Are attractive people more selfish? [Apparently yes]

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    Aug 28, 2011 4:16 PM GMT
    http://www.elseviermentalhealth.com/news/168/pretty-people-are-more-selfish/

    For those blessed with good looks, it's “my way or the highway.” And what a beautiful way it is. (Via Guardian)

    New research suggests that people with symmetrical facial features tend to be selfish and are less likely to cooperate with others. Facial symmetry is believed to have a large hand in how people perceive aesthetic beauty and physical attractiveness.

    For these reasons, The Guardian reports that Kate Moss, George Clooney, Natalie Portman and other people famous for being beautiful might not be “perfect life partners.” (As if we even had a chance.)

    The study, published in the journal Economics and Human Biology and compiled by Edinburgh University researchers, claims that attractive people are not only selfish by nature, but also more self-sufficient. They are less likely to ask for help, which kind of debunks that whole damsel-in-distress stereotype.

    Santiago Sanchez-Pages, who is affiliated with universities in Barcelona and Edinburgh, and Enrique Turiegano, of the Universidad Autónoma de Madrid, studied their participants by offering them the option of being a dove that cooperates for the greater good, or a hawk, which apparently signifies a more selfish bird. Based on their choices, the participants' faces were analyzed.

    Surely, our cultural fascination with beauty grants exquisite-looking people all sorts of privileges. But the study claims that people with symmetrical faces have an even greater advantage: superior health. According to the researchers, symmetrical physical attributes aren't just considered attractive because the person's face isn't lopsided. Even on a subconscious level, symmetry is viewed as a sign of “good health,” a trait that, for obvious reasons, appeals to those looking to procreate with long term partners. Earlier studies have also suggested that people with symmetrical mugs experience fewer congenital diseases.

    Ian Deary, a professor from the Scotland university's department of psychology, told the Daily Mail: “Symmetry in the face is thought to be a marker of what is called developmental stability: the body's ability to withstand environmental stressors and not be knocked off its developmental path.”

    The study's findings will be presented at the annual Nobel Laureate Meeting in Germany later this month.
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    Aug 28, 2011 4:28 PM GMT
    I ain't touching this one! icon_eek.gificon_lol.gif
  • commoncoll

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    Aug 28, 2011 5:23 PM GMT
    It sucks to be ugly.icon_sad.gif

    I would like to know what they though was selfishness however.
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    Aug 28, 2011 5:25 PM GMT
    Well, I can't speak for all attractive people. However, I believe that attractive people in general are more prone to being this way since they will most likely think that they can pretty much get anyone they want in which they may feel that they can be as selfish as they want; take away their looks, then I bet you will see a totally different person.
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    Aug 28, 2011 5:34 PM GMT
    But what about people who **think** they are hot and they're clearly not but are selfish? There are two examples here on RJ who happen to live in my town too...and Oh boy... Delusion can be a nasty thing.icon_eek.gif
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    Aug 28, 2011 5:35 PM GMT
    ESCESV saidBut what about people who **think** they are hot and they're clearly not but are selfish? There are two examples here on RJ who happen to live in my town too...and Oh boy... Delusion can be a nasty thing.icon_eek.gif


    I dont live in your town bitch!
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    Aug 28, 2011 5:46 PM GMT
    i know a few good looking ppl who are very selfish indeed.. but I also know a ton of good looking ppl who arent selfish at all.... im divided
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    Aug 28, 2011 5:50 PM GMT
    Simurgh said
    ESCESV saidBut what about people who **think** they are hot and they're clearly not but are selfish? There are two examples here on RJ who happen to live in my town too...and Oh boy... Delusion can be a nasty thing.icon_eek.gif


    I dont live in your town bitch!


    But if you live here then O-town would be slightly prettier.
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    Aug 28, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    Maybe yeah ... they r used to get attention from everyone .. specially from hot guys .. so probably they dun even care for not attractive ppl ...so they grow up selfish !
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    Aug 28, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    but, Natalie Portman seems so nice D:
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    Aug 28, 2011 5:53 PM GMT
    riddler78 saidhttp://www.elseviermentalhealth.com/news/168/pretty-people-are-more-selfish/

    For those blessed with good looks, it's “my way or the highway.” And what a beautiful way it is. (Via Guardian)

    New research suggests that people with symmetrical facial features tend to be selfish and are less likely to cooperate with others. Facial symmetry is believed to have a large hand in how people perceive aesthetic beauty and physical attractiveness.

    For these reasons, The Guardian reports that Kate Moss, George Clooney, Natalie Portman and other people famous for being beautiful might not be “perfect life partners.” (As if we even had a chance.)

    The study, published in the journal Economics and Human Biology and compiled by Edinburgh University researchers, claims that attractive people are not only selfish by nature, but also more self-sufficient. They are less likely to ask for help, which kind of debunks that whole damsel-in-distress stereotype.

    Santiago Sanchez-Pages, who is affiliated with universities in Barcelona and Edinburgh, and Enrique Turiegano, of the Universidad Autónoma de Madrid, studied their participants by offering them the option of being a dove that cooperates for the greater good, or a hawk, which apparently signifies a more selfish bird. Based on their choices, the participants' faces were analyzed.

    Surely, our cultural fascination with beauty grants exquisite-looking people all sorts of privileges. But the study claims that people with symmetrical faces have an even greater advantage: superior health. According to the researchers, symmetrical physical attributes aren't just considered attractive because the person's face isn't lopsided. Even on a subconscious level, symmetry is viewed as a sign of “good health,” a trait that, for obvious reasons, appeals to those looking to procreate with long term partners. Earlier studies have also suggested that people with symmetrical mugs experience fewer congenital diseases.

    Ian Deary, a professor from the Scotland university's department of psychology, told the Daily Mail: “Symmetry in the face is thought to be a marker of what is called developmental stability: the body's ability to withstand environmental stressors and not be knocked off its developmental path.”

    The study's findings will be presented at the annual Nobel Laureate Meeting in Germany later this month.
    where do you people get these ideas from?
  • waccamatt

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    Aug 28, 2011 5:55 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidbut, Natalie Portman seems so nice D:


    She is according to a friend of mine that has done her hair and makeup.
  • starboard5

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    Aug 28, 2011 5:55 PM GMT
    Off the top of my head I'd say, no. We are all selfish, its just that attractive people seem to get away with it more, and primarily because the rest of us let them.
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    Aug 28, 2011 6:14 PM GMT
    So does this mean that people who are not perceived to be beautiful are actually incredibly giving, generous and kind? So shouldn't the 99.9% of us who don't qualify as super models be blissfully fulfilled with loving relationships?

    I broke up with George Clooney because he wanted to posess me and I am too much of a free spirit. Natalie Portman was too obsessed with some guy who did her hair and make-up so I called it quits.
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    Aug 28, 2011 6:19 PM GMT
    Ariodante saidbut, Natalie Portman seems so nice D:

    And according to this, so is Jake Gyllenhaal.
    http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-20-celebs-who-are-awesome-in-person/
    At least I would like to think so! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 28, 2011 6:35 PM GMT
    Cash said Natalie Portman was too obsessed with some guy who did her hair and make-up so I called it quits.


    Don't you get it man she was perfect, dammit.
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    Aug 28, 2011 6:38 PM GMT
    Well I've mentioned before that if you are physically attractive on the 1-10 scale, 10 being the highest, you can be very selective as you please.
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    Aug 28, 2011 6:38 PM GMT
    Ariodante said
    Cash said Natalie Portman was too obsessed with some guy who did her hair and make-up so I called it quits.


    Don't you get it man she was perfect, dammit.


    I couldn't see it at the time because my face is too crooked and it distorts my vision.
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    Aug 28, 2011 6:38 PM GMT
    Well I've mentioned before that if you are physically attractive on the 1-10 scale, 10 being the highest, you can be very selective as you please.
  • Jerebear

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    Aug 28, 2011 6:43 PM GMT
    This is only one of many studies done in this area. I remember seeing a report of a study that had people do essays and two copies were sent to a group of people to mark them. One copy had their picture attached and the other didnt (for control). Beautiful people scored much better when their picture was attached (compared to the marks they got when their picture was not attached), ugly people scored much worse. You can imagine that after a lifetime of being "scored" much higher than you should be when people assess your knowledge, talents and abilities this would skew your view of others, and perhaps lead you to believe you were a better person then they were.

    Comparing the scores the researchers determined that about 2% of people were beautiful, 10% were above plain, 1% were ugly, 7% were below plain, but the good news (for most of us) is that for the vast majority, there were no statistically valid differences in the marks given whether or not their picture was attached and were deemed "plain".

    and yes, facial symmetry was a big factor.
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    Aug 28, 2011 6:44 PM GMT
    Fivealive saidWell I've mentioned before that if you are physically attractive on the 1-10 scale, 10 being the highest, you can be very selective as you please.


    But does it give them the right to be selfish? That's a different question. Just because a guy is hot, does it give him the right to be a total asshole to people? So you can't be nice AND attractive? Or is it like a sense of entitlement?

    I fucking hate people who think that they deserve so and so, like the world owes them this and that. Sense of entitlement, in my opinion, turns me off the MOST. People who think that they are ALL THAT, even if they are extremely hot, I would run for the door.

    They might be hot, but the moment that they opened their mouth, it's all finished for them. Game over. The END.
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    Aug 28, 2011 7:27 PM GMT
    beauty is not important, no one has the right to be an ass hole to no one no matter how hot they think they are or people think they are, only smart people have the right to be ass holes, most beautiful people have no brains and so they are not important, only people with thinking power out important, i say genocide to all the stupid people and all the super models for being stupid.
  • MrNomis

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    Aug 28, 2011 7:46 PM GMT
    i think selfishness has nothing to do with being pretty or ugly.. it has alot to do with our choices and how we were raised. It also has to do with the way we see ourselves and or how much we feel or think society has done for us or not done for us.. in other words some use it as a defense mechanism.... I will say many people do act as if their "shit" don't stink and they are better than others..
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    Aug 28, 2011 7:53 PM GMT
    The fuck.? That's like dudes who have nice bodies, but hideous faces getting cocky because people sleep with them for their body and not their face.!
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    Aug 28, 2011 7:53 PM GMT
    I think it is a matter of education and in what society you are leaving to. If you are in a very competitive society and you try to get into the media, fashion, etc you can find many examples of pretty and very successful people. Are all of them selfish? I do not know. Beauty is how people perceive you and success is a different issue and being selfish is a different issue too. What happen is that many successful people in the media are pretty because it is a business and what people want to watch and they paid for that. On the other hand you can find very smart and ugly people who do research earning a lot of money and believe me there are some of them who are ugly, no facial proportion and very selfish. I have some of them at work (pretty or ugly) who refused to help me when I was a part time, immigrant worker and when the full time position was open I got it not because I was pretty but because I was committed, determinant and intelligent. I am just writing this here guys to tell you that no matter you believe you are pretty or less attractive be a good person and share because you never know what will comes in the future!