite sad, that sentence is misleading... They are both Canadians but one is also an American. They aren't barred from entering the United States... One is allowed to live there and the other can only visit.

    It sounds like the Canadian-only spouse WAS living in the United States illegally. Even a straight couple can't "just" get married and bring the other spouse across the border.


    They actually can...


    Sorry, but you are wrong. There are visa processes. Marriage doesn't equal automatic citizenship or permanent residency. There are interview processes you have to go through and procedures that differ on whether you are coming over as a fiance (visa required) or are petitioning after marriage.

    Marriage visas have the highest rate of fraud.


    Your right, after re-reading what you wrote I understand now.

    I thought you meant that if a straight person married someone outside the country, they couldnt get them citizenship for that.
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    Aug 12, 2011 10:09 PM GMT


    The woman who they interviewed at 2:00. Rosalba Davis, I know her personally. She's a friend of mine. She's a super nice person as well. ^_^
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    Aug 12, 2011 10:24 PM GMT
    Rawrly said
    metta8 said

    Married Canadian gay couple barred from entering US


    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/canews-22424922/barred-from-u-s-26254680.html


    Although I agree it is quite sad, that sentence is misleading... They are both Canadians but one is also an American. They aren't barred from entering the United States... One is allowed to live there and the other can only visit.

    It sounds like the Canadian-only spouse WAS living in the United States illegally. Even a straight couple can't "just" get married and bring the other spouse across the border.


    True, another bullshit "homophobia" story.
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    Aug 12, 2011 10:42 PM GMT
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    Aug 12, 2011 10:43 PM GMT
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    what does this have to do with anything...
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    Aug 12, 2011 10:57 PM GMT
    another reason why gay marriage is a FEDERAL issue and a state has no right to discriminate. Gay marriage should be legalized everywhere.
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    Aug 12, 2011 11:35 PM GMT
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    Stan904 saidanother reason why gay marriage is a FEDERAL issue and a state has no right to discriminate. Gay marriage should be legalized everywhere.


    It IS a federal issue when it comes to immigration. That's why DOMA needs to be axed.


    My friend (the attorney you saw in the video) thinks that since DOMA has been challenged and has holes in it already, and since the current administration does not defend it anymore, it should collapse in a matter of a couple of years, maximum five years....?

    She said in one of our email correspondences:

    Regarding DOMA, I do believe that in a few years, DOMA will be gone. DOMA bars the federal government from granting married same sex couples benefits that they would otherwise be entitled to based on their marriage. It's such blatant discrimination that the Obama Department of Justice (DOJ) said it would no longer defend it in the court challenges (currently, there about about 5 or 6 challenges). The one that's furthest along is the one filed in Massachusetts, which is stalled at the 1st circuit. The case won at the district court, the DOJ appealed it to the 1st circuit and right before briefs were due, the DOJ had a change of heart and decided the law was indefensible. Now, House Republicans have hired lawyers to defend it, but the DOJ has entered briefs into all the pending DOMA challenges saying the law is unconstitutional. The problem is we don't know how long it will take for DOMA to fall. And it can happen in the courts or in Congress, but with this congress it does not seem likely. SO, the long answer is there is reason to be hopeful that DOMA will end, but it remains a question how long it will take and that's obviously a difficult situation for [gay] couples
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    Aug 12, 2011 11:36 PM GMT
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    Rawrly said
    Stan904 saidanother reason why gay marriage is a FEDERAL issue and a state has no right to discriminate. Gay marriage should be legalized everywhere.


    It IS a federal issue when it comes to immigration. That's why DOMA needs to be axed.


    My friend (the attorney you saw in the video) thinks that since DOMA has been challenged and has holes in it already, and since the current administration does not defend it anymore, it should collapse in a matter of a couple of years, maximum five years....?


    Perfect, I plan to marry ESCESV in 5 years!
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    Aug 12, 2011 11:38 PM GMT
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    Married Canadian gay couple barred from entering US


    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/canews-22424922/barred-from-u-s-26254680.html


    Although I agree it is quite sad, that sentence is misleading... They are both Canadians but one is also an American. They aren't barred from entering the United States... One is allowed to live there and the other can only visit.

    It sounds like the Canadian-only spouse WAS living in the United States illegally. Even a straight couple can't "just" get married and bring the other spouse across the border.


    True, another bullshit "homophobia" story.


    Well there is homophobia here though... a straight couple can at least apply for a visa for a spouse to become a resident, a gay couple cannot...
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    Aug 12, 2011 11:39 PM GMT



    There's interesting assumption here.
    Did they buy a house in both names and start this business in both names and adopt a child in both names?
    I suspect the US guy did.
    Or are some of you saying an illegal alien can start a business and adopt a child and buy a house with no verification of US citizenship, such as a social security number?

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    Aug 12, 2011 11:46 PM GMT

    True, another bullshit "homophobia" story. [/quote]


    Exactly.
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    Aug 13, 2011 1:46 AM GMT
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    meninlove said


    There's interesting assumption here.
    Did they buy a house in both names and start this business in both names and adopt a child in both names?
    I suspect the US guy did.
    Or are some of you saying an illegal alien can start a business and adopt a child and buy a house with no verification of US citizenship, such as a social security number?




    This:

    an illegal alien can start a business and adopt a child and buy a house with no verification of US citizenship


    ..and how long has that been possible?
  • Hokenshi

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    Aug 13, 2011 2:23 AM GMT
    Moral of the story: If you're gay and have an option to relocate out of America, do it!icon_razz.gif
  • Orias

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    Aug 13, 2011 8:20 AM GMT
    Why don't they bring his mother back to Canada? That's the only logical thing I can think of to do since Canada doesn't hate.
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    Aug 13, 2011 2:12 PM GMT
    Southbeach is right. Gay or straight, male or female, if you, yourself, do not have your US citizenship or visa, you do not leave the US and think you will get back in. Seems our neighbors south of the border know this very well.
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    Aug 13, 2011 2:21 PM GMT
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    Married Canadian gay couple barred from entering US


    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/video/canews-22424922/barred-from-u-s-26254680.html


    Although I agree it is quite sad, that sentence is misleading... They are both Canadians but one is also an American. They aren't barred from entering the United States... One is allowed to live there and the other can only visit.

    It sounds like the Canadian-only spouse WAS living in the United States illegally. Even a straight couple can't "just" get married and bring the other spouse across the border.


    True, another bullshit "homophobia" story.


    i was wondering when the homophobia card was going to be played. you did not disappoint!