AT&T reportedly confirms iPhone launch in October. UPDATED: Information/rumors on 4G (LTE)

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    Aug 19, 2011 4:03 PM GMT
    http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20094613-1/at-t-reportedly-confirms-iphone-launch-in-october/
    CNET News, By: Roger Cheng, August 19, 2011

    An AT&T executive has confirmed to employees that the next iPhone will launch in early October, Boy Genius Report reported today.

    An AT&T vice president has reportedly warned employees to "expect things to get really, really busy in the next 35 to 50 days, so prepare your teams accordingly."

    An AT&T spokesman declined to comment.

    The BGR report is the latest indicator that the iPhone will come out later than previously expected. While the iPhone has traditionally come out at the beginning of summer each year, the latest version is launching much later than normal. Early reports had the phone launching anytime between September and October.

    But more recently, there have been a wave of reports suggesting an October launch target.

    The common speculation is that the next version of the iPhone will be unveiled in later September and hit stores in early October.

    The next iPhone is expected to launch with both AT&T and Verizon Wireless at the same time, giving the two carriers an equal footing for the first time. Both versions are also expected to work globally, according to a Verizon executive.
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    Aug 19, 2011 6:57 PM GMT
    Sprint pleaseeee. We all knew that was coming. I'm waiting on the arrival of a sprint iphone.
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    Aug 19, 2011 7:12 PM GMT
    swmrh911 saidSprint pleaseeee. We all knew that was coming. I'm waiting on the arrival of a sprint iphone.



    and the T-Mobile iPhone icon_cry.gif
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    Aug 19, 2011 7:51 PM GMT
    Regarding Sprint - whether or not the next iPhone will be 4G, I don't think Apple would want to introduce a phone with a carrier that will not be 4G compatible with most of the industry. Sprint is using WiMAX, while Verizon and AT&T use LTE. I think unless Sprint changes in the future, they will be odd man out.

    T-Mobile is more likely IMO. They use the same 3G standard as AT&T, but on different frequencies. (They also use the same 3.5G standard that their marketing is calling 4G.*) Adding the T-Mobile band would make sense regardless of whether the merger goes through. However, my hunch is they will not want to introduce the iPhone while the merger status remains undecided. It could undermine their argument that a merger would enable more models to be available to T-Mobile current subscribers.

    * That is a whole can of worms, not relevant to the discussion. HSPA+ has been considered 3.5G, but its data rates can be comparable with early LTE implementation. All that aside, LTE is the standard for AT&T, Verizon, and telcos in other countries. Sprint has indicated they may switch to LTE at some point.
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    Aug 19, 2011 9:20 PM GMT
    socalfitness said

    T-Mobile is more likely IMO. They use the same 3G standard as AT&T, but on different frequencies. (They also use the same 3.5G standard, that their marketing is calling 4G.*) Adding the T-Mobile band would make sense regardless of whether the merger goes through. However, my hunch is they will not want to introduce the iPhone while the merger status remains undecided. It could undermine their argument that a merger would enable more models to be available to T-Mobile current subscribers..


    Gosh, i hope so. My bf and i are both with T-Mobile, which is great for making calls and texting in or near the city (as opposed to what i hear from people with AT&T, regardless of the city they're in.) But the android phones we both have (Samsung Galaxy and the MyTouch) both have issues from time to time. It would also be so much easier to integrate our music, contacts, apps, etc if we had iphones...but we both have at least a year to go on out T-Mobile contracts and besides, we have really great rate plans and we're looking to see what happens with the merger.
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    Aug 19, 2011 9:29 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    swmrh911 saidSprint pleaseeee. We all knew that was coming. I'm waiting on the arrival of a sprint iphone.



    and the T-Mobile iPhone icon_cry.gif


    At this rate, I think your best bet for a T-Mobile iPhone is to hope the AT&T buyout goes through....
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    Aug 19, 2011 9:48 PM GMT
    Yus! Cannot wait to throw the biggest waste of money, aka Android, into fire so it can burn forever when I get the new iPhone.
  • somedaytoo

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    Aug 19, 2011 10:30 PM GMT
    Why bother, new Windows Phone hardware is coming around the same time too with a ton of new features.
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    Aug 19, 2011 10:32 PM GMT
    I'd love for Sprint to get the iPhone. I'm bored of my bb.
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    Aug 19, 2011 10:36 PM GMT
    somedaytoo saidWhy bother, new Windows Phone hardware is coming around the same time too with a ton of new features.

    New hardware versus several generations of the iPhone - doesn't mean Apple can't stumble, as they did with the antenna issue on the iPhone (not a big issue IMO BTW), but less likely it will be buggy compared to brand new HW. Also the number of applications for iPhone is for many a discriminator over Windows phones. Also, Windows SW for multiple platforms may have similar compatibility issues that Android users have faced.
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    Aug 19, 2011 10:54 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidless likely it will be buggy compared to brand new HW. Also the number of applications for iPhone is for many a discriminator over Windows phones. Also, Windows SW for multiple platforms may have similar compatibility issues that Android users have faced.


    It's amazing how Apple did an end around maneuver tactically with respect to Windows devices. While waging an upfront campaign on its laptops/desktops successfully, it was clear, from Apple's viewpoint, that it could never "catch up" given the number of laptop/desktop Windows users.

    Instead they scored a coup with the iPod and just when all the Windows people were scrambling to catch up on that, Apple saw that its Smartphone would make the iPod obsolete by cannibalizing that....for the iPhone.

    Then, the iPhone has stayed a step or two ahead of the competition (sorry, Android users, it's true...a great product, but still lagging, IMHO) in the smartphone business. Suddenly, the iMac has become a big seller, and the laptops are getting more elegant and then what....

    ...the iPad and the iPad2. This undercuts many users from needing laptops...since, arguably, most laptop users really don't need a computer, but something to surf the web, show movies, word process etc.

    I suspect that the innovation in design marked by the transition from clunky to elegant with the iPad2, will be paralleled by what's about to happen with the iPhone5.

    I agree with social that like any company Apple can stumble. It can get arrogant and sit on its laurels, but, darn, it clearly has not done so in the last 10 years.
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    Aug 21, 2011 7:31 PM GMT

    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/08/21/4g_lte_test_code_uncovered_in_developer_builds_of_ios_5.html

    Evidence that Apple has built 4G Long-Term Evolution testing code into beta builds of iOS 5 has been uncovered, prompting further speculation that the iPhone maker will adopt the standard in future versions of its mobile devices.

    Earlier this week, a rumor emerged that Apple's carrier partners have begun testing an iPhone prototype with LTE, based in part on code reportedly from an internal iOS test build that was sent to "one of Apple's major carrier partners." That code has now been found in recent builds of iOS 5 issued to developers.

    MacRumors reports that GSM iPhone 4 and CDMA iPad 2 builds of iOS 5 contain an LTE.plist file with a "key" tag for a "Connected mode LTE Intra-frequency Measurement." However, the file is not found in other "counterpart" versions of iOS 5 and has only been located in "at least the last couple" of beta builds of the forthcoming upgrade.

    LTE is the 4G network standard of choice for carriers such as Verizon and AT&T, with real-world data rates of between 5 and 12 megabits per second downstream, and 2 to 5 Mbps up. Verizon launched its network first late last year, while AT&T plans to reach 70 million customers in 15 markets by the end of 2011.

    Forbes reported last Friday that Apple is looking for field test engineers with LTE experience on the LinkedIn career networking site. The company seeks "Quality Assurance engineers" to join its "iOS Quality team" to test the functionality of telephony features such as the phone, SMS and data on the iPhone.

    Though rumors have suggested that Apple's partners are testing LTE iOS devices, separate reports claim LTE technologies will not be ready for Apple to mass produce until at least 2012. Qualcomm's LTE chips are said to be experiencing problems with "yield rates" that will prevent Apple from implementing them this year.

    Last week, spy shots allegedly showing LTE equipment being installed at a "major" Apple Store followed on the heels of the rumor that Apple's carrier partners have been testing an LTE-capable iPhone. The leaked photos drew speculation that Apple was improving LTE signals in its stores ahead of the release of some kind of LTE-compatible device from the company.

    It should be noted that there has yet to emerge any strong evidence that Apple will include LTE in the fifth-generation iPhone, which is expected this fall. Apple Chief Operating Officer Tim Cook said in April that "the first generation of LTE chipsets force a lot of design compromises with the handset," some of which the company is unwilling to make.

    Executives from Verizon and China Mobile have hinted that Apple is planning an LTE iPhone, but have been unable to provide further details.
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:31 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidRegarding Sprint - whether or not the next iPhone will be 4G, I don't think Apple would want to introduce a phone with a carrier that will not be 4G compatible with most of the industry. Sprint is using WiMAX, while Verizon and AT&T use LTE. I think unless Sprint changes in the future, they will be odd man out.

    Rumors about Sprint getting the iPhone, so I may have missed this one.
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:41 AM GMT
    Any idea when (or if) the merger between T-Mobile & AT&T is suppose to happen. I want an iPhone, but I am not switching from T-Mobile to AT&T to get one
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:50 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidAny idea when (or if) the merger between T-Mobile & AT&T is suppose to happen. I want an iPhone, but I am not switching from T-Mobile to AT&T to get one


    That'll take a few moments at the last. I won't expect the merger to be finalized until at least mid 2012!

    And I cannot wait for the new phone! My T-Mobile contract ends in early September and I've been DYING to get rid of the piece of shit called Android.
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:58 AM GMT
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