masc vs fem - from a different point of view

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    Aug 25, 2011 5:04 AM GMT
    This thread is not about masc vs fem.

    This thread is about this thread, on another site:
    http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=781008

    No need to even respond here. In fact, I don't really give a fuck what y'all think...especially the ones who are uber-butch and think every man should act like a man. All I give a fuck about is what my compadres on "that site" think, because they've been my friends (in real life - met most of them) long before anyone here have...even the ones who speak in sarcasm-ish. icon_cool.gif
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    Aug 25, 2011 5:15 AM GMT
    Your work is just as average as I expected it to be. Thanks for the insight.
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    Aug 25, 2011 5:46 AM GMT
    Anduru saidYour work is just as average as I expected it to be. Thanks for the insight.
    Funny that the "straight" site - so far - has 900% more positive responses than here.

    That already tells me that gays are more homophobic than straights.

    YOU are included in that percentage. icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 25, 2011 5:49 AM GMT
    ModelMayhem on ED (NSFW)
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    Aug 25, 2011 5:56 AM GMT
    FrostedFlakes saidModelMayhem on ED (NSFW)
    Google search Sabrina Maree, Travis Kraft, Luis Raphael, Brett Wexler, David Vance, Deacon Blues, Dennis Dean, [Me], and several other well-known artists who are also on that site.

    Then re-think your ED (ErectileDysfucktion) entry.

    MM is like any other site. If you don't meet the right people, it's because you're doing it wrong...dumbass. icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 25, 2011 6:00 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    FrostedFlakes saidModelMayhem on ED (NSFW)
    Google search Sabrina Maree, Travis Kraft, Luis Raphael, Brett Wexler, David Vance, Deacon Blues, Dennis Dean, [Me], and several other well-known artists who are also on that site.

    Then re-think your ED (ErectileDysfucktion) entry.

    MM is like any other site. If you don't meet the right people, it's because you're doing it wrong...dumbass. icon_wink.gif


    There are some talented people and there's some awesome art on MM, but when you get 4 Sean Cody/Corbin Fisher/Randy Blue/SouthernStrokes offers immediately after your profile gets approved and the site has a "no porn" policy, something is wrong. It deserved the treatment ED gave it - I wrote the first draft of it on the old ED site, and the current version of the article still seems truthful.
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    Aug 25, 2011 6:04 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Anduru saidYour work is just as average as I expected it to be. Thanks for the insight.
    Funny that the "straight" site - so far - has 900% more positive responses than here.
    That already tells me that gays are more homophobic than straights.
    YOU are included in that percentage. icon_wink.gif
    lol, wut?
    I'm saying that your photography isn't anything special. It's irrelevant to the topic at hand.
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    Aug 25, 2011 6:10 AM GMT
    Anduru saidYour work is just as average as I expected it to be. Thanks for the insight.


    post your work please...then talk.
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    Aug 25, 2011 6:53 AM GMT
    you have my dear added absolutely nothing to the debate about masculinity vs femininity.

    Bravo!
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    Aug 25, 2011 7:00 AM GMT
    Lenoxx said
    Anduru saidYour work is just as average as I expected it to be. Thanks for the insight.
    post your work please...then talk.
    I don't claim to be a professional and I use only a basic DSLR, working mostly with natural light.
    Paul does a lot of portraiture, whereas I mostly take photos of objects for the form of them.
    My style is also more candid than Paul's studio-style work.
    Our work can't exactly be compared side by side because of these obvious differences, but since you asked I'll show.

    Taken with digital SLR:
    Cat, Rave, Cuff, Blacklight

    Taken with film SLR:
    Cityscape, Lights, Trees, Abstract, Wall, Flowers

    Taken with Polaroid:
    Statues, Beach
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    Aug 25, 2011 10:14 AM GMT
    Anduru said
    Lenoxx said
    Anduru saidYour work is just as average as I expected it to be. Thanks for the insight.
    post your work please...then talk.
    I don't claim to be a professional and I use only a basic DSLR, working mostly with natural light.
    Paul does a lot of portraiture, whereas I mostly take photos of objects for the form of them.
    My style is also more candid than Paul's studio-style work.
    Our work can't exactly be compared side by side because of these obvious differences, but since you asked I'll show.

    Taken with digital SLR:
    Cat, Rave, Cuff, Blacklight

    Taken with film SLR:
    Cityscape, Lights, Trees, Abstract, Wall, Flowers

    Taken with Polaroid:
    Statues, Beach



    I agree with you. I also love your photography. Your comment about Paul's work was spot on what I was thinking after seeing it. [sorry Paul nothing too personal]
    #commentnotreallyrelatedtooriginaltopic

    Also, I remember MM before it became what it is now. It used to be great. #RIPMM
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:02 PM GMT
    How did this thread go from the posted topic to flamin on Paul
    personally masc/fem does not make a difference...its the person inside that counts
    and Paul i looked at some of your work and in My opinion your work is stunning
    i especially like the pic of the dc3 crash
    and the models, well goes without sayin
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:11 PM GMT
    baldone saidand Paul i looked at some of your work and in My opinion your work is stunning
    You don't seem like the type of person who would have enough experience viewing art or photography to understand the nuances between those who have learned talent and those who have natural talent.
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:24 PM GMT
    baldone saidHow did this thread go from the posted topic to flamin on Paul
    personally masc/fem does not make a difference...its the person inside that counts
    and Paul i looked at some of your work and in My opinion your work is stunning
    i especially like the pic of the dc3 crash
    and the models, well goes without sayin
    Thank you. icon_biggrin.gif

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    Aug 25, 2011 12:27 PM GMT
    mayBbignow2 saidI now know your name and will stalk you and share your penis pics that you have uploaded.

    Actually sexually neutral would be bisexual.
    Sexuality and Gender is different.
    They are GENDER-neutral.
    Stalk all you want. You won't be the first nor the last. icon_biggrin.gif

    And, sexuality neutral is not bisexual. It's the removal of labels based on who a person loves.
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:28 PM GMT
    This thread is the equivalent of:


    "please do not read this sign"
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:29 PM GMT
    mayBbignow2 said"He almost got his ass whipped. If he weren't so hot, I probably would done it." Really Paul?
    Yep, really. icon_cool.gif
    ...but only if your sarcasm is broken.
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:37 PM GMT
    Anduru said
    Lenoxx said
    Anduru saidYour work is just as average as I expected it to be. Thanks for the insight.
    post your work please...then talk.
    I don't claim to be a professional and I use only a basic DSLR, working mostly with natural light.
    Paul does a lot of portraiture, whereas I mostly take photos of objects for the form of them.
    My style is also more candid than Paul's studio-style work.
    Our work can't exactly be compared side by side because of these obvious differences, but since you asked I'll show.

    Taken with digital SLR:
    Cat, Rave, Cuff, Blacklight

    Taken with film SLR:
    Cityscape, Lights, Trees, Abstract, Wall, Flowers

    Taken with Polaroid:
    Statues, Beach
    I'll be the better man and admit that your work is great, because I'm not the type of person who feels the need to bash other people's work based on personal differences. That's just childish and immature.

    PS. All light is natural. What you're referring to is available light.
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:39 PM GMT
    lilTanker saidyou have my dear added absolutely nothing to the debate about masculinity vs femininity.

    Bravo!
    That's the whole point...to let others do the adding while I observe.
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:43 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI'll be the better man and admit that your work is great, because I'm not the type of person who feels the need to bash other people's work based on personal differences. That's just childish and immature.

    PS. All light is natural. What you're referring to is available light.
    lol i don't think my photos are anything special really but everybody else seems to like them.

    and sure, whatever. i gave up on becoming a photographer because i didn't give a rats ass about the technical shit and terminology that you need to know.
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:43 PM GMT
    kdsbil saidAlso, I remember MM before it became what it is now. It used to be great. #RIPMM
    No offense taken. Everyone has different tastes.
    I also remember MM when it was great. Most of the people I know there, I met back when it was great.
    Now it has devolved into a cesspool of wannabe models and horny old men with cameras.
    However, there are still a few great people there...if you know what to look for.
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:45 PM GMT
    Anduru said
    paulflexes saidI'll be the better man and admit that your work is great, because I'm not the type of person who feels the need to bash other people's work based on personal differences. That's just childish and immature.

    PS. All light is natural. What you're referring to is available light.
    lol i don't think my photos are anything special really but everybody else seems to like them

    and sure, whatever. i gave up on becoming a photographer because i didn't give a rats ass about the technical shit and terminology that you need to know.
    The only thing you need to know to be a professional is how to sell your work.
    Portrait mills (as seen in department stores) are a prime example of that.
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:49 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidThe only thing you need to know to be a professional is how to sell your work.
    Portrait mills (as seen in department stores) are a prime example of that.
    well my point was basically that you have a learned talent for photography - the kind of talent that most people in a photography class can attain if they spend long enough learning about it - and not the natural talent that many world-famous photographers have

    you're just a step up from portrait mills. if you didn't know how to sell yourself you probably would be a portrait mill.
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    Aug 25, 2011 12:55 PM GMT
    Anduru said
    paulflexes saidThe only thing you need to know to be a professional is how to sell your work.
    Portrait mills (as seen in department stores) are a prime example of that.
    well my point was basically that you have a learned talent for photography - the kind of talent that most people in a photography class can attain if they spend long enough learning about it - and not the natural talent that many world-famous photographers have

    you're just a step up from portrait mills. if you didn't know how to sell yourself you probably would be a portrait mill.
    Everyone has natural artistic talent. Most people were simply raised in an environment that does not allow them to express it, so they must relearn what would have come naturally had their environment been more nurturing.
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    Aug 25, 2011 1:03 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidEveryone has natural artistic talent. Most people were simply raised in an environment that does not allow them to express it, so they must relearn what would have come naturally had their environment been more nurturing.
    I don't believe that.
    I was allowed to experience all sorts of different interests (sports, math, science, history, reading and writing, music, etc.) when I was a kid because my parents have the "as long as you're happy we're happy" attitude about parenting, but I only ever ended up doing what I was good at.
    For example, no matter how many hours I spent drawing and art classes I took I was never good at drawing or painting, but a girl I knew in high school was ridiculously good at drawing and she barely even tried. She was naturally talented at it, whereas I was not. I would have been able to develop a learned ability to draw but it my drawings would never have the same personality of those drawn by someone who possessed the natural ability.