Myth debunked: second study confirms bisexuality is real

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    Aug 23, 2011 6:18 PM GMT
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/23/health/23bisexual.html?_r=2

    The New York Times

    The finding is not likely to surprise bisexuals, who have long asserted that attraction often is not limited to one sex. But for many years the question of bisexuality has bedeviled scientists. A widely publicized study published in 2005, also by researchers at Northwestern, reported that “with respect to sexual arousal and attraction, it remains to be shown that male bisexuality exists.”

    That conclusion outraged bisexual men and women, who said it appeared to support a stereotype of bisexual men as closeted homosexuals.

    In the new study, published online in the journal Biological Psychology, the researchers relied on more stringent criteria for selecting participants...

    In both studies, men watched videos of male and female same-sex intimacy while genital sensors monitored their erectile responses. While the first study reported that the bisexuals generally resembled homosexuals in their responses, the new one finds that bisexual men responded to both the male and female videos, while gay and straight men in the study did not.

    Both studies also found that bisexuals reported subjective arousal to both sexes, notwithstanding their genital responses. “Someone who is bisexual might say, ‘Well, duh!’” said Allen Rosenthal, the lead author of the new Northwestern study and a doctoral student in psychology at the university. “But this will be validating to a lot of bisexual men who had heard about the earlier work and felt that scientists weren’t getting them.”

    The Northwestern study is the second one published this year to report a distinctive pattern of sexual arousal among bisexual men.

    Dr. Lisa Diamond, a psychology professor at the University of Utah and an expert on sexual orientation, said that the two new studies, taken together, represented a significant step toward demonstrating that bisexual men do have specific arousal patterns.

    “I’ve interviewed a lot of individuals about how invalidating it is when their own family members think they’re confused or going through a stage or in denial,” she said. “These converging lines of evidence, using different methods and stimuli, give us the scientific confidence to say this is something real.”
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    Aug 23, 2011 6:20 PM GMT
    Apologies accepted.
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    Aug 23, 2011 6:36 PM GMT
    You mean I can tear up my "gold card" and get the platinum finally?icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 23, 2011 6:39 PM GMT
    Sweet. I get to tear up my cold card in the name of science. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 23, 2011 6:48 PM GMT
    It's a conspiracy. These studies must be funded by the "bi-sexuals"...lol.
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    Aug 23, 2011 6:52 PM GMT
    These studies are just convenient excuses to put "sensors" on men's dicks.
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    Aug 23, 2011 6:57 PM GMT
    I guess my 23 year old bisexual friend with the dominant, abusive girlfriend can continue sucking dicks and getting fucked by his older wealthy producer "friend".
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    Aug 23, 2011 6:59 PM GMT
    I don't doubt that bisexuality exists but the label gets thrown around by too many gay men who are struggling with accepting the fact that they don't like women. I dated a guy like this once - it was a fucking disaster.

    It's these people who ruin the label (if you must have one) for the men and women are are legitimately attracted to both sexes.
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    Aug 23, 2011 7:01 PM GMT
    k3l3k0 saidI don't doubt that bisexuality exists but the label gets thrown around by too many gay men who are struggling with accepting the fact that they don't like women. I dated a guy like this once - it was a fucking disaster.

    It's these people who ruin the label (if you must have one) for the men and women are are legitimately attracted to both sexes.



    That's it, we need a certification system.

    Please start sending in your platinum bi-card applications and $150 processing fee.
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    Aug 23, 2011 7:07 PM GMT
    The goal of science is not to "prove" anything. No amount of research will ever prove something is true.

    Its about justifying a claim. There is not enough evidence on Bisexuality to say, especially with them citing one negative and one positive study.

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    Aug 23, 2011 7:09 PM GMT
    As Martha Wash says: "No apology from me no! "Carry On"!
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    Aug 23, 2011 7:30 PM GMT
    One flaw though: Sure they may be turned on by both sexes but the minute you are dating/banging/committed to someone of the same sex you are no longer bisexual - plain as day homosexual nature.
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    Aug 23, 2011 7:48 PM GMT
    kuroshiro saidOne flaw though: Sure they may be turned on by both sexes but the minute you are dating/banging/committed to someone of the same sex you are no longer bisexual - plain as day homosexual nature.


    So, if they commit to a woman then they're suddenly straight?
    lol, they're still bisexuals.

    Bisexuals have gay relationships and straight relationships, depending on who they fall for. As well, there are also many many many degrees of bisexuality.

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    Aug 23, 2011 7:51 PM GMT
    How do they differentiate arousal based on sexual orientation vs something else though?
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    Aug 23, 2011 8:01 PM GMT
    kuroshiro saidOne flaw though: Sure they may be turned on by both sexes but the minute you are dating/banging/committed to someone of the same sex you are no longer bisexual - plain as day homosexual nature.
    In my experience dating two different bisexuals (at two different times), they both STILL claimed bisexuality even though we were "committed."
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    Aug 23, 2011 8:03 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    kuroshiro saidOne flaw though: Sure they may be turned on by both sexes but the minute you are dating/banging/committed to someone of the same sex you are no longer bisexual - plain as day homosexual nature.


    So, if they commit to a woman then they're suddenly straight?
    lol, they're still bisexuals.

    Bisexuals have gay relationships and straight relationships, depending on who they fall for. As well, there are also many many many degrees of bisexuality.



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    Aug 23, 2011 8:07 PM GMT
    Wait a minute!

    You mean a guy can be attracted to both men and women?

    Who would've ever thought!?!?!?!?!
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    Aug 23, 2011 8:08 PM GMT
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    kuroshiro saidOne flaw though: Sure they may be turned on by both sexes but the minute you are dating/banging/committed to someone of the same sex you are no longer bisexual - plain as day homosexual nature.
    In my experience dating two different bisexuals (at two different times), they both STILL claimed bisexuality even though we were "committed."


    Except that logic is bizarre. If you are "bisexual" and have actively been in relationships with both men and women and you settle down with a man, you are therefore homosexual and living a gay lifestyle... there's no way around that. If you settle down with a woman, you are heterosexual. You can't claim to be bisexual if you are with someone you care about and love. I can't see a guy being with another guy talking about banging chicks... that's just messed up for either sex.
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    Aug 23, 2011 8:08 PM GMT
    Halfstep saidWait a minute!

    You mean a guy can be attracted to both men and women?

    Who would've ever thought!?!?!?!?!


    Dude we all ready said that this research was biased, it was most likely funded by these "bisexuals" that it tries to prove exist.
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    Aug 23, 2011 8:11 PM GMT
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    kuroshiro saidOne flaw though: Sure they may be turned on by both sexes but the minute you are dating/banging/committed to someone of the same sex you are no longer bisexual - plain as day homosexual nature.
    In my experience dating two different bisexuals (at two different times), they both STILL claimed bisexuality even though we were "committed."


    Except that logic is bizarre. If you are "bisexual" and have actively been in relationships with both men and women and you settle down with a man, you are therefore homosexual and living a gay lifestyle... there's no way around that. If you settle down with a woman, you are heterosexual. You can't claim to be bisexual if you are with someone you care about and love. I can't see a guy being with another guy talking about banging chicks... that's just messed up for either sex.



    Oh my....BIs do not become homosexual or heterosexual. Their relationships are.

    What's a gay lifestyle?

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    Aug 23, 2011 8:13 PM GMT
    Of course it is... I'm turned on both by women and men and enjoy having sex with both genders... so not a shocker here icon_smile.gif
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    Aug 23, 2011 8:14 PM GMT
    Homosexuals and straights have one thing in common. They both believe you have to be on their team or the other's team, no in between. And if you say you are on both teams, both gays and straights will say you are are in denial.
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    Aug 23, 2011 8:16 PM GMT
    Straights to the left of me , Gays to the right, here I am.....My Bi-sexuality....icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Aug 23, 2011 8:18 PM GMT
    Over 60 years late on this one:

    http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/research/ak-hhscale.html
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    Aug 23, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
    kuroshiro said
    paulflexes said
    kuroshiro saidOne flaw though: Sure they may be turned on by both sexes but the minute you are dating/banging/committed to someone of the same sex you are no longer bisexual - plain as day homosexual nature.
    In my experience dating two different bisexuals (at two different times), they both STILL claimed bisexuality even though we were "committed."


    Except that logic is bizarre. If you are "bisexual" and have actively been in relationships with both men and women and you settle down with a man, you are therefore homosexual and living a gay lifestyle... there's no way around that. If you settle down with a woman, you are heterosexual. You can't claim to be bisexual if you are with someone you care about and love. I can't see a guy being with another guy talking about banging chicks... that's just messed up for either sex.


    Your logic is bizarre. Bisexuality refers to attraction, no more, no less. A guy could easily settle down with either a man or a woman and still be attracted to people of the opposite sex of his partner in the same way straight or gay men can be attracted to other men or women outside of their partners.