"Free" toolbars...a mini-rant.

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    Aug 19, 2011 3:36 PM GMT
    I just bought a brand spanking new fancy schmancy computer yesterday, and as all of you are familiar with, I had to setup everything like I like it. My biggest complaint is always those pesky "free" toolbars (and other stupid memory-intensive and security-infringing shit) that you have to be careful about on every page during setup. Nothing to be seriously upset about, but they're certainly a nuisance.

    Anyway, I'm going to be getting my first smartphone soon (waiting on the new ones to release). Do you have to go through the same bullshit with them as well?

    It seems that everything has a toolbar now. Sometimes I wonder how many people blindly click everything just because the program "recommends" it. I'm kinda surprised RJ doesn't have one. icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 19, 2011 5:23 PM GMT
    free toolbars suck, an its unreal how many ppl blindly click of, as for the smartphone, apples iphone comes w/ a few that you cant get rid of such as stocks, weather, photos, and notes, but its rly easy and apple has tight control, so you don't get all that extra "free" stuff, as for android, or wp7 i know nothin bout em
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    Aug 19, 2011 11:57 PM GMT
    Those things are also common when downloading new software. The tool bars can be removed in the browser(s) used. First thing to be checked with new software is that it hasn't been attached to the startup menu. They are really slow loading memory hogs that can bring the computer to a crawl.
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    Aug 20, 2011 12:02 AM GMT
    nabob7729 saidThose things are also common when downloading new software. The tool bars can be removed in the browser(s) used. First thing to be checked with new software is that it hasn't been attached to the startup menu. They are really slow loading memory hogs that can bring the computer to a crawl.
    Yeah I'm familiar with the fact that they come with free software. It's just when setting up a new computer, there's lots of stuff to download. Having to stop on every page during setup to read carefully and look for hidden checkboxes and auto-accept buttons is a pain in the ass. Getting rid of the ones that auto-download without authorization (Bing is a great example) is also a pain in the ass. Just wasted time.

    I was supposed to have photos retouched and ready for sale last night, but was too busy installing software and uninstalling toolbars. Now the boss temporarily hates me. icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 20, 2011 12:19 AM GMT
    Side note: Now that I have a good calibrated monitor (even the home pc's monitor sucks), I notice most of my pics have shitty color...even the camera's LCD screen is incorrect. Dammit! icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 20, 2011 12:20 AM GMT
    The cute, free little tool bars, smiley face characters and gifs you ad to text or emails are actually keeping tract of all the web sights you surf. They send and receive information about your computer activity without you ever knowing it. icon_eek.gif
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    Aug 20, 2011 12:27 AM GMT
    scottjock6 saidThe cute, free little tool bars, smiley face characters and gifs you ad to text or emails are actually keeping tract of all the web sights you surf. They send and receive information about your computer activity without you ever knowing it. icon_eek.gif
    If people would actually read about the toolbars, they'd know what the toolbars do (all the security-infringing shit). That's why I take the extra time to read the fine print when installing stuff. icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 20, 2011 12:42 AM GMT
    Johnnyhotsauce said...as for the smartphone, apples iphone comes w/ a few that you cant get rid of such as stocks, weather, photos, and notes, but its rly easy and apple has tight control, so you don't get all that extra "free" stuff, as for android, or wp7 i know nothin bout em

    I was impressed how easily the settings & apps from my old iPhone 3GS transferred to the new 4, all the info seamlessly copied over automatically.

    My last several Macs have also been very simple to set up, I just cable them together at their 800 Mbps ports and use a Utility called Migration Assistant. Every file from the old Mac moves over to the new Mac, along with all my settings & preferences. I just start the Assistant and it runs on its own, does everything that needs to be done.

    Instant set-up! And it works fast and very well; I've never seen 2 non-Apple smartphones or PCs able to do the same thing quite so effortlessly. Then later I can customize the new iPhone or Mac as I wish, based on whatever new features they have that I like. But basically I'm starting with the same familiar arrangement, so I'm not initially lost, and can get right to work with them without a puzzling & clumsy adjustment period.

    As for toolbars, I dislike their clutter, and my Safari browser has none but what Apple intended. But I've used PCs where the stacked toolbars left little browser window space, redundant features for which their owners never seemed to have any real use.
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    Aug 20, 2011 1:03 AM GMT
    My mom is one who clicks through and winds up with random toolbars. Mostly she does it so she can play Bejeweled. Silly women.

    Anyway, I haven't had any issues with popups asking to install toolbars or downloading apps that include stealth toolbars. However, I also stick to mostly googling things when away from the home computer or using maps when using the full browser on my android system. Can't speak for iphones or windows phones.
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    Aug 24, 2011 7:23 PM GMT
    The automatic suggestions always annoy me and i have never enjoyed clicking on free toolbars, they make my browser look messy.

    I agree it is one big nuisance but i won't mind much if it comes from free programs, free stuffs need advertising to stay alive, i know right.

    Still. big nuisance.
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    Aug 24, 2011 7:34 PM GMT
    haha this is hilarious. Only because I do Tech Support for a big company. When I remote into peoples computers to resolve their issues, I usually go out of my way to help people remove/disable those damn toolbars. Its not something I'm supposed to do, but they can create a lot of chaos and difficulty. Usually I don't go too deep into why with the customers. I usually just ask, "Hey Mr So&So, do you ever use this toolbar I see here...?" "No? Would you mind if I get rid of it?" "Thanks, now that look a lot more sleek doesn't it?"

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    Aug 24, 2011 7:58 PM GMT
    MercuryMax saidhaha this is hilarious. Only because I do Tech Support for a big company. When I remote into peoples computers to resolve their issues, I usually go out of my way to help people remove/disable those damn toolbars. Its not something I'm supposed to do, but they can create a lot of chaos and difficulty. Usually I don't go too deep into why with the customers. I usually just ask, "Hey Mr So&So, do you ever use this toolbar I see here...?" "No? Would you mind if I get rid of it?" "Thanks, now that look a lot more sleek doesn't it?"

    Mercury Max saves the day again!
    That's why I stopped helping my mom with her computer problems. I'd try to delete the bad stuff and she'd say "well it was 'recommended' so it can't be all that bad." And I'm like icon_confused.gif
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    Aug 24, 2011 8:24 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    MercuryMax saidhaha this is hilarious. Only because I do Tech Support for a big company. When I remote into peoples computers to resolve their issues, I usually go out of my way to help people remove/disable those damn toolbars. Its not something I'm supposed to do, but they can create a lot of chaos and difficulty. Usually I don't go too deep into why with the customers. I usually just ask, "Hey Mr So&So, do you ever use this toolbar I see here...?" "No? Would you mind if I get rid of it?" "Thanks, now that look a lot more sleek doesn't it?"

    Mercury Max saves the day again!
    That's why I stopped helping my mom with her computer problems. I'd try to delete the bad stuff and she'd say "well it was 'recommended' so it can't be all that bad." And I'm like icon_confused.gif


    This is why you train her to ask "but did Paul recommend it?" before agreeing to anything on the computer.

    Back to the smartphone question: there are some apps that are free but ad-supported, but all the ads I've seen are fairly unobtrusive. The app stores for both iPhones and Android phones are curated, so for the most part there's more wheat than chaff.