Major Changes at Qantas

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    Aug 17, 2011 3:32 AM GMT
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    For fellow Australians, Qantas flyers, and aviation fans, here is one part of a major announcement by Qantas to shore-up its overall performance:
    http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20110816/pdf/420dxbfm2l4cyg.pdf

    Some highlights of the announcement, which includes points related to the JV Qantas has with LAN [Chile] Airlines and British Airways:

    -Launch of Jetstar Japan to be based at Tokyo Narita and Osaka Kansai

    -Launch of a new premium carrier based in Asia initially starting out with 11 A320's

    -More A380 deliveries, with some postponed until FY2019

    -B747 to be refurbished to A380 standards

    -Cancellation of Sydney/Buenos Aires service

    -Launch of Sydney/Santiago service in cooperation with LAN [Chile] Airlines

    -Cancellation of Qantas Hong Kong/London [Heathrow] and Bangkok/London [Heathrow]; flights will be transferred to British Airways

    -Continuation of A380 service from Singapore to London [Heathrow]

    -Cancellation of 1 British Airways London [Heathrow]/Sydney service, with Bangkok stop likely cancelled

    -Change of equipment on London [Heathrow]/Hong Kong service from B777 to B747

    -Increase in weekly flight from London [Heathrow]/Hong Kong from 14 to 17 on British Airways

    Also, Qantas claims that "out of 100 people, 82 choose other airlines than QANTAS for flying out of Australia.

    Additionally, Qantas will cut up to 1,000 jobs and not place an order for the B777.

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    Aug 17, 2011 7:42 AM GMT
    OK, here's a question for international travelers:

    One thing I noticed on Qantas flights is the reluctance to turn on the seat belt sign during turbulence, relative to American carriers, who have started to have a bit of a trigger finger, likely after some mishaps with flight attendants getting injured.

    When I fly Qantas, which I admit I haven't in a few years, I was always amazed at the amount of rockin sockin turbulence we flew threw without the seat belt sign on, and everyone just lolling around.

    Is that just my anecdotal "outlier" experience, or have others noted this as well?
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    Aug 17, 2011 7:49 AM GMT

    Generally I think the longer you are on the flight the more independence you are given and more responsibility.

    i.e. on a short haul flight you are basically treated like cattle and they want you in your seat for as much of the flight as possible, on longer flights, you're 'assumed to have 'learned' how to safely move around the plane even in turbulence.

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    Aug 17, 2011 8:05 AM GMT
    "B747 to be refurbished to A380 standards"

    This makes me sad icon_sad.gif
    I miss all the older aircraft
    DC10, MD11, L1011, 727, etc...
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    Aug 17, 2011 9:12 AM GMT
    They already fly to significantly less international destinations than prior to 9/11 (with only limited destinations - except for Asia). Quite sad really!
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    Aug 17, 2011 11:05 AM GMT
    One change I'd truly appreciate is if I could fly back to Malaysia in less than what exorbitant prices they keep charging plane tickets for the smallest details (luggage overweight by several kilos, extra cost for handling "mishapen" goods, etc.) even for Economy seats.

    Oh, and male strippers as in-flight entertainment. That would be lovely icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 17, 2011 11:23 AM GMT
    My family chose to fly Qantas a lot domestically when I was younger, but ever since I started flying internationally, I've gone Emirates always. The price difference alone is $500-700 less on flights from Brisbane-Paris.

    Qantas also recently kicked up a furore with the Chilean volcanic ash clouds crossing over New Zealand in June/July. Qantas/Jetstar cancelled a number of their flights when Cathay Pacific and Emirates continued to fly across the Tasman.

    I then flew with Jetstar from Auckland to Christchurch and it was the most annoying flight service/comfort-wise I've had in a long time icon_mad.gif

    Considering that on the news you hear a lot about the company's executives choosing to lay off large numbers of staff, or lock heads over wages with their maintenance engineers, only to reward themselves with hefty pay packages, this is not an Australian company I choose to support.

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    Aug 17, 2011 11:42 AM GMT
    Shahzadeh said"B747 to be refurbished to A380 standards"

    This makes me sad icon_sad.gif
    I miss all the older aircraft
    DC10, MD11, L1011, 727, etc...


    Yea as a airline/aircraft aficionado and air traveler I loved seeing the trijets in commercial service during the eighties and nineties.

    Before my air travels use to be on every major known airline I can think of (my parents were jet setters when they were younger)

    Now we primarily fly on Emirates or Ethiad and Air Canada although I find Air Canada quite lack luster in service....
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    Aug 17, 2011 2:38 PM GMT
    Shahzadeh said"B747 to be refurbished to A380 standards"

    This makes me sad icon_sad.gif
    I miss all the older aircraft
    DC10, MD11, L1011, 727, etc...


    Me too...they were sexy planes to look at but from a crew standpoint..a nightmare to work on icon_mad.gif. Back in the day...Hell was working the galley position doing a hot meal on a 2 hour flight on a 727 or DC10. Now its like....'whats a hot meal'...or 'whats a meal?' icon_eek.gif

    I wish my friends at QF the best. Dropping SYD-EZE for SCL makes sense...but messing with the Kangaroo Rote to LHR, starting a 'premium' subservice brand and outsourcing even more flying to Jetstar makes me wonder.
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    Aug 17, 2011 7:52 PM GMT

    I bet LAN are just over the moon that Qantas is going to offer a SYD-SCL service particularly when LAN are making an absolute fortune on the route.

    Ideally Qantas would fly SYD-GRU, but that's not going to happen anytime soon.

    Poor Qantas - those 787's can't come soon enough.

    I would love to see more flights servicing the other major Australian airports - Sydney just doesn't have the space/ slots to expand anymore.
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    Aug 17, 2011 10:57 PM GMT
    tanlejos said
    I bet LAN are just over the moon that Qantas is going to offer a SYD-SCL service particularly when LAN are making an absolute fortune on the route.
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    True...but they are both in Oneworld.

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    Aug 19, 2011 3:47 AM GMT
    I just got off a QANTAS flight (Brisbane to LAX) Tuesday morning. I've always loved their service in the air; they always seem to be on the forefront of in-flight technology. And yes, I did notice that they never turned on the seat belt sign even when we were rockin' and rollin'.

    A couple of things related to booking did bother me about the airline.

    When I first tried to book my flight online, I couldn't figure out how to do an open-jaw ticket through their website, so I called a reservations agent. She told me there would be a service charge for making a reservation over the phone! Luckily, she told me how to do the ticket through the website, so I booked it online and avoided the extra charge. But I've never heard of an airline charging extra to buy a ticket from a human.

    When I made the booking I didn't see any way to select my seat - I could only make a "preference" (i.e. aisle or window). My itinerary simply showed "Aisle" all the way up to the day of my flight, when I was placed in a middle seat (on a 14-hour flight). No fun! So, once at the airport I asked an agent how I could select a seat for the return trip. She told me I could do it on the website - and after a bit of searching, I found the right link (it wasn't in an obvious place). They charged me A$20 to select a seat! Not a premium seat, just a regular bargain-basement economy seat! I've never, ever had any airline charge a fee for selecting a seat! But I paid up, because I wasn't about to sit in the middle again all the way home.

    I just hope the US airlines don't get any ideas from this.