Reading about NY Hurricane

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    Aug 27, 2011 6:23 PM GMT
    These pictures of New york under hurricane warning are impressive... it also seems completely unreal to me, and like some kind of movie, Im not used to Great Huracan seeking her wrathful divine vengeance as far north as this, brace yourselves

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2030720/Hurricane-Irene-New-York-prepares-airports-subway-shut.html
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    Aug 27, 2011 6:29 PM GMT
    Wow...watching the video now.
    This is going to be serious.
    My thoughts go out to everyone who's in the path.
  • waccamatt

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    Aug 27, 2011 11:01 PM GMT
    I think the media has overblown this. A minimal hurricane is like a Nor' easter that they deal with annually in NYC.
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    Aug 27, 2011 11:07 PM GMT
    ^ so they take the same precautions during a nor'easter? If so, NY has little to worry about, since they would know how to deal with it...
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    Aug 27, 2011 11:08 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidWow...watching the video now.
    This is going to be serious.
    My thoughts go out to everyone who's in the path.


    no donations? money for relief efforts?
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    Aug 27, 2011 11:21 PM GMT
    waccamatt saidI think the media has overblown this. A minimal hurricane is like a Nor' easter that they deal with annually in NYC.

    I live close the gulf coast. So we get hurricanes a lot. Even a category 1 hurricane can be devastating. This one is a slow moving one. It can stay in place and flood, that would be horrendous. People have died already.
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    Aug 27, 2011 11:33 PM GMT
    ^ we are being real, go into a category 5 and see for yourself!
  • waccamatt

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    Aug 27, 2011 11:35 PM GMT
    ^Exactly; everyone please remember the story of chicken little. Keep the panic for a strong hurricane, etc. and not a run of the mill category 1 storm. Yes, there may be some flooding and a moderate surge, but this is no Katrina or Hugo or Andrew by any stretch of the imagination.
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    Aug 27, 2011 11:38 PM GMT
    hmmmm, panic is never good, but complacency is just as bad.... Tomas was also a very weak hurricane yet it did more damage here than any storm that passed before in recorded history, simply because of unprecedented levels of precipitation...
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    Aug 27, 2011 11:50 PM GMT
    @bosjock90 Katrina was a category 5 in the open sea but was actually a category 3 when it made landfall in Louisianna.

    @waccamatt there has never been reason to evacuate an entire section of Manhattan for a typical N'oreaster. Nor have we ever had the entire transit system shut down in anticipation. Ever.

    The positioning of this storm is what makes it a particular threat to NYC.

    Keep in mind when discussing Katrina (which seems to be the litmus test of all storms) the main issue was the failure of the levees and THE TOTAL LACK OF TIMELY OFFICIAL RESPONSE OR ADEQUATE PRE-EMPTIVE PRECAUTIONS. I think as a result of that disaster we have learned that it is better to overly prepare than to under-compensate too late after the fact.
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    Aug 27, 2011 11:51 PM GMT
    I'm still staying home.
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    Aug 27, 2011 11:53 PM GMT
    ^agreed with Cash.. like I said in another thread... its being prepared for these things that make them easy to deal with... always over-prepare preferable to under-estimate

    as for kissing-pro: just make sure you're prepared... the fact you thought hurricanes hit Kansas shows you're not aware of whats going on ... thats not a bad thing, but its dangerous, and so please do inform yourself, dont just rely on the media to inform you either
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    Aug 27, 2011 11:55 PM GMT
    O please. Wall Street always looks like that on weekends (sans sandbags). And that pic of Fifth Ave looks like a rainy Sunday morning.
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    Aug 27, 2011 11:57 PM GMT
    ^ *prays*
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    Aug 28, 2011 12:00 AM GMT
    bosjock90 said

    Um, ok, AGAIN - media being irresponsible. One boy was outside during the storm and a large branch/tree fell on him. That story is false - others are saying that he was outdoors, not in his room innocently minding his own business and SPLAT.

    Another death was due to heart attack "induced by stress from the hurricane" (completely unprovable).

    "Surfer killed after trying to surf unsafe waves". Again, are people just dumb? This is what we call Darwinism! No one "deserves" to die! But some people really are just asking for it ...

    The other 2 or 3 deaths were along the same lines - either natural occurrences or more or less just typical Americans doing what they do best, acting stupid.

    Hurricane Katrina was "devastating". And even still, the real problems stemmed from the levies not from the storm itself. And that was a Cat 5.

    Let's keep it real people.

    Greenhopper reiterates my point better:
    GreenHopper saidhmmmm, panic is never good, but complacency is just as bad

    It's better to be over-prepared than under-prepared. The northeast doesn't see hurricanes too often. Of course they are going to milk it.
    Katrina was an administrative disaster because of their levees breaking. But Louisiana has a of culture of complacency and "The man will help us." People learned from it. Their have been hurricanes after that that inflicted a lot of damage on us. We also learned that if you are prepared and think you can do it, hunker down. Leaving would be a last resort for us. But then it's better to be safe than macho.
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    Aug 28, 2011 12:13 AM GMT
    It is unprecedented to have a mandatory evacuation in NYC - my aunt and two cousins were among those evacuated (they all live within 2 or 3 blocks of the beach) and are at my mother's (which is relief to me knowing she's not alone).

    The subway shutdown is wild to me - and now the Governor is saying not to expect it back up and running until Monday afternoon? Yet he's saying to make alternative arrangements to get to work Monday? WTF? Annoyed.

    Some are saying it is overkill by the mayor to make up for the disaster that was his response to the blizzard; I've also heard/read some saying the gov't is keeping the real strength of the hurricane out of the news so as not to panic people - conspiracies, gotta love 'em icon_rolleyes.gif

    No matter which way you slice it, Irene's going to be bad.

    Hunker down and good luck to all of us in her path!

    Great - on top of everything else there is now a Tornado Warning in effect for the 5 Boroughs and LI until 5AM.

  • Montague

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    Aug 28, 2011 12:25 AM GMT
    This reminds me of when the typhoons raped the Philippines not to long ago..except weaker.
  • Joeyphx444

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    Aug 28, 2011 12:38 AM GMT
    UK news sucks and look at how rude they are in the comments
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    Aug 28, 2011 12:55 AM GMT
    As someone who lives here in NYC now for the past 15 years and moved here from South Beach, Miami. I was like " Oh it's only a cat 1 they are over reacting... then I thought wait, very big difference for us here in NYC for two reasons;
    1) we are at sea level and mostly an island. So possible massive flooding from sea surge. And with our major mode of transportation under ground, I think (even tho it has never been done in history) it was a good thing to shut down public transportation.
    2) and the biggest problem of all, we are a vertical city. The higher up you go the more mph of the wind. so 70mph on the ground is about 90mph at 10th floor and about 125mph + at 20th floor and up. Even higher the more floors you go up. Oh! and to think of that wind rushing between buildings, on a normal day a gentile gust can almost knock you over when you round some corners.

    I am kinda sick of the news... they're always trying to be the first to get the story out and end up not getting all the facts. So hope for the best but prepare for the worst.
    Stay safe everybody!

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    Aug 28, 2011 1:07 AM GMT
    Gentle rainfall in northern VA now, but 75% of residents in Richmond without power. That's odd because Richmond is more inland.
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    Aug 28, 2011 1:08 AM GMT
    I have a bad feeling that this storm is going to be a rehash of Hurricane Gloria from 1985.
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    Aug 28, 2011 1:13 AM GMT
    omg ... take care guys ... hope everyone be okay icon_sad.gif
  • comical44

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    Aug 28, 2011 1:25 AM GMT
    I live in upstate NY...everyone up here is freaking out...it hasnt started yet but we are suppose to get a ton of rain,wind and power outages...im sitting in my room waiting for it to begin...hopefully everyone is safe and it doesnt do too much damage
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    Aug 28, 2011 2:11 AM GMT
    this isnt hype. Tornado warnings all over southern jersey with reports of touchdowns . 17 houses damaged by tornado in Lewes Delaware. This thing is just getting started. The flooding with be historic.
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    Aug 28, 2011 2:17 AM GMT
    Cash said@bosjock90 Katrina was a category 5 in the open sea but was actually a category 3 when it made landfall in Louisianna.

    @waccamatt there has never been reason to evacuate an entire section of Manhattan for a typical N'oreaster. Nor have we ever had the entire transit system shut down in anticipation. Ever.

    The positioning of this storm is what makes it a particular threat to NYC.

    Keep in mind when discussing Katrina (which seems to be the litmus test of all storms) the main issue was the failure of the levees and THE TOTAL LACK OF TIMELY OFFICIAL RESPONSE OR ADEQUATE PRE-EMPTIVE PRECAUTIONS. I think as a result of that disaster we have learned that it is better to overly prepare than to under-compensate too late after the fact.


    They have evacuated all of those people and shut down the subway as a precaution, but you will see how minor a storm this is when it reached NYC. The storm surges along the NC coast have been minor and it is a minimal hurricane. No, they don't evacuate people because of a Nor-easter, but I'm pointing out that - strength-wise, Irene is little more than nor-easter. Better to be prepared and nothing happen than to ignore and something bad happen, but look at the data objectively and you'll see this is not a particularly strong hurricane.