A Good Read for Partisans -- Democrat or Republican

  • conservativej...

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    Aug 28, 2011 3:16 PM GMT

    http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/new-districts-further-polarize-1148240.html
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    Aug 28, 2011 3:23 PM GMT
    Sad news.

    No more room left for the independent or the moderate: in GA it looks like one will be left with what amounts to a one-party rule depending upon which hyper-gerrymandered district you live in.

    The failure of the Republic looms ever closer.
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    Aug 28, 2011 3:32 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidSad news.

    No more room left for the independent or the moderate: in GA it looks like one will be left with what amounts to a one-party rule depending upon which hyper-gerrymandered district you live in.

    The failure of the Republic looms ever closer.
    True enough!
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    Aug 28, 2011 3:37 PM GMT
    Aside from the redistricting specifics discussed in the article, I think the general tendency is when one party moves away from the center, it emboldens the members of the other party who are also away from the center, but on the other side. The result is increased polarization. I haven't looked at history to see specifically if there are cycles, but it seems plausible that the pattern could be reversed. Specifically, if a party loses because they drifted too far from the center, the more moderates will again become empowered, and move towards the center, motivating the moderates in the other party to influence their party to do the same.
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    Aug 28, 2011 5:05 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidSad news.

    No more room left for the independent or the moderate: in GA it looks like one will be left with what amounts to a one-party rule depending upon which hyper-gerrymandered district you live in.

    The failure of the Republic looms ever closer.


    The districts actually are not geographically gerrymandered as they were prior to 2011. Would you believe races tend to geographically segregate themselves? :-)
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    Aug 29, 2011 12:07 AM GMT
    conservativejock saidThe districts actually are not geographically gerrymandered as they were prior to 2011. Would you believe races tend to geographically segregate themselves? :-)


    Actually, there are historical trends to support this over time. The USA, and in particular the Deep South especially - at first with forced segregation, and then willing separation via "white flight" and the Great Migration of the 1960s that shaped our trend toward a suburban/inner city divide.

    This trend is inverting itself somewhat as inner cities are "gentrified"; and the divide is becoming less socio-racially driven and more class/economically driven. At least from what I see in NY.
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    Aug 29, 2011 3:27 AM GMT
    alphatrigger said
    conservativejock saidThe districts actually are not geographically gerrymandered as they were prior to 2011. Would you believe races tend to geographically segregate themselves? :-)


    Actually, there are historical trends to support this over time. The USA, and in particular the Deep South especially - at first with forced segregation, and then willing separation via "white flight" and the Great Migration of the 1960s that shaped our trend toward a suburban/inner city divide.

    This trend is inverting itself somewhat as inner cities are "gentrified"; and the divide is becoming less socio-racially driven and more class/economically driven. At least from what I see in NY.


    In Atlanta, it is becoming the same way. Inman Park and the Virginia Highlands areas have become gentrified, and more white families are moving into the city.

    That doesn't mean that there isn't still a major racial divide. Alpharetta, Kennesaw, and Cherokee county are still predominately white. Clayton, South Fulton, and North Fayette are still predominately black.