Bachmann or Perry: which will become the GOP Presidential candidate....and why?

  • rnch

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    Aug 20, 2011 12:43 PM GMT
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    Aug 20, 2011 12:45 PM GMT
    I think neither one will be the GOP candidate. Romney will be the man.
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    Aug 20, 2011 1:22 PM GMT
    vincent7 saidI think neither one will be the GOP candidate. Romney will be the man.


    Agreed.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 20, 2011 8:56 PM GMT
    I absolutely do not think Bachmann will even get close, and Perry will likely start to self-destruct as people get to know more about him. I just don't think America is ready for another President from Texas yet. I still think there are a few surprises in store who will enter the race -- Sarah Palin, Chris Christie, Paul Ryan perhaps -- that will turn the whole campaign upside down. If this happens, it's anyone's guess as to what could happen. I honestly think Chris Christie could ignite some real fire that is seemingly lacking right now, and say what you want about Sarah Palin but her entering the race would have a huge effect, though I'm not convinced she can get the nomination. My prediction is that in the end Mitt Romney will get the nomination, and I'd bet money Paul Ryan will be his V.P. pick, unless, of course there is a significantly huge showing by Christie or Palin.
  • conservativej...

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    Aug 20, 2011 10:18 PM GMT
    Perry, with Cain as the Vice Presidential candidate.
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    Aug 20, 2011 11:35 PM GMT
    If someone like Romney doesn't get the nomination and for some crazy reason Perry, Bachmann or Palin gets it, then the world will be in absolute disbelief as to what has become of American politics and you can kiss "AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM" good damn bye !!! I'll even go one step further, you can kiss the dollars dominance in the world good bye too !!! Faith in the stability of America will go out the window !!!! Surely you conservatives have got better sense than what its looking like right now.
  • Lincsbear

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    Aug 20, 2011 11:42 PM GMT
    Agreed.If Bachmann,Perry,or Palin gets the Republican nomination Britain will be caught between disbelief,dismay,and derision.
    But most likely Romney will get it.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 20, 2011 11:53 PM GMT
    realifedad said If someone like Romney doesn't get the nomination and for some crazy reason Perry, Bachmann or Palin gets it, then the world will be in absolute disbelief as to what has become of American politics and you can kiss "AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM" good damn bye !!! I'll even go one step further, you can kiss the dollars dominance in the world good bye too !!! Faith in the stability of America will go out the window !!!! Surely you conservatives have got better sense than what its looking like right now.



    I'm not quite the doomsday type as some of you are. You have to look at it this way, IF one of the above that you fear so badly were to get the nomination and win the Presidency, that would mean that is the person who America voted for. Just because you think it's the worst thing that could happen to America doesn't necessarily mean it would be. It's not exactly any small thing or easy task to ascend to the Presidency of the United States, so whoever would have managed to accomplished that would have done so with a great deal of backing and faith behind them.
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    Aug 21, 2011 2:45 AM GMT
    Its the 'idiocy' that backed them to even get this far that is whats frightening, let alone the idea that such as them could become president because of the idiot religious sheeples who seem beguiled into following anyone wearing the 'jesus' told me to run for office label.

    Its amazing to me that you CuriousJ can be so non-challant about these religious nuts gaining popularity. Read history, "he who forgets history is condemned to repeat it", religion and politics has always been a disasterous mixture.
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    Aug 21, 2011 3:09 AM GMT
    The GOP is a much more tightly rigged operation than the DNC tends to be.

    There is a sort of a "pecking order" that is based upon some combination of merit, seniority, and family connections, and sheer outright wealth (as a
    factor of being able to finance one's own campaign more than his primary competition, thus saving the big money for campaigning against Obama in ye general election)

    This is why (as nice as it would be) folks like Ron Paul or Fred Karger will NEVER get the GOP nomination.

    Backroom deals are being made if they havent already been made, where some candidates will become stalking horses for others in primary states that they could not otherwise win in (consider how Fred Thompson spoiled the primary vote for Huckabee in South Carolina for John McCain - and McCain wouldn't really have needed Fred's help, but by utterly crushing Huckabee, it gave McCain the momentum he needed to roll up a lot of the high population Southern states and eat into Huckabee's strongholds in the Bible Belt.

    The same sort of thing will shape up in 2012, though it might not be entirely clear who is stalking the horse for whom.

    Romney is the very likely nominee by virtue of merit, family connections, and party "seniority".

    Mitt is a well known and tenured former governor of Massachusetts, a member of a GOP dynastic family - his father, George Romney, was Michigan Gov. a few generations ago and a presidential contender in the 1964 primary against Barry Goldwater, and with his relative success against McCain in 2008, he selection as the 2012 nominee is all but a fait accompli.

    It is just a matter of how the other candidates will bargain for positions in a potential Romney administration.

    I could see a Romney/Pawlenty ticket, or god forbid, a Romney/Bachmann ticket which would rein in any craziness from the fundamentalists on the "Mormon Question", as well as attempt to toss a bone to the Tea Party.
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    Aug 21, 2011 3:17 AM GMT
    Side note on Ron Paul:

    I support Dr. Paul full well knowing that it is virtually impossible for him to win - the caveat is by how close of margin of loss will determine to what degree that small gov't/libertarian positions will be considered by the GOP.

    If Dr Paul takes several dozen small states and one or two of the medium sized states (in terms of convention seats) it gives proportional significance to libertarians/moderates/Goldwater conservatives when the convention is seated.
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    Aug 22, 2011 1:44 PM GMT
    As painful as it is to say this I think that if someone else dynamic doesn't enter the race Perry will be the candidate. Bachmann will not make it.

    I just have a hard time believing that Romney will actually be the one.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Aug 22, 2011 3:43 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidAs painful as it is to say this I think that if someone else dynamic doesn't enter the race Perry will be the candidate. Bachmann will not make it.

    I just have a hard time believing that Romney will actually be the one.




    I think once Perry's enemies get into "attack mode" Perry may likely go down in flames. Meanwhile, Mitt Romney is still one of the squeakiest clean politicians there is. They can attack him all they want for his flip-flopping (what politican hasn't done that anyway?) but when it comes to Family values and other important issues to American voters, Romney should hold his own against Perry.
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    Aug 22, 2011 4:40 PM GMT
    I want Paul Ryan to run.
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    Aug 22, 2011 5:11 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidI want Paul Ryan to run.




    The thing with Paul Ryan is that his budget plan has backfired on him and became an issue that republicans running in special elections lost based on their vote for it. His gutting social security medicare plan isn't even popular with most republicans from what I understand. He's a descent guy but that budget deal of his is like poison to the elderly and those anywhere near retirement age.
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    Aug 24, 2011 5:31 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidI want Paul Ryan to run.



    I don't think Paul Ryan will run, but he would be an excellent V.P. choice. After watching interviews with Jon Huntsman the past 2 nights on Piers Morgan, he would get my vote if the election were held tomorrow.
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    Aug 24, 2011 6:21 AM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidI want Paul Ryan to run.



    I don't think Paul Ryan will run, but he would be an excellent V.P. choice. After watching interviews with Jon Huntsman the past 2 nights on Piers Morgan, he would get my vote if the election were held tomorrow.


    We have two votes for Huntsman - you and me.

    I don't know if you ever watched the four-part interview with Jon Huntsman Sr and Glenn Beck about a year ago? Jon Huntsman Jr has some real good DNA, except for the cancer that's gotten every member of his family including his dad three times.