Texas governor and Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry wants to change the constitution.

  • DrobUA

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    Aug 20, 2011 5:48 AM GMT
    Article: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/seven-ways-rick-perry-wants-change-constitution-131634517.html

    6. The federal Constitution should define marriage as between one man and one woman in all 50 states.
    Despite saying last month that he was "fine with" states like New York allowing gay marriage, Perry has now said he supports a constitutional amendment that would permanently ban gay marriage throughout the country and overturn any state laws that define marriage beyond a relationship between one man and one woman.
    "I do respect a state's right to have a different opinion and take a different tack if you will, California did that," Perry told the Christian Broadcasting Network in August. "I respect that right, but our founding fathers also said, 'Listen, if you all in the future think things are so important that you need to change the Constitution here's the way you do it'.
    In an interview with The Ticket earlier this month, Perry spokeswoman Katherine Cesinger said that even though it would overturn laws in several states, the amendment still fits into Perry's broader philosophy because amendments require the ratification of three-fourths of the states to be added to the Constitution.
    7. Abortion should be made illegal throughout the country.
    Like the gay marriage issue, Perry at one time believed that abortion policy should be left to the states, as was the case before the 1973 Supreme Court case Roe v. Wade. But in the same Christian Broadcasting Network interview, Perry said that he would support a federal amendment outlawing abortion because it was "so important...to the soul of this country and to the traditional values [of] our founding fathers."
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    Aug 20, 2011 2:36 PM GMT
    Perry will say whatever it takes to get elected. He is a ruthless, career politician. He often says one thing then back peddles and takes a 180 degree turn in position. Typical Perry. We have seen it here in Texas for years.
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    Aug 20, 2011 2:40 PM GMT
    So it's theoretically still possible for Perry to be a Democrat again? icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 20, 2011 2:41 PM GMT
    jprichva saidNeither of which are going to happen, but it's useful to know what they think.

    Oh, I wonder. US Constitutional amendment ratification is decided State-by-State. And the time limit is not defined, though recent custom is for Congress to set a 7 year period. But for a Republican Congress determining the issue on gay marriage & abortion, it could just as well be 20, the Constitution itself doesn't say.

    And in those intervening years, the anti-gay money will hammer away at State after State. Just like they did with State Constitutional amendments in California & Maine, 2 supposedly "liberal" States that voted against gay marriage. If they can win over those States with outside campaigners, money & lies, what about the Red States?

    Furthermore, once a State ratifies an amendment it stays ratified, as far as I know (citation needed, but I'm don't think a ratification has ever been withdrawn or is permitted). But the 7-year limit (or more) does allow for retries. It can be attempted year after year, until a State is won over.

    This allows the anti-gay forces to use a Principle of War (that I used to teach), known as "Mass." If you don't have an overwhelming superiority, you attack targets piecemeal with massed strength, avoiding a more widespread confrontation that would spread you too thin. You whittle your enemy down, little by little, gaining ground all the time. That is exactly the tactic Republicans are using against us, I recognize it instantly.

    So that I can't share your optimism about an anti-gay marriage US Constitutional amendment. An activist minority has passed US amendments before that the majority did not support (the Eighteenth Amendment creating Prohibition being a prime example), and our system really has no safeguards against it.
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    Aug 20, 2011 4:08 PM GMT
    Perry is a nut job. He won't get far.
  • rnch

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    Aug 20, 2011 4:24 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidPerry is a nut job. He won't get far.



    his cocky, "fighter pilot past his prime" attitude reminds me of a Dummer Dubja.


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  • GQjock

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    Aug 20, 2011 8:03 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidPerry is a nut jobicon_eek.gif. He won't get far.


    One name ....... George W Bush

    Nutjob that we ...... Well elected once
  • Bigolbear

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    Aug 23, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidPerry is a nut job. He won't get far.


    Don't underestimate his appeal. It's all about grabbing center and he can do that.
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    Aug 25, 2011 7:18 PM GMT


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    Aug 25, 2011 7:52 PM GMT
    Perry is now the clear frontunner for the Repub nomination.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gallup-perry-leading-nationally-romney-second-paul-third-212542697.html

    God help us!