Fashion - shallow or...?

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    Aug 19, 2011 4:43 AM GMT
    I believe that there is nothing shallow about fashion itself, and that it is people who poorly represent fashion that make fashion shallow.

    I believe that fashion is not about dressing mannequin-shaped people only, but is a way to express yourself (in likeness to drawing, painting, writing poetry or lyrics) regardless of your sexual orientation, ethnic background, age, gender, and dare I say even income level.
    If you know where to look you can find designer [or at least higher-end] clothes for mere dollars. I bought a pair of Jean Paul Gaultier pants for about $8, and my friend got a Prada shirt for $15 at the same chain of Canadian thrift stores called Value Village. (Other names I've seen there include Marc Jacobs, Tommy Hilfiger, Gucci, Club Monaco, Zara)
    The only facet that can be limiting is size, just because I have to admit it's not easy for people over 250lbs to find clothes their size, but if you are just "chubby" or "fat" or even "muscular" and not considerably obese, there is absolutely no reason to dress poorly unless you don't care or don't know how to dress well.

    I firmly believe that most people can look better (if not stunning, gorgeous, or beautiful) if they simply change how they present themselves regarding their hair, clothing, and makeup (if applicable).
    Inner beauty is of course irrelevant to fashion, which does NOT make fashion shallow because if inner beauty is not considered, then you cannot determine how people who are interested in fashion will form their opinion about inner beauty.
    I also believe that inner beauty usually outweighs outer beauty, and I would rather date someone that people consider unattractive than date someone that people consider a douchebag.

    What do you guys think?
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:03 AM GMT
    it's not so much about fashion than knowing what suits you , colours, cut, fabric ...

    a simple T and worn out jeans ( not torn, just well used ) can make you look sexy.. or just unassuming , nonchalant, ... or a total slob.
    that's not fashion to me, but simply about choosing the right cut, size, colour and knowing yourself.
    i mean if someone sees me in lime green converse , purple skinnies and A&F tight T, i hope they'll be kind enough to shoot me in the head.

    and i don't think it's shallow , it's just a matter of interest.
    Look at women who occupy high positions in medicine, finance etc. Bring in the topic of fashion and they won't shut up ! . yet they're anything but shallow.

    Men can be much different though, question of culture, education and hardwired lack of interest most of the time . Men like to buy gear or like to keep their money for their favorite toys or activities.
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:06 AM GMT
    name dropping a bunch of designers is shallow
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:08 AM GMT
    xassantex saidand i don't think it's shallow , it's just a matter of interest.
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:08 AM GMT
    intentsman saidname dropping a bunch of designers is shallow
    Explain or your opinion will be dismissed as butthurtedness.
    and no, it's not, because people shop for brands of clothing for a reason. If you buy a t-shirt from wal-mart it will generally fit differently and be of poorer quality than a t-shirt from American Apparel.
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:09 AM GMT
    fuck off ;p
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:13 AM GMT
    xassantex saidfuck off ;p
    lol wut? i was agreeing with you.

    Saying that fashion is shallow is like saying that jogging is shallow. Some people jog because they're only concerned with slimming down and getting a better body, but others are merely doing it for the health reasons.
    Some people buy certain brands of clothing for the "prestige" of it, which is shallow, but some people (such as myself) buy certain labels because I know I can trust their clothing to fit me in the way I expect it to and to be of a certain standard of quality.
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:21 AM GMT
    Anduru saidI believe that there is nothing shallow about fashion itself, and that it is people who poorly represent fashion that make fashion shallow.


    This applies to a shit ton of things, usually socially based concepts that often get exploited or mishandled. Examples:

    I believe that there is nothing shallow about religion itself, and that it is people who poorly represent religion that make religion shallow.

    I believe that there is nothing shallow about capitalism itself, and that it is people who poorly represent capitalism that make capitalism shallow.

    I believe that there is nothing shallow about healthcare itself, and that it is people who poorly represent healthcare that make healthcare shallow.
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:22 AM GMT
    JakeBenson saidI believe that there is nothing shallow about healthcare itself, and that it is people who poorly represent healthcare that make healthcare shallow.
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:22 AM GMT
    haha, i thought you were ironic about my pontification.
    i like pontificating... amongst other things.
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:23 AM GMT
    Anduru said
    JakeBenson saidI believe that there is nothing shallow about healthcare itself, and that it is people who poorly represent healthcare that make healthcare shallow.
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    oh, sorry. I'll elaborate. Nothing is wrong with the concept of healthcare, but when providers fuck it up by mismanaging it, charging people a shit-ton of money, it makes healthcare suck.
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:25 AM GMT
    xassantex saidi thought you were ironic about my pontification.
    i like pontificating... amongst other things.
    You all into ponderin’ like cinemas n make believes n celluloids.
    Yeah, yeah ok, ok, me too, me too, ok, yeah, yeah, I respect that.
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:26 AM GMT
    JakeBenson saidh, sorry. I'll elaborate. Nothing is wrong with the concept of healthcare, but when providers fuck it up by mismanaging it, charging people a shit-ton of money, it makes healthcare suck.
    ohh right of course.
    in Canada we love healthcare. icon_surprised.gif
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:27 AM GMT
    Anduru said
    JakeBenson saidh, sorry. I'll elaborate. Nothing is wrong with the concept of healthcare, but when providers fuck it up by mismanaging it, charging people a shit-ton of money, it makes healthcare suck.
    ohh right of course.
    in Canada we love healthcare. icon_surprised.gif


    Because it is not poorly represented by people who poorly represent capitalism. That's why icon_smile.gif
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:28 AM GMT
    this topic is derailing at warp speed..

    a popular trend .
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:32 AM GMT
    xassantex saidthis topic is derailing at warp speed..

    a popular trend .


    Well duh haven't you been on the internet since 1998?
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:33 AM GMT
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    xassantex saidfuck off ;p
    lol wut? i was agreeing with you.

    Saying that fashion is shallow is like saying that jogging is shallow. Some people jog because they're only concerned with slimming down and getting a better body, but others are merely doing it for the health reasons.
    Some people buy certain brands of clothing for the "prestige" of it, which is shallow, but some people (such as myself) buy certain labels because I know I can trust their clothing to fit me in the way I expect it to and to be of a certain standard of quality.


    Keep telling yourself you're not shallow.

    Click the heels of your designer ruby slippers together while chanting "There's no place like Rome" 3 times and you'll wake up in your own bed of designer sheets far away from the tacky people of Kansas in their durable Carhart farm attire.

    No amount of paint will make your car run better.
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:36 AM GMT
    JakeBenson said
    xassantex saidthis topic is derailing at warp speed..

    a popular trend .


    Well duh haven't you been on the internet since 1998?


    we haven't evolved ?
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:36 AM GMT
    intentsman said
    Anduru said
    xassantex saidfuck off ;p
    lol wut? i was agreeing with you.

    Saying that fashion is shallow is like saying that jogging is shallow. Some people jog because they're only concerned with slimming down and getting a better body, but others are merely doing it for the health reasons.
    Some people buy certain brands of clothing for the "prestige" of it, which is shallow, but some people (such as myself) buy certain labels because I know I can trust their clothing to fit me in the way I expect it to and to be of a certain standard of quality.


    Keep telling yourself you're not shallow.

    Click the heels of your designer ruby slippers together while chanting "There's no place like Rome" 3 times and you'll wake up in your own bed of designer sheets far away from the tacky people of Kansas in their durable Carhart farm attire.

    No amount of paint will make your car run better.


    Are you trying to make fun of Anduru? That's not happening oh no *clicks his ruby slipper heels to summon Anduru*
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:37 AM GMT
    xassantex said
    JakeBenson said
    xassantex saidthis topic is derailing at warp speed..

    a popular trend .


    Well duh haven't you been on the internet since 1998?


    we haven't evolved ?


    Into what...older assholes that troll people on the internet? Give me time...I'll get there in about 25 years.
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:38 AM GMT
    xassantex saidthis topic is derailing at warp speed..
    a popular trend .
    i was trying to find pics of non-model people in sweet outfits to post but i got lazy
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:42 AM GMT
    intentsman saidNo amount of paint will make your car run better.
    You are completely blind to what I am saying.
    Clothes aren't supposed to make your personality "better", or "more bearable", or anything.
    Literally the only talents I have are playing video games and wardrobe coordination. I can only make a career out of one of those talents. Does that immediately make me shallow?

    Does being concerned about one's body and wanting to gain muscle immediately make most people on this website shallow? It depends on their reasoning for doing so.
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:43 AM GMT
    Anduru said
    xassantex saidthis topic is derailing at warp speed..
    a popular trend .
    i was trying to find pics of non-model people in sweet outfits to post but i got lazy


    that's superficial
    and shallow
    I'm glad you failed; frivolous pictures needlessly slow down our browsing experience.
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:46 AM GMT
    I think JB has a point - that fashion can't really be shallow, just people's perspectives about fashion. BUT, in saying that, the way someone dresses themselves suggests a lot about their personality/character. I'm not sure if it's 'okay' or 'shallow' to make judgments about a person according to that.
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    intentsman said
    Anduru said
    xassantex saidthis topic is derailing at warp speed..
    a popular trend .
    i was trying to find pics of non-model people in sweet outfits to post but i got lazy


    that's superficial
    and shallow
    I'm glad you failed; frivolous pictures needlessly slow down our browsing experience.


    LMAO did you just move to Wyoming from West Hollywood or something?!?