Barebacking...

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    Aug 21, 2011 9:07 PM GMT
    Recently I've either been approached or it comes up in conversations that take a sexual turn - usually on GRINDR or its clones - if I would be willing to fuck them raw (bareback/no condom).

    Now I gotta wonder - what is in it for the bottom that getting fucked w/o a condom? I gotta admit, that's a bit scary that a lot if guys seem to want it raw like that...

    As a top I can understand why "it might feel better", but would that be as much of a factor for a bottom to play unsafely?
  • HopefulMuscle

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    Aug 21, 2011 10:16 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidRecently I've either been approached or it comes up in conversations that take a sexual turn - usually on GRINDR or its clones - if I would be willing to fuck them raw (bareback/no condom).

    Now I gotta wonder - what is in it for the bottom that getting fucked w/o a condom? I gotta admit, that's a bit scary that a lot if guys seem to want it raw like that...

    As a top I can understand why "it might feel better", but would that be as much of a factor for a bottom to play unsafely?


    I honestly think it acts as a extra turnon for the bottom, to know that at any time the top can shoot a load inside the bttms ass, I was the raw bttm only once and while I enjoyed every bit of the sex I knew I cant put myself at risk thereafter, with the scare of HIV and STDs I am very fortunate to come out clean.
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    Aug 23, 2011 8:41 AM GMT
    I honestly think the 'extra' enjoyment is mainly psychological. You can feel it when he cums but it doesn't make that much difference up until that point and as for doing it casually, I just don't know why you would - the reason it feels good is mainly because it makes you feel closer and more intimate with your man, the physical sensation in comparison is tiny and I just don't understand why anyone would do it casually.
  • Latenight30

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    Aug 23, 2011 11:17 AM GMT
    Most "tops" can't stay hard in a condom and as a bottom hanging out with your knees to your ears it's a little bit of a let down.
    And yeah it feels better.
    Would you stick a foreign object in your eye to make it feel better or your finger??
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    Aug 23, 2011 12:30 PM GMT
    Pure saidI honestly think the 'extra' enjoyment is mainly psychological. You can feel it when he cums but it doesn't make that much difference up until that point and as for doing it casually, I just don't know why you would - the reason it feels good is mainly because it makes you feel closer and more intimate with your man, the physical sensation in comparison is tiny and I just don't understand why anyone would do it casually.




    again, i quite agree with you!


    i've only barebacked with one man (my current long term bf); even though he forcefully jizzes i have never "felt" his jizz pulsating into me. a bttm "feels" little, if any, differnce between a condom covered penis and a raw one.

    when the top wears a condom, it IS much easier of a clean up for the bttm.

    but ah yes, the intamacy and trust factor is so much higher when barebacking.
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    Aug 23, 2011 12:54 PM GMT
    rnch saidi've only barebacked with one man (my current long term bf); even though he forcefully jizzes i have never "felt" his jizz pulsating into me. a bttm "feels" little, if any, differnce between a condom covered penis and a raw one.

    when the top wears a condom, it IS much easier of a clean up for the bttm.

    but ah yes, the intamacy and trust factor is so much higher when barebacking.


    Oh I have definitely felt it, it feels like an extra little 'push' in there, but since it's over in seconds and then is more of a hassle to clean up, I really don't see what the big deal is. We only bareback occasionally, a lot of the time still use condoms.
  • rnch

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    Aug 23, 2011 1:05 PM GMT
    Pure said...Oh I have definitely felt it, it feels like an extra little 'push' in there, but since it's over in seconds and then is more of a hassle to clean up, I really don't see what the big deal is. We only bareback occasionally, a lot of the time still use condoms.


    i've often felt my bf forcefully jizz and pulsate in my mouth; but not as of yet in my anus.


    nor has he felt me in his.

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  • gymnewby1983

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    Aug 25, 2011 2:59 AM GMT
    The feeling is better for me since I seem to be very sensitive to latex... even with plenty of lube.
    I did it with my ex bf of 3 years and we were both tested regularly for other health reasons (digestive issues on my part, working with children on his).
    Since then I never felt as good during sex and I know for a fact it's due to the condom.
    Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy it A LOT, but it's not the same.
    Plus... it's a lot more intimate I think.
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    Sep 03, 2014 2:26 PM GMT
    I use to bareback all the time growing up, but that was with a guy i knew and before the outbreak of HIV and AIDS.
    We would get together often two to three times a week and play around, he was my serious friend at the time and I can say we loved each other, it was the feeling of a raw cock sliding inland out of the ass, and feeling that pulsing cock dump the load.
    It wasn't till years later when we learned about HIV and AIDS, I was in the Army and he was in the Air force...

    He died from pnuemo in 89 , yes. Complications from AIDS, but me I'm still disease free, just got checked last month.

    So yes now a days its important to use condoms.
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    Sep 03, 2014 11:14 PM GMT
    It feels better to both the top and the bottom. Plus there is a friction issue that's present with a condom. Condoms wrinkle and irritate the lining of the anus much quicker than skin on skin. This is why I prefer female condoms, as they feel better to the top and the bottom as they don't slide around as much.
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    Sep 09, 2014 9:31 AM GMT
    some guys get clucky i guess
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    Sep 09, 2014 1:46 PM GMT
    Ratboy saidI use to bareback all the time growing up, but that was with a guy i knew and before the outbreak of HIV and AIDS.
    We would get together often two to three times a week and play around, he was my serious friend at the time and I can say we loved each other, it was the feeling of a raw cock sliding inland out of the ass, and feeling that pulsing cock dump the load.
    It wasn't till years later when we learned about HIV and AIDS, I was in the Army and he was in the Air force...

    He died from pnuemo in 89 , yes. Complications from AIDS, but me I'm still disease free, just got checked last month.

    So yes now a days its important to use condoms.


    I'm amazed at the number of stories that you tell about having unprotected sex with HIV poz guys yet still remaining neg. Can you go buy me a lottery ticket?
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    Sep 09, 2014 4:42 PM GMT
    The risk factor is a turn on and the cum feels real good in the ass. Especially when it drips out a little at a time.
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    Sep 09, 2014 7:35 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidIt feels better for both partners.

    As a receiver, I can tell a difference and as far as not wearing a condom when I top. I think the increase in pleasure is just the same.

    Have you ever hugged someone with clothes on and then hugged that person naked and realized how much better it felt?

    Or also, try getting a massage while the therapist wears latex gloves. Then have him/her take them off during in the middle of the session and you will be able to tell the difference just from being touched on your body.

    Skin on skin contact feels the best. But I am not advocating it when it comes to anal sex.


    Much thanks for the honesty and for younger RJ men it is not worth the risk oh HIV. It is no picnic. I volunteered at GMHC in NYC. I heard too many stories of regret sadness and hopelessness and how will they pay for treatments and the worry every time they get sick. Not worth it. I always wear a condom for anal..always. Men in relationships, that is your choice but most men break up because one has cheated!
    There are ultra thin condoms out there too.
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    Sep 09, 2014 10:04 PM GMT
    MakarOO5 saidThe risk factor is a turn on and the cum feels real good in the ass. Especially when it drips out a little at a time.


    Is getting AIDS really worth feeling cum drip out of your ass for that entire 2 seconds?
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    Sep 13, 2014 9:34 PM GMT
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    Ratboy saidI use to bareback all the time growing up, but that was with a guy i knew and before the outbreak of HIV and AIDS.
    We would get together often two to three times a week and play around, he was my serious friend at the time and I can say we loved each other, it was the feeling of a raw cock sliding inland out of the ass, and feeling that pulsing cock dump the load.
    It wasn't till years later when we learned about HIV and AIDS, I was in the Army and he was in the Air force...

    He died from pnuemo in 89 , yes. Complications from AIDS, but me I'm still disease free, just got checked last month.

    So yes now a days its important to use condoms.


    I'm amazed at the number of stories that you tell about having unprotected sex with HIV poz guys yet still remaining neg. Can you go buy me a lottery ticket?


    Since you wrote this about an ADVOCATE article I posted:
    Why hasn't someone reported this piece of crap to the monitors so that the thread can be removed? I find it ridiculous that such information can be posted here when we all know the dangers of Hiv."

    It appears your lottery approach and dismissal of anything scientific tells me your "knowledge" of HIV is suspect and lacking.
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    Sep 14, 2014 3:13 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidIt feels better for both partners.

    As a receiver, I can tell a difference and as far as not wearing a condom when I top. I think the increase in pleasure is just the same.

    Have you ever hugged someone with clothes on and then hugged that person naked and realized how much better it felt?

    Or also, try getting a massage while the therapist wears latex gloves. Then have him/her take them off during in the middle of the session and you will be able to tell the difference just from being touched on your body.

    Skin on skin contact feels the best. But I am not advocating it when it comes to anal sex.


    Meanwhile, the dunces on another topic are claiming you said the opposite.
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    Sep 14, 2014 5:09 PM GMT
    It never cease to amaze me,the attitudes of gay men towards high risk sexual activity such ad bare backing. Dot you all get it??? STI and particularly HIV infections are high because some people believe the Bullshit claims of sociopathic men who loudly advocate to the blissfully ignorant that bareback feels different or so called allergies exist to latex.

    Please stop spreading this crap people and look at these facts

    1. There are so very few that would have an actual allergy to latex and the Availability of alternative material condoms means your argument null and void. If u have one of these allergies for real you have the obligation to ensure you work with the alternatives to barebacking

    2. These Jaded and worn out bottom guys who claim things that are purely psychological as being physiological need to say it how it is. Your right to go bareback should coincide with your obligation to stop telling others your fantasy is more than it is

    3. The idea that condoms are not infallible is true but very minor next to the risk of none at all with any partner who is not monogamous to you and who's status is confirmed including window period prior to you decision to bareback

    This is not a game this is real life guys. I support the right of you bareback advocates to poet your BS as I feel that if your lies are challenge things are more Likely to change but I wish that you would see what you are doing to yourself and others
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    Sep 14, 2014 8:16 PM GMT
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    Blondizgd said
    Ratboy saidI use to bareback all the time growing up, but that was with a guy i knew and before the outbreak of HIV and AIDS.
    We would get together often two to three times a week and play around, he was my serious friend at the time and I can say we loved each other, it was the feeling of a raw cock sliding inland out of the ass, and feeling that pulsing cock dump the load.
    It wasn't till years later when we learned about HIV and AIDS, I was in the Army and he was in the Air force...

    He died from pnuemo in 89 , yes. Complications from AIDS, but me I'm still disease free, just got checked last month.

    So yes now a days its important to use condoms.


    I'm amazed at the number of stories that you tell about having unprotected sex with HIV poz guys yet still remaining neg. Can you go buy me a lottery ticket?


    Since you wrote this about an ADVOCATE article I posted:
    Why hasn't someone reported this piece of crap to the monitors so that the thread can be removed? I find it ridiculous that such information can be posted here when we all know the dangers of Hiv."

    It appears your lottery approach and dismissal of anything scientific tells me your "knowledge" of HIV is suspect and lacking.


    I do know, contracting HIV is a life changer
    I do know, dealing with HIV is not a walk in the park
    I do know HIV kills
    I do know that you must be a psycho to encourage men to bareback

    Want to debate me on any of these?
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    Sep 14, 2014 8:42 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidIt feels better for both partners.

    As a receiver, I can tell a difference and as far as not wearing a condom when I top. I think the increase in pleasure is just the same.

    Have you ever hugged someone with clothes on and then hugged that person naked and realized how much better it felt?

    Or also, try getting a massage while the therapist wears latex gloves. Then have him/her take them off during in the middle of the session and you will be able to tell the difference just from being touched on your body.

    Skin on skin contact feels the best. But I am not advocating it when it comes to anal sex.


    God you are such twisted manipulater... You admit you have bareback sex because it feels better EVEN WITH YOU TOPPING WITH HIV and then you end your diatribe with "But I am not advocating it when it comes to anal sex".

    We all know your fucking story and your dark intentions. I logged onto this website because you asked a specific question about PREP/Truvada and I gave the statistics given by a doctor on The Body website and you insulted me by saying my kidney disease came from alcohol when my doctors have ALL confirmed it came from Truvada. But your intention is to shove a pill down everyone's throat that over a twenty year period will cause forty percent to have chronic kidney disease. Why did you do it, because YOU LOVE the idea of bareback sex.

    I don't care that you blocked me because you are a pathetic example to the gay community.
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    Sep 14, 2014 11:38 PM GMT
    The reality is that when it comes to sex people don't make rational, logical decisions. Which is why education alone doesn't work. It helps. Condoms help. But the reality is, sex is an animal drive that is not necessarily something that all of us can control and use responsibility all of the time. Blaming people who occasionally make a poor decision sheen it comes to their sex life is like blaming someone who eats an occasional donut.
    Add in the fact that decisions surrounding sex are often made while under the influence of various chemicals and it increases the chances if poor decisions with bad consequences. We can either deal with the world and make policies based in how it is (people often make irrational decisions that put their health at risk) or we can live in a fantasy world where people only make good decisions.
    The latter leads to slut shaming and an unending pandemic. Using all tools to end HIV (testing, education, condoms AND Truvada) is the best decision.
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    Sep 14, 2014 11:42 PM GMT
    Blondizgd said


    I do know, contracting HIV is a life changer
    I do know, dealing with HIV is not a walk in the park
    I do know HIV kills
    I do know that you must be a psycho to encourage men to bareback

    Want to debate me on any of these?


    1. True
    2. True
    3. It does still kill. It doesn't have to. Mostly AIDS cases are late stage diagnosis. Why do people fear to get tested?
    Test. Test. Test. If negative stay that way by condoms, PrEP or less risky sex. If you turn up POZ go on ART Therapy....NOW.
    4. And you must be living in a fucking fairy tale if you don't know people are having risky sex! Acknowledging it exists is not the same thing as encouraging it. 47% use condoms. A minority. That's the reality we all need to deal with in any meaningful debate/solution.

    Who can bareback? Certainly it's not for you to decide. A monogamous Neg couple? I would say it's up to them, if tested twice in 6 months before. Yes.

    An undetectable couple? Again it's up to them.

    Two 21 year old gay boys who were tested 6 or 10 months ago, or never tested but say they are DDF? HELL NO!

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    Sep 14, 2014 11:44 PM GMT
    Wyndahoi saidThe reality is that when it comes to sex people don't make rational, logical decisions. Which is why education alone doesn't work. It helps. Condoms help. But the reality is, sex is an animal drive that is not necessarily something that all of us can control and use responsibility all of the time. Blaming people who occasionally make a poor decision sheen it comes to their sex life is like blaming someone who eats an occasional donut.
    Add in the fact that decisions surrounding sex are often made while under the influence of various chemicals and it increases the chances if poor decisions with bad consequences. We can either deal with the world and make policies based in how it is (people often make irrational decisions that put their health at risk) or we can live in a fantasy world where people only make good decisions.
    The latter leads to slut shaming and an unending pandemic. Using all tools to end HIV (testing, education, condoms AND Truvada) is the best decision.


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    Sep 15, 2014 1:39 AM GMT
    Wyndahoi saidThe reality is that when it comes to sex people don't make rational, logical decisions. Which is why education alone doesn't work. It helps. Condoms help. But the reality is, sex is an animal drive that is not necessarily something that all of us can control and use responsibility all of the time. Blaming people who occasionally make a poor decision sheen it comes to their sex life is like blaming someone who eats an occasional donut.
    Add in the fact that decisions surrounding sex are often made while under the influence of various chemicals and it increases the chances if poor decisions with bad consequences. We can either deal with the world and make policies based in how it is (people often make irrational decisions that put their health at risk) or we can live in a fantasy world where people only make good decisions.
    The latter leads to slut shaming and an unending pandemic. Using all tools to end HIV (testing, education, condoms AND Truvada) is the best decision.


    THIS. And remembering that none of the above tools are foolproof.
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    Sep 15, 2014 11:37 PM GMT
    It feels a lot better, Ive had alot of trouble bottoming. People kept telling me i'd get used to it and adjust, and it never happened. I have a very tiny frame and waist for someone my size, i dont know if this plays a role. It doesn't hurt like it used to the first few times but it often stings and after the sting is gone its almost like I'm always consciosu of some kind of terrible friction, even when they go slow and i'm generously lubed.

    Once I was with my ex for a while we barebacked and the pain went away and It was pure bliss.


    But i wouldnt recommend it if you aren't in a LTR relationship with someone who that is std/hiv free