INTEL OR AMD?????

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    May 02, 2008 10:26 PM GMT
    Hi RJ's
    I know this is not a tech site, but I been reading other post and noticed that are so various topic so I decided to ask this:

    I have been saving money for a while to buy a laptop or a tablet less than $1200. I've been doing so intensive search to find out where is the best store to buy it, and what are the best deal to get a good thing. but I'm stuck in this:

    what is best: intel or amd? (core 2 duo or turion 64 x2)

    i know some above average of computers but when it comes to laptops, i can't tell the difference.

    Thanks in advance for your help! icon_smile.gif

    PS: sorry for my bad grammar I am an amateur at english... I only speak spanish. icon_redface.gif
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    May 03, 2008 12:56 AM GMT
    My friends would be the best at answering this, but in general AMD is getting their ass handed to them by intel. Intel totally beat them to the punch with multicores and AMD betted on 64 bit computing which is still not ready. If you buy AMD 64 bit youll probably not end up using its 64 bit capacity and use a 32 bit version of your operating system, cuz 64 bit operating systems don't have good driver support.

    Mostly likely what your looking for is Intel. Although if you had the specs for each it would be easier. IF you really really really concerned find your processor at newegg.com read the comments and see the full specs ( if your not a comp arch guy you probably won't understand the specs but at least the comments will you do you good.

    In short, Intel.
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    May 03, 2008 1:48 AM GMT
    carthesis saidMy friends would be the best at answering this, but in general AMD is getting their ass handed to them by intel. Intel totally beat them to the punch with multicores and AMD betted on 64 bit computing which is still not ready. If you buy AMD 64 bit youll probably not end up using its 64 bit capacity and use a 32 bit version of your operating system, cuz 64 bit operating systems don't have good driver support.

    Mostly likely what your looking for is Intel. Although if you had the specs for each it would be easier. IF you really really really concerned find your processor at newegg.com read the comments and see the full specs ( if your not a comp arch guy you probably won't understand the specs but at least the comments will you do you good.

    In short, Intel.



    Question?
    How many AMD have you owned and had this issue with?
    What operationing system did it have ?
    What were you trying to do?
    Or did you just read this somewhere an believe everything you read?


    I have laptop with an AMD with Vista that I have never had an issue yet..
    I have a desk top with a AMD and Windows Nt and no problem.
    I have another laptop with AMD and Widows 98.
    I have another desk top with AMD and Windows 95.
    They all work like the day I un boxed them..
    I only upgraded to use the new software.
    Other wise my windows 95 kicked ass..

    Of course when I ordered I did not base on price and got the processor that would work for what I needed..
    That is running Auto-Cad, playing poker, watching movies, downloading music, shopping, e-mailing, making home movies, pictures, famliy tree, spread sheets, Designing my web sites.

    AMD is the best for my business and non business needs...
    But the call is your...
    I will tell you with and AMD you will find you will get more for not paying the higher price on the INTEL name...


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    May 03, 2008 2:02 AM GMT
    Since you're getting a laptop, I'm going to assume you're not wanting to do too much with the computer that's really going to tax the system.

    AMD was great before dualcore became the standard, but from what I've seen Intel has the best on the market right now.

    I'm not aware of any quadcores in the laptop market yet, but if you can find one within your budget, get that over a dualcore.

    If you're going to be running Vista, it's equally important to max out your systems RAM. Anything below 2GB of DDR2 is going to hamper a Vista system. However, I'd really suggest you find a copy of XP instead. You'll pull more horsepower from your system that way. Vista has a huge overhead that really cuts away at your resources.

    I really suggest searching around on Newegg and Tigerdirect for deals on laptops.
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    May 03, 2008 2:03 AM GMT
    The past 3 machines I have built are AMD's. I go with the 64 bit ones because if nothing else they have buffer overflow protection to prevent certain kinds of virus' I don't know if intel has that feature yet (i think they were supposed to), but if you have windows XP you can activate it with an AMD chip.

    I use windows because that is what I use at work (programming-wise) but also lots of Linux stuff that you can get in 32 or 64 bit.

    I see no real advantage to getting Intel as they just cost more usually. At the time I built my last AMD dual core machine it had "green" processors that consumed a LOT less wattage for the same processing power as an Intel chip. My laptop has AMD 64 also.
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    May 03, 2008 2:08 AM GMT
    well, at the moment, i have had 2 pcs, both completely intel. which assembled by myself, thats why comes the doubt about amd, because i have not experience with it.

    i plan to use it to take notes at university, internet, some PCB CAD, and when i not at home, for entertainment like music, movies, and light games.

    i incline to hp, because they have a variety products in the market. but i dont know how amd workon it.

    thank for the help
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    May 03, 2008 2:18 AM GMT
    My current one is AMD Athlon 64 x2 3800 (2ghz) (green 65 watt). These also have speed throttling so that when idle the chip can drop speed and run cooler/more efficient. It also uses dual channel 800Mhz memory (1GB) and sata2 drives.

    It all adds up to one very fast computer, but remember that things like that memory speed and hard drive are the biggest bottlenecks so the faster you can get those, the better the processor can do its job.

    I plan on building another one soon and I have a feeling it will be another AMD.

    Here is a good comparison of many AMDs and Intels.
    http://techreport.com/articles.x/12091/1
    It is about a year old so I am sure things have changed a little.

    Here is a newer one (for AMD CHipsets and Video) .. follow the "worth reading" links on the page for more details ..
    http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/03/07/daily-wibble-07mar2008

    Finally here is an analysts' recent view of the whole situation ..
    http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/28/Is-the-Intel-vs-AMD-chip-war-back-on_1.html
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    May 03, 2008 2:44 AM GMT
    IMO:

    Speaking of the Low to midrenge and general education & business market (<$2000.00):

    Unless you are planning on high end graphics (read movie editing etc), state of the art games programming, or really advanced mathematics and engineering applications; you probably won’t notice any performance difference between the two chipsets.

    The difference will show up between the lower speed processors and the higher speed ones, and the amount of memory you get.

    Given the current market, for most people (95% of users), and applications, I can not see justifying the difference in price that an Intel processor would cost ( ~$200 differential) over the AMD at this time.

    R
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    May 03, 2008 4:29 PM GMT
    Football_lover said[quote]

    Question?
    How many AMD have you owned and had this issue with?
    What operationing system did it have ?
    What were you trying to do?
    Or did you just read this somewhere an believe everything you read?

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    hey man there no need for that, I was just giving him my opinion based on what all of my very well qualified friends say and what ive seen on the market in the past year or so.

    No i don't own an amd computer, but i use one everyday.
    I run various distributions of linux and use different forms of windows.
    Im a math/cs major, so yeah i sorta do understand how CPUs work. Ive had to design some and use them.icon_evil.gif

    Lol it jock is probably right though, if hes not gonna be doing anything special with overclocking or anything whose gonna really know the difference.

    Why such an AMD fanboy Football_lover?
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    May 03, 2008 4:48 PM GMT
    I'm not sure the specifics of your PCB CAD software and that's could be an issue.

    Here's my opinion. If your using largely 'common' software, apps, games etc., then AMD would give you the best 'bang for the buck.'

    I've never owned an AMD system but I've used them with no problems with common applications. All of my own PC's have been Intel because some of my high end multimedia applications, (3D modeling/animation, DAWs and DV apps are optimized for Intel CPU's (and in some cases only work with Intel). Unless your using this type of application, there isn't a tremendous need for Intel, particularly if money is an issue.


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    May 04, 2008 1:11 AM GMT
    I would like to start by saying I did not mean to isult or make anyone feel bad.
    I just have a problem with "INTEL".
    They are over priced and over rated for what 90% of american house holds use a computer for.

    Again I am sorry if anyone thought my comments were mean.
    I was just stating my thoughts and asked a few questions...


    carthesis said[quote][cite]Football_lover said[/cite][quote]

    Question?
    How many AMD have you owned and had this issue with?
    What operationing system did it have ?
    What were you trying to do?
    Or did you just read this somewhere an believe everything you read?

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    hey man there no need for that, I was just giving him my opinion based on what all of my very well qualified friends say and what ive seen on the market in the past year or so.

    No i don't own an amd computer, but i use one everyday.
    I run various distributions of linux and use different forms of windows.
    Im a math/cs major, so yeah i sorta do understand how CPUs work. Ive had to design some and use them.icon_evil.gif

    Lol it jock is probably right though, if hes not gonna be doing anything special with overclocking or anything whose gonna really know the difference.

    Why such an AMD fanboy Football_lover?[/quote]
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    May 04, 2008 4:44 AM GMT
    np i thought i was overreacting. intel is more expensive in general.
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    May 04, 2008 5:06 AM GMT
    Oh, don't get me started. Intel is an evil, ruthless monopoly. If not for AMD, you wouldn't see an ounce of innovation coming out of Intel. AMD was first to market with 64-bit processors that were backward compatible with 32-bit applications (hello Xeon, what were you thinking?). AMD is the first to market with native quad-core processors (Opteron, Phenom) vs. Intel's two dual-core chips on a die (fake quad-core). True, AMD ran into some manufacturing glitches that delayed the release of its quad-core chips, but they beat the tar out of Intel. The Phenom desktop processor comes in both triple- and quad-core flavors, which to be honest, only the hardcore gamers really need. As for laptops, I own two HPs with Turion X2 processors and I have been extremely happy with them. I have never had a single driver or OS issue with any AMD system I've owned, even going back to the Athlon MP workstation from eons, ago. I also own an Opteron workstation and an Athlon FX gaming system.

    By the way, the alleged driver issues have all but dissapeared as most ISVs have long ago adopted AMD porting and optimization strategies.
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    May 04, 2008 6:47 PM GMT
    ruck_us saidOh, don't get me started.
    LOL, ruck_us you have blown your geek cover!! I had no idea!
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    May 04, 2008 7:14 PM GMT
    From what I understand about the processors, AMDs are better in handling graphic processing, such as multimedia and games.