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When you get a massage from a masseur, do you go draped or undraped?

Draped - no free shows! lol

They usually start with me face down - undraped. (I still have a great ass - if you've got it, flaunt it!) Why be so modest? Come on!

BostonVball saidDraped - no free shows! lol

thats what I say. That costs dinner and at least 2 drinks!

Undraped, I like hearing him breath heavy during.

I go draped. My place that I go to requires you to have on at least under wear. I go a little farther and wear work out shorts. No nudies there!!

Undraped always. The whole sheet shuffle is a charade.

Ethic laws in Washington State require proper draping.

Auryn saidEthic laws in Washington State require proper draping.

In Texas, the client has a choice, but draping is the default. You have to request no draping, here. Even then, some therapists choose not to accommodate no-draping requests.

I can understand why, ruck_us. We pay a lot of money for training and then have continuing education and other fees. We don't want our licenses revoked because some random client wants his jiggly bits exposed.

Auryn said... jiggly bits ...

You are too funny!

I agree with ruck_us above, tho I have only gone twice, and both times, draped was required.

I have a massage every other week and it is always undraped. I've been going to this guy for over 10 years.

Speaking as a CMT/HHP specializing in Neuromusclar Therapy ... It's all up to preference of the client. Some spa's and clinics require draping and some do not. It all depends on the city rules and regulations. As far as doing massage out of your home or going to a clients house/apt. You can do the massage anyway the client feels comfortable. City regulations/licensing only apply to established clinic/spa/hotels.

As a therapist, it is easier to do the massage seamless without covering and then exposing as you go along. The person on the table is just another body to the therapist *or should be*, granted some are hot to look at...sadly most aren't. I learned in my psych course and interpersonal communications courses that draping actually on many lvls makes the client less relaxed because of the constant covering and exposing of skin. Clients always get in a comfort zone and then BAM...you're lifting the sheet again.

(my personal preference is no draping..for me as a client also, I prefer the client not draped if they are comfortable. It's all about you *the client*.)

Ok.. rambling too much here. Just one bit of advice...

ALWAYS check into the credentials of your therapist and ask them about their education. If someone works on you and has no clue what they are doing other than " a friend taught me" or "i've had enough massages to know how to do this well", they could really injure you. Hows that for relaxing and theraputic. hahaha

Draped unless I've been going to them for a while...

depends on whom i'm going to, i prefer draped with some, non with others

I have been part of the draped/undraped discussion on a few discussion boards and blogs and will share my thoughts here as well.

If draping is required by law (state/county/city) then draping should be practiced. However, if not written into the law it should be first based on the therapist's comfort and then on the client's comfort. If the therapist is not comfortable giving an undraped massage, it will not be a good massage.

Another point that needs to be made is that I am talking about undraped non-sexual therapeutic massage. There is no place for sexual services in a therapeutic massage. That, for the majority of us, is illegal.

Don't expect that because the therapist works undraped that there will be a 'happy ending' or 'manual release' at the end. It is those who are expecting sexual services that ruin the undraped massage for others. Because the majority of people who want undraped massage also want to get off, most therapists will insist on draped massage and will question the intent of one who asks for undraped work.

With that being said, I must say that I think it is a bit extreme that draping is an issue of law. If someone is going to perform sexual services, a sheet or towel will not stop him/her. Requiring a therapist to use draping, to me, is like saying that there is shame in viewing a nude human body and that the therapist is not performing a legitimate non-sexual therapeutic service.

Again let me say that both the therapist and client must be comfortable with undraped massage. But if both are comfortable, and it is non-sexual what is the problem? Who is getting hurt? Who is the law protecting?

I wouldn't have a problem with giving massage undraped except for those that think that all massage therapist are some kind of submissive butt monkey that will do whatever they are told. I am not your sex puppet and shouldn't be asked to provide illegal services.

Unfortunately too many men start thinking with their little head when it is exposed.

Please take that little peace of meat down to the ASPCA and have them put it to sleep.

I used to only get deck side massages after I finished racing, so we wore our suits. I recently started getting more regular massages. The place I go to does draped. However, I would probably prefer undraped. I end up getting hot in the room. Plus, if I am getting a massage, I want my ass worked. Glutes are usually pretty sore, so a sheet seems to get in the way and discourage a proper work on that area. Same goes with lower abs and upper thighs. I am not really shy and I doubt I have anything the therapist has not seen before.

Then of course there is the happy ending...JK

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I go draped and make sure to wear my green boxers with pink crabs on them. LOL! Because the masseuse I go to works for the hospital I work in, I believe draped is the only way an employee can go. Never looked into it.

ROFL! HAPPY ENDING!!!!!!

It doesn't matter to me here. Although if my uncle offers a massage to me, it has to be draped. Otherwise it would feel really weird.

DJBens77 saidPlus, if I am getting a massage, I want my ass worked. Glutes are usually pretty sore, so a sheet seems to get in the way and discourage a proper work on that area. Same goes with lower abs and upper thighs.

Part of being a good therapist is knowing how to drape really well. Any therapist working with a drape should be able to undrape any area including glutes, lower abs, upper thighs for specific work. If your therapist is not properly working these areas, I suggest you discuss it with him/her. If he/she still doesn't work the areas, find a different therapist.

I prefer undraped...we all got the same parts. Its not like the dude has never seen a dick.

and it is totally distracting to have your body parts covered and uncovered and that damn sheet rammed into and under things all the time. I like to relax and concentrate on my breathing and thats difficult to do when I'm laying there wondering whether my junk is sticking out and whether its making my overly sensitive massage therapist nervous. The other things some drapers tend to forget is when you uncover a HUGE body part like your entire back or your chest/abs...after it has been covered for awhile...there's sometimes a little discomfort with the cold air now suddenly hitting ur skin.

as far as getting turned on..meh, it happens...and sometimes the therapist ignores it and sometimes they don't. whatever..its all cool with me.

it is funny, though how high and mighty some massage therapists are. "I would NEVER!!!" but then the guys I've had massages from who have wanked me off afterwards always say "I never do that...I just never do that..."

rrriiiggghhttt.

Any of you ever had a female give a massage?

JaseinOC saidAny of you ever had a female give a massage?

Yeah. Many times. Actually, the majority of massage/bodywork I have received has been from female therapists.

I am not sure why masturbation is not considered part of a massage. it is but only a natural part of being human and relaxation. I only go to people who allow undraped massages and who are professionally licensed.

Canadian regulations required that I drape clients during a treatment, and there is also time restrictions (7am - 8pm, I think). I haven't looked into the regulations here in Texas yet. As a client, I could care less either way.

Draped, the masseur was a female specializing in muscle injuries. I had a torn hamstring that I was trying to heal. She was great and very respectful of my privacy (which I appreciated).

I think we also have draping laws. But it was also a woman, who was already asking if it was ok to massage my gluteals, so...

If it were completely a choice, I'd leave it to them. I don't care about being naked. But I'm a gay tree hugging liberal democratic socialist raised by hippies.

Undraped!

Heh, all this discussion, as I sit here never having had a massage!

draped and in undies. guess I'm modest.

Tommyguns, agree with you
I've had the same experience, "I've never done that before . . ."
Makes ya wonder why they chose YOU, but I'm not that egotistical to think they've never done that before!

UNDRAPED

Wish there was a roster somewhere so you knew what cities/states require draping.

COJock1974 saiddraped and in undies. guess I'm modest.

That's just overkill, but whatever you're comfortable with (and ethical). I've massaged folks that were fully clothed before, no draping required then. Can't do treatment work that way though; trust me, you don't want a Massage Therapist to try to do treatment work through clothes.

OK, I'll say it... bare assed naked. Who are we kidding guys?

Me, too. Both my massage therapist and I have no issues with my nakedness. Frankly, it seems to be easier for him to do his work. When he's in those "sensitive" areas, he uses a towel.

I spend a lot of time in overseas, with coed saunas where everyone is naked-or where men lay out in public parks naked on weekends. I'm more comfortable being fully undraped, and if the Massage Therapist is not comfortable, I'll find another one. I've gone to both male and female, I prefer male, I've never sought out a gay MT. I've gotten hard-ons, and they pass, and I've also not gotten hard-ons. That's just part of being a man-- I'm thankful every time I get a hard-on, apparently since erectile dysfunction is so epidemic-- who knew. I feel lucky.

I find American men being modest at the gym kind of funny, but also nice in an old-fashioned way. But I don't like it when it seems like it comes from homophobia-- straight guys who are "afraid" of gay guys looking at them. I've had plenty of straight and married guys check me out-- maybe not because they are cruising, but because it's just a natural human curiosity; you can tell that they are comparing themselves. And sometimes it seems that American men cover up because they are not comfortable with or proud of their bodies. That seems sad too-- you are only young once, maybe I don't have my ideal physique, but still I think it's important to feel good in your own skin.

It's affirming and beneficial to have massage, and I personally believe it's great for gay men to have therapeutic touch from other men in a non-sexual way. If you get outside of America, you realize how little we touch here **especially between men,** and for me, beyond the physical benefits, it's also emotionally comforting and relaxing.

That's my two cents, thanks.

Auryn saidThat's just overkill, but whatever you're comfortable with (and ethical). I've massaged folks that were fully clothed before, no draping required then. Can't do treatment work that way though; trust me, you don't want a Massage Therapist to try to do treatment work through clothes.

Wow. I must say that I am surprised to hear a fellow therapist make these statements.

First of all, if he is most comfortable receiving a massage with underwear and draping, that's not overkill. I have many clients who keep their underwear on. What's wrong with that? Why is that overkill? Why make a statement like that to a client?

Secondly, I can work through clothing just fine and still give you a very therapeutic session that will make you feel great. Clothes should not be an obstacle for people to get massage. It's why David Palmer is so passionate about chair massage.

Anyone who wants to receive massage/bodywork should find a therapist that will work with him/her at his/her comfort level. If you wish to stay fully clothed, find a therapist who knows how to work with this. If you want to be in your birthday suit, find a therapist willing to do this (although this one is a lot more difficult to find and possibly illegal).

My point is that your comfort level boundaries should never be crossed or challenged. If a therapist makes you feel uncomfortable by saying you should remove your underwear, and you don't want to, find another therapist. If you are ever made to feel uncomfortable for any reason, find another therapist. A well trained, experienced, professional therapist will never judge you and will meet you where your comfort level is for each session.

I used to go to a great Korean Spa north of Seattle--beautiful place with saunas, huge jacuzzis, steam, etc-- and they would give body scrubs with you on the table in plain view of all the men, not a stitch on. They would scrub you everywhere, even hold up your balls while they scrubbed in that area. It was great. Massage was also undraped. No one batted an eye. I enjoyed the male bonding that such places provide--nakedness with no sex hunting. Just men sitting in steam or jacuzzi naked and socializing. America needs more places like this. Of course Europe has these places, too, especially Germany and Scandinavia.

Does anyone know a good masseur in Portland, Fort Lauderdale, Austin or in San Diego who doesn't mind when both he and the client are nude during a massage? Not looking for sex, just someone who is comfortable with that.

cstbrian said[quote]
Wow. I must say that I am surprised to hear a fellow therapist make these statements.

First of all, if he is most comfortable receiving a massage with underwear and draping, that's not overkill. I have many clients who keep their underwear on. What's wrong with that? Why is that overkill? Why make a statement like that to a client?

Secondly, I can work through clothing just fine and still give you a very therapeutic session that will make you feel great. Clothes should not be an obstacle for people to get massage. It's why David Palmer is so passionate about chair massage.

Anyone who wants to receive massage/bodywork should find a therapist that will work with him/her at his/her comfort level. If you wish to stay fully clothed, find a therapist who knows how to work with this. If you want to be in your birthday suit, find a therapist willing to do this (although this one is a lot more difficult to find and possibly illegal).

My point is that your comfort level boundaries should never be crossed or challenged. If a therapist makes you feel uncomfortable by saying you should remove your underwear, and you don't want to, find another therapist. If you are ever made to feel uncomfortable for any reason, find another therapist. A well trained, experienced, professional therapist will never judge you and will meet you where your comfort level is for each session.

I'm aware that I made a quick blanket statement about this and it was intended to address the need for some types of treatment work; especially if the therapist is using cross fiber friction at certain locations around the ilium and pelvis. If the client wants to wear his undergarments when I'm around those areas, working on say sacro-iliac and other pelvic region ligaments as I've been trained, they know that there will have to be a lot of checking in. I don't want to injure healthy tissue and not all of us have the types of palpation skills that will allow us to pinpoint small adhesions through clothes. Many people get bruised when they don't need to be because many LMTs don't properly flush an area that's been treated and/or over work an area.

Perhaps doing more medically-oriented massage, I've become used to the clients being more relaxed about such things. If I'm not specifically working on glutes or legs, I usually have to tell that they may keep their lower garments on. I'm a stickler for draping; even clients that want to be uncovered know this --my boyfriend even knows that if he's coming to me for treatment that I'm covering him.

Can I do effective treatment work through clothes? Yes, and I have, but not to the same degree. When explained to the clients properly, which I do when outside of online forums, they feel protected and they do work with the therapist since it's about both working together to get the best results for the client.

In all, your admonishment was warrented due to my quick response, and your further explaination to make clients feel comfortable was well laid out. There are plenty of modalities for massage that work to various degrees. If a client doesn't like one, there are others that can help. I like my primary method because it's fast and the most effective for treatment work that I've studied so far.

draped

JaseinOC saidAny of you ever had a female give a massage?

I always get massaged by women. Naked. Draped.

There are exceptions, of course, but generally in my experience, masseuses who've given me massages are not as good as the masseurs (those are still legit words!). So now I only book masseurs, and always prefer to be undraped--less hassle with draping-- nicer and longer full body strokes, too, that can go over glutes and all the way up your back.

I prefer covered. The 6 times I have had a massage have I was given a towel and told to I can either wear my underwear or nothing but the towel. I have never been covered with a sheet, exception being when I had a seaweed wrap done, followed with heated stone massage. 5 of the 6 times it was a female masseur(sp?).

I learned Im more relaxed around a woman because Im often not attracted to them and thus not worried about becoming embarrassed because the potential of the little guy waking-up and coming to attention isnt there.

The one time I had a guy massage me I ended up tensing up because I started becoming aroused. He was a hot muscled daddy bear and well the little gay started thinking for himself right after the first touch. I was tense and embarrassed and it took an extra 45min to relieve all that extra tension that was caused.

If I went for a massage and had to cover with a sheet I would leave. The wrestling with the sheet and constant cover and expose would be to much. Large towels I prefer but sheets I had that one time due to the wrap and not the because it was required for the massage part.

I just had the weirdest draped experience ever.

I went in for this massage and you know how when they do it draped they have all these ways of moving the sheet around so ur junk is covered and the body part they are working on is exposed? well this guy was moving the sheet around but he kept my junk pretty much UNCOVERED the whole time. It was like he was going out of his way to keep it exposed. Now I must admit..I'm a pretty big boy...there was no way he didnt notice.

Which got me to thinking that he was checking out my junk while he was massaging me....which got me all stiff....which meant the usual copious amounts of precum.

So there I was...rock hard, abs covered in PC and the sheet getting moved all around my package like some kind of weird dance of immodesty.

Nothing happened...he didnt nut me or anything...but the whole thing left me with blue balls and an uncomfortable walk back to my car....

tommysguns2000
well if I were working on you I'd just ask, do you want to be draped or not?
you'd like my lomi-lomi massage (hawaiian style, long full-body strokes with palms and forearms)
but I'd have to avoid all your PC or wipe it up so it wouldn't get mixed in with the oil . . . .

wow, tommysguns2000, that was a strange experience. Once a guy draped me, but when I was on my back he made long strokes on my torso and slow moved the sheet down each time and my guy poped up and was exposed. Guess he wanted to see.

so to tommyguns experience... that is one of my fears, that i will become rock hard during a massage while on my back. it has happened to me before but while on my stomach so that by the time i roled over, it was down, no lump in the sheet.

does it happen often to u guys and if so, how does the masseuse act, how do u act? is there tension or just buisness as usual?

Gob,
It happens once in a while, and sometimes I've had guys move into the forbidden fruit area. If you say, no thanks, they always just move on. Massage is too great to be scared off because you might pop wood. Increased blood flow my massage prompts wood, anyways, so it's pretty normal.

my massuer doesn't mind when I get hard, he says it is a natural response, enjoy it and just breath deeply. So I breath deeply and it goes away.

that's the best way to deal with it
who hasn't seen a hard dick before?
doesn't mean you want to have sex
just enjoy the massage!

meh...I dont mind them looking. the two guys I usually get massages from are really good looking so I enjoy the idea of them checking out my junk.

and I'll definately take u up on the lomi lomi, pecman...doesn't really bother me to get a little pc in my massage oil, lol

Draped:

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I have had only a few massages, mostly at a gym or a spa resort. Most of the time its draped.But when your faced down, I dont see a need for draping for godsakes.
And i have back problems, so i need my glutes worked alot so I say dont bother draping. When I flip on my back however I liked to be draped just in case the masseur is hot I dont want my boner in my face....lol
Or do I? :-)

anybody recommend a good masseur in
Las Vegas
Portland
San Diego?

Below are a few websites where you can find masseurs in those cities. I've used these sites to locate masseurs while travelling.

wwww.massagem4m.com
www.masseurfinder.com

Most of the places I go in the US require at least a drape. Many places in Europe it is more optional.

I usually wear a pair of workout shorts in any case.

Well if you're draped, it is going to be hard for them to give you a "happy ending."

It is no longer in business, but one time I went for a massage at this health club in Dallas, called "The Q." It was later bought by 24 Hour.

Anyway... the guy doing massage was super hot... short, buff boy... probably 22. The whole time he was talking about his girlfriend, football and famous guys he had supposedly massaged.

He slowly massaged lower and lower until he was right there. Seeing I was aroused, he just started stroking, then hopped up on the table and rode it, raw no less... very hot.

Only charged me half price too!

Massage is part of my training from back in the Navy as a hospital corpsman on Submarines.. I have done thousands of massages since then too. From my standpoint; Its all what you are comfortable with. I prefer the person draped myself I can move it when I need to put my hands on the but tux, or upper thigh areas.

My favorite body part to get worked on are my glutes, followed by hamstrings. Much easier to work on them undraped.

What are your favorite parts to be massaged?

No favorite parts of a massage - I like it all - and really appreciate a firm, deep tissue massage with lots of warm oil. And I don't want some little towel on my ass - Jeez - the guy has seen a million guys naked, why should we affect modesty?

LOL, agreed that a little towel on one's butt is silly,
as my mom used to say,
"You haven't got anything I haven't seen before."

Just to point out to those that may not know. In some states it's legally required to have the genitals, female breasts and the "doughnut" covered while receiving a professional massage.

It may vary from state to state but just think of it. Many of you are actively breaking the law.

For myself, they have seen it all, and will see more, so drop the towel.. why bother, it just gets in the way...

Either way is fine with me, as long as no laws are broken.
Is there anyone giving rub downs around Baton Rouge?

When I get a massage I usually get cold. I'm assuming the reason why is because the oil acts like a conductor to allow more surface heat from my skin to escape. So I tend to want to cover up cuz I getz chilly.

ruck_us saidUndraped always. The whole sheet shuffle is a charade.

LOL

WHORE!

Arent you cold? I got a massage the other day and I loved being draped and all cozy under the blankie.... awww

muchmorethanmuscle saidWhen I get a massage I usually get cold. I'm assuming the reason why is because the oil acts like a conductor to allow more surface heat from my skin to escape. So I tend to want to cover up cuz I getz chilly.

THEORETICALLY Oil actually should warm you up because it blocks pores and acts as a covering layer. That's why they tell people to put on Albolene before the sauna, it makes you sweat more by making you warmer...

But I think that perhaps between the being naked, unfamiliarity with the person, the overly cranked A/C etc one can feel quite cold.

muscletroy, try one of my massages and see if you get cold . . . no cost to you . . .

BigSETXjock
how long ago did that experience happen?

tommysguns2000 saidI prefer undraped...we all got the same parts. Its not like the dude has never seen a dick.

and it is totally distracting to have your body parts covered and uncovered and that damn sheet rammed into and under things all the time. I like to relax and concentrate on my breathing and thats difficult to do when I'm laying there wondering whether my junk is sticking out and whether its making my overly sensitive massage therapist nervous. The other things some drapers tend to forget is when you uncover a HUGE body part like your entire back or your chest/abs...after it has been covered for awhile...there's sometimes a little discomfort with the cold air now suddenly hitting ur skin.

as far as getting turned on..meh, it happens...and sometimes the therapist ignores it and sometimes they don't. whatever..its all cool with me.

it is funny, though how high and mighty some massage therapists are. "I would NEVER!!!" but then the guys I've had massages from who have wanked me off afterwards always say "I never do that...I just never do that..."

rrriiiggghhttt.

Being a therapist, I prefer to drape most clients for their warmth, however, if they wish not to be draped, it is at MY discretion. Have done that for some, but not for all the goombahs that may request it.

Once the decision is made, shit MAY happen...

JaseinOC saidAny of you ever had a female give a massage?

I see Kiersten at the Barber Lounge in San Francisco every month...she's great...although I am naked under the sheet...there is always a sheet somewhere on me...you can go naked?...that seems wierd to me...

- David

Interesting to read all of this.

Anyone in Chicago know of a masseur in/near the Loopwho will work undraped?

i get cold, so i like getting draped

UNDRAPED.

I'm a licensed massage therapist.
Let me clear up a few things:

#1 most rules regarding massage are created by women...which explains the whole mindset behind undraped massage being somehow unappropriate.
Call me a mysonogenist but women have TOO MANY issues.

#2 Almost all men (about 95% in my experience) ignore the towel.
Especially straight men.
It's just not an issue...It's a locker room thing.

#3 Almost every man gets an erection. Straight or gay. It means nothing. (But if it's BIG I'm not missing it if I can help it. Lol.)

#4 EVERY massage therapist has worked on an undraped client.

#5 Exactly 98% of all massage therapists have had sex with a client...The remaining 2% are liars.
(Yes I stole that joke but the thought behind it is true.)

#6 I'm a total Ass-Man so you KNOW my guys get a grrrreat glute massage.
(Again, if you want a great ass/leg massage, it has to be a gay, male massage therapist. The straight guys get nervous and the women just won't go there.
Plus if you're not ''into'' butt, you're not going to give a decent butt massage.
Again...it's because most schools are run by women and women won't go there.
(They're reacting to their own over-abundance of holes down there.)

Draped or undraped? It depends.

This is kind of off-topic, but I wanted to say that I had assumed masseurs did a better job than masseuses (more strength, etc.), but the best massage I ever had was from a young woman in Ft. Bragg, CA.

I felt it for two days afterward.

Undraped for me, feels good with no inhibitions....i got to know my masseur from the gym i used to work out at. have had him massage me undraped. he doesn't have a problem with it.

As a massage therapist I let the client decide if they want to be covered or not. I leave the room and they can get under the sheet or not. Since massage is supposed to relax a person I'm disappointed if they don't give me an erection in a way. If a client requests it they can hold a towel during a body scrub--but most do not want a towel. Some clients don't want covered at all and when I worked at a spa if one of the supervisors peeked into my room I could have easily been fired for not forcing the client under the sheet. I do massages out of my home now, so I'm the boss and your mine for the session. When working glutes it was illegal in the state of Maryland to have both ass checks exposed at the same time and here in California it is illegal to even touch the glutes, but what happens here stays here! www.paramountherbs.com

A question for you licensed folks: Is genital massage ever indicated as a legitimate intervention? I mean, the penis is a body part just like the calf muscle, right? And we all know that calf massage would be indicated in the case of calf muscle strain, for example. But are there ever legitimate medical reasons the penis would need therapeutic attention?

illegal in CA to massage the glutes? !!!
WTF is wrong with our lawmakers?????
That's the best part to have massaged

I have had a few massages and have never been uncovered.
Haven't had my glutes worked on either. I have lower back problems and it would probably feel even better if they worked a little farther down.
All of mine have been by woman LMT's.
Seems as though I might be missing something, damn!!

MASSAGEGUYDAVE

I am thinking next time I 'm in NY, need to look you up and book a massage!

wvdave
yes, you would feel much better to get your glutes worked on, my favorite part to have work done

Being a clinically trained board certified massage therapist I cannot resist chiming in. Personally I don't care for draping. I use to have an always draped policy when I graduated from school. As time went on, I have found that I like the ability of being able to use flowing strokes. Besides, it is the client that is paying for the expertise of my hands to work out areas that are tense, causing them discomfort or to relax them from a stressful day. That is not to say that I will not give you the best massage if you prefer being draped. I can give you the best massage that you have had with or with out the draping. I do not let that stand in the way of my treatments. A mutual understanding between you and your therapist is essential. If your therapist prefers draping, that should not be an automatic judgement of how they will be able to do your treatment. Personally I think Americans are too uptight in general, and that goes back to our Puritan beginnings. Most European countries don't use sheets. The use of sheets does get in the way a bit when I do my stretching out of my clients during their treatments. Thanks for reading, and here is where I do a shameless plug for work by saying that if you are ever visiting Chicago, contact me if you would like a massage
Arthur

Always draped, don't mind showing off the body I have worked hard for, but I get cold easily so I always prefer to be covered up at the massage place, however at home is another story! lol :0

Let me also add that I have found that the use of a heated table pad works great for keeping clients warm. And at the end of the massage, weather draped or undraped, a heating blanket on top of the top sheet when you are finished is a nice touch too. I generally will cover the client if the massage was undraped or add the blanket if draped right before I start neck/shoulder/face work at the end of the treatment. It is a great way to help aid in the relaxation and warm up the body increasing blood flow to help flush away the toxins that have been stirred up. Careful not to make the blanket or the pad too hot. I have found that 4-6 is the perfect comfortable range.
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yeah, heated table is best way to get worked on!

I strip down all the way but I def want that sheet covering me at all times. I don't care if it's my first time or if I'm a regular I want the sheet. I'm not at all into sensual massage. I think massage is an art and sensual massage is generally a perversion of massage. To me...

Riepenac already brought this up, but I find this conversation so characteristically American.

We really are prudes here. Sometimes I think of us as little kids getting all giggly when they first start talking about... * whispers * ...someone's PEEPEE!

OMG NUDITY! So shocking.

After seeing genitals, as a good American, I usually have to calm my jangled nerves by watching some American TV were 37 people get gunned down with blood splattering everywhere and 5 or 6 explosions with body parts raining down -- all of which is completely accepted by our culture, so long as there's no.... * whispers * .... PEEPEES!!!

Well I know for me I don't want my junk all out there and if I were the masseuse I don't really care to see yours either. When I get a massage I expect it to be totally professional and in no way some kind of sexual act. That's just me though. If you feel you need to have your junk exposed then more power to you but I know I wouldn't allow it if I were massaging you. I'd say either get under the sheet or get a new masseuse...

Just to add a brief little comment (or two), a masseuse should be used when referencing a female, and a masseur would be the proper term to be used when referencing a male (pet peeve of mine and a couple instructors I had in school), and to be politically correct, one should use the term massage therapist unless you are referencing an escort.

Draping or no draping should in no way indicate if the massage is going to be sensual or therapeutic. I do agree with you slapaho about massage being an art. It has been practiced for centuries and its benefits have been recorded through out history. If more people could afford to have massage on a more regular basis, there would probably be less people on prescription meds, less road rage, and just a happier society in general. I do disagree however with sensual massage being looked at as a perversion of massage. What I think should be looked at as more of a perversion of massage, are people who call themselves massage therapist who are really nothing more than call boys/girls. That alone is bringing more discredit to the industry than anything else.

Sensual massage in itself is an art that is practiced between two consenting adults who have that intent. When I do a massage it is not intended to be sensual, it is not about looking a persons dick, it is not sexual. It is about healing. The truth told, 95% of the massages that I do, the client is under the sheet and if no draping is used, it should be the client requesting that not the therapist suggesting. If I went to a therapist who suggested not to use the sheet, yes I would question what this therapist intent was.

This is not a personal attack and please don't take it that way. Just another chiming in of my input. :-)

I have a regular massage therapist in Ft. Lauderdale. He offered draped or not draped, and being modest I did draped. Initially I would think of my big lesbian neighbors to try to control my "feelings". Regardless, I would be standing tall before the end of the massage. At first it was akward... but one day the sheet fell to the side - I was mortified, but laid there - and it was business as usual. I felt really akward - what was 30 seconds seemed like hours. I apologized, but he broke the ice by telling me just to relax and focus on letting go and feeling good. One day I could feel a little stiffness in my therapist - and I pressed back. I asked him iof he would like to undress... he did - he was erect - but it was professional. Now we both strip down - and it feels great. Live on the edge - go undraped!

In the nude. Massages feel too good without interruptions and clothing is an obstacle.

Hey there. I've gotten massages in several places in NYC and California and it's always been draped, as I believe it's illegal in these places to not have draping.

That said, an interesting story: I'm a 37 year old distance runner, so my legs and glutes are often super sore. Recently I decided to start getting regular massages. I went to a men's spa nearby that was recommended to me. I got a 90 minute massage, draped--the therapist is great. Really works my muscles and the work he does on my glutes and legs is simply amazing. The first two times I went, the massage was never sexual. In fact, as much as I was enjoying the massage, I never got an erection despite his amazing touch and the fact that I was completely naked.

This last time, however, was different. While on my stomach, it seemed he was grazing his crotch against my elbow whenever he was working on me from the side. I thought maybe I was imagining it or it was inadvertent... Then when he got to the working my legs, his fingers definitely were going underneathy my thighs and it seemed he was making sure he was grazing against my cock and balls--which I must admit felt amazing.

Naturally, when I flipped, I had a semi--definitely was not full-blown hard. I flipped, he looked, he covered me and then started working my front. This time, he started circling my nipples with his hands, and I though--okay, this is on. He's very attractive, mind you. Before I knew it, he was using long strokes down my torso and going low enough that he was pushing the towel down and exposing the top of my cock--also making sure he was grazing against the cock head with every stroke down. Naturally, I got hard as a rock. He turned the lights down, jerked me off, cleaned me up and then finished the massage with the towel back in place.

This was in a spa, by the way, so it's totally illegal behavior. I must say, however, that I truly enjoyed it. Anyone had a similar experience? Is this commonplace?

I've had a couple of masseurs at spas get frisky and do things I was shocked at--but I did not stop them. I generally enjoy a very sensual GOOD massage, preferring normally though not to have sex with my masseur. If he's nude like I am, it makes a nice connection, but does not have to lead to sex. That's what I prefer.

Undraped for sure. My regular therapist could not be bothered. have caught him sneaking a peek many times.

If any of you guys in the Toronto area know of a good massur who is both sensual and competent at the technicals, let me know. Always willing to try a new guy.

IT DEPENDS ON THE LAWS OF YOU STATE OR PROVINCE. THEN SOME THERAPISTS REQUIRE DRAPING.

Anybody from San Francisco go to KABUKI SPA?
Do you have to be draped there?

I've been there (in Japantown) and the answer is yes. Didn't care for the massage therapists there, but draping is required. You'll get a towel for the wet areas. Although most people cover themselves there, it's reasonable and accepted to walk around without. The wet areas are clean and above-board.

anybody been to this spa in SF?

http://www.imperialdayspa.com

or this one in Orange County?

http://www.orange-day-spa.com/Home.htm

Do you have to be draped at these?
Are the men's areas nude?

being draped is an option? not sure i like that idea.

If I were giving you a massage there´d be no draping involved.


mmm might be worth learning it just for that....

Anyone else get the feeling this thread exemplifies why straight people think gay guys are weird?

MassageGuyDave saidUNDRAPED.

I'm a licensed massage therapist.
Let me clear up a few things:

#1 most rules regarding massage are created by women...which explains the whole mindset behind undraped massage being somehow unappropriate.
Call me a mysonogenist but women have TOO MANY issues.

#2 Almost all men (about 95% in my experience) ignore the towel.
Especially straight men.
It's just not an issue...It's a locker room thing.

#3 Almost every man gets an erection. Straight or gay. It means nothing. (But if it's BIG I'm not missing it if I can help it. Lol.)

#4 EVERY massage therapist has worked on an undraped client.

#5 Exactly 98% of all massage therapists have had sex with a client...The remaining 2% are liars.
(Yes I stole that joke but the thought behind it is true.)

#6 I'm a total Ass-Man so you KNOW my guys get a grrrreat glute massage.
(Again, if you want a great ass/leg massage, it has to be a gay, male massage therapist. The straight guys get nervous and the women just won't go there.
Plus if you're not ''into'' butt, you're not going to give a decent butt massage.
Again...it's because most schools are run by women and women won't go there.
(They're reacting to their own over-abundance of holes down there.)

Hey, if it's massageguydave, definitely undraped, with an erection & let's save the massage for afterwards...

my massage therapist says the rule is if u have undies on it means dont touch ur ass if u dont ahve undies on it means massage the ass, and she also said its im portant to massage the ass cuz alot of supportive muscles are there for the back and it helps alot. unless she just wanted to touch my ass

flex89 saidAnyone else get the feeling this thread exemplifies why straight people think gay guys are weird?

Actually I think the Jake Gyllenhaal vs. James Franco thread does that more effectively. I vote for undraped. If they are gonna massage your glutes anyway, why not?

I've never had a real massage and feel so left out reading about them and imagining how great I would feel afterward.

I've had a massage both ways. The undrapped was in a private setting, not a spa or resort. The drapped was at a resort. In the private setting, if I requested to be drapped, I could have.

I have also had it both ways.

Resort = draped

Private = undraped

I prefer undraped so they can do the job all over and I dont mean sexually. Although that has happened more than once.

Anybody know of a massage therapist who will do undraped (but legit) massage in Nashville, TN?