Do Any Other Gay Men Get Annoyed When Bisexuals Say "Everyone is Bi / Sexuality Is Fluid And Can Change/ No Labels!"

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    Aug 31, 2011 8:39 PM GMT
    I have some bisexual friends in the area and I've listened to what they've said when discussing queer topics.

    Many of them have two beliefs that I find annoying and offensive:

    1) Everyone is bisexual. They quote the famous "Kinsey Scale" (this is very flawed study that was discredited by the vast majority of the scientific community...) and state that 99% of the human population is more or less bisexual. They tend to heavily or slightly skew towards one gender while some are in the middle.

    True homosexuals or heterosexuals are extremely rare and do not exist. That means there's no such thing as a 'gay' person.

    Which means I am not a 'gay' man but rather a "bisexual with heavy preference for the same sex".

    I've never had a sexual or emotional attraction in my life but they insisted that I DO have sexual or emotional attraction to women but I just don't realize it or I suppress it.

    One had the nerve to say "You could like pussy if you try it and find the right girl. You just need to let go of your inhibitions holding you back."

    That sounds very similar to what my bigoted father told me when I first came out. That I "just need to find the right girl" and I should "try it with a woman". icon_neutral.gif

    2) Sexuality is fluid and change at the drop of dime. Again, quoting the Kinsey scale, they say that sexuality is on a continuum and can slide up and down the scale. In other words, sexual orientation can change. Gay people can become straight. And vice versa.

    In other words, all those "pray the gay away" conversion therapies could work. If sexuality is fluid and can change, that obviously means a gay person could become straight with the correct stimuli and/or situation to change it.

    So why be gay? We should all turn straight and get away from our heinous lifestyle riddle with AIDS and fecal matter... icon_neutral.gif

    Anyone else annoyed when bisexuals say shit like this?
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    Sep 01, 2011 1:33 AM GMT
    here goes again
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    Sep 01, 2011 1:34 AM GMT
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    Sep 01, 2011 1:37 AM GMT
    I personally do believe in the the scale...and I don't think it says that EVERYBODY is bisexual. But there is definitely a continuum in which people fall
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    Sep 01, 2011 1:37 AM GMT
    JP85257 saidI aint had pussy since pussy had me.

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    Does that mean you're 100% pure?
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    Sep 01, 2011 1:38 AM GMT
    Iceblink said
    JP85257 saidI aint had pussy since pussy had me.

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    Does that mean you're 100% pure?

    Id never say "pure."
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    Sep 01, 2011 1:38 AM GMT
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  • Timbales

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    Sep 01, 2011 1:41 AM GMT
    No. I'm secure in my sexuality and what other people do with theirs or think of mine is not my issue.
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    Sep 01, 2011 1:49 AM GMT
    I have noticed that the less uptight I am about my sexuality, the more attractive I find females. I still think of myself as gay, because as far as what I need relationship-wise, I have never met a woman who has that to offer, but I don't find the concept of having sex with a woman as completely disgusting. icon_cool.gif
  • Aquanerd

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    Sep 01, 2011 1:52 AM GMT
    Timbales saidNo. I'm secure in my sexuality and what other people do with theirs or think of mine is not my issue.


    I completely agree. I gave up worrying about what other people think about what I like to put where, a long time ago.icon_rolleyes.gif
  • DrewT

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    Sep 01, 2011 1:53 AM GMT
    Supermann saidI personally do believe in the the scale...and I don't think it says that EVERYBODY is bisexual. But there is definitely a continuum in which people fall


    Yup.

    And yes, sexuality is fluid, but it doesn't change quickly, nor does it stray to far. You won't go from a Kinsey 6 to a Kinsey 1, but you may move a bit this way and that.

    I do not like the va-jayjay, but there is one girl where it wouldn't be as repulsive.
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    Sep 01, 2011 2:16 AM GMT
    I've found that gay guys that are "annoyed" by bisexuality are typically:

    1) Jealous that these guys can pull off what they can't

    2) Afraid that these guys will become the "accepted gays"

    3) Afraid that these guys will leave them for a woman.

    4) Jealous that these guys have more options.

    5) Threatened by bisexual and straight guys

    6) Easily "annoyed" by anything.

    7) Angry on the inside because of 2 or more of the above
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    Sep 01, 2011 2:19 AM GMT
    Brownale saidI've found that gay guys that are "annoyed" by bisexuality are typically:

    1) Jealous that these guys can pull off what they can't

    2) Afraid that these guys will become the "accepted gays"

    3) Afraid that these guys will leave them for a woman.

    4) Jealous that these guys have more options.

    5) Threatened by bisexual and straight guys

    6) Easily "annoyed" by anything.

    7) Angry on the inside because of 2 or more of the above

    I think youre just a selfish dick.

    Thats how *MOST* of us view bisexuals.

    Selfish or will fuck anything with a hole.
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    Sep 01, 2011 2:23 AM GMT
    I'm so comfortable with my sexuality that I truly don't give a fuck what other people find attractive.
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    Sep 01, 2011 2:23 AM GMT
    Excuse my lack of opinion...but I really don't care either way. You are who you think you are...so just be you. There's enough problems in the world as it is. icon_razz.gif
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    Sep 01, 2011 2:40 AM GMT
    BeingThePhoenix saidI have noticed that the less uptight I am about my sexuality, the more attractive I find females. I still think of myself as gay, because as far as what I need relationship-wise, I have never met a woman who has that to offer, but I don't find the concept of having sex with a woman as completely disgusting. icon_cool.gif

    I don't find it disgusting either, but I can't say that I'm attracted to them. I've made out with girls before and I was far from being repulsed by it. This has made a lot of my friends think that I'm bi and not actually straight. They don't realize that just because I wasn't repulsed by it it doesn't mean I was attracted to it either.
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    Sep 01, 2011 2:50 AM GMT
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  • MSUBioNerd

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    Sep 01, 2011 2:56 AM GMT
    I don't think the OP is annoyed by bisexuality. I think he's annoyed by the behavior of some bisexuals. It's a pretty common human failing that many people don't recognize that what is true for them is not true for everyone. As such, there are going to be some bisexuals who honestly don't understand how anyone could not be bisexual, and go beyond simply not understanding it to saying that it doesn't exist.

    As for the question -- yes, I find that annoying when it happens. It's the same way I get really annoyed when someone argues with me what my emotional status is. Each one of us is the world's leading expert on ourselves. Telling someone else that he doesn't really feel what he says he feels extremely arrogant and patronizing. That's not to say that I take everyone at face value when they say things that their observable reactions don't line up with -- a college friend kept telling everyone she was a lesbian while she dated men and never women, for example, so I didn't call her a lesbian. I called her bi, and figured she should be happy that I was taking her declared attraction to women as real despite absolutely no evidence of it -- but yes, if someone tells me that everyone is bi, I get annoyed. I'm more likely to roll my eyes than argue, since the person is clearly not operating predominantly on logic, but it's still annoying even though I'm perfectly comfortable with my homosexuality.
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    Sep 01, 2011 2:59 AM GMT
    I personally have seem more gay guys with a negative bias against bi's then vice versa.

    Have heard these comments from many "close minded" gays: "Bisexuality is just a stop on the way to being gay or bi's r just still closeted gays"

    Haven't yet met a bi guy expressing the comments attributed to them by this forum.

    And if his bi friends did make that comment about all gays r bi sexual then they have misunderstood the Kinsey study.

    The Kinsey study concludes that all people fall somewhere on the scale.

    From totally str8 to totally gay and many fall somewhere in between.

    Not that all people are bi sexual to a degree.

    Bi here and it's the person and what they bring to the game who turn me on. Love & enjoy both.
  • rebelbeard

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    Sep 01, 2011 3:03 AM GMT
    Actually, I am a gay man who believes that sexual is fluid. Nothing about sexuality is cast in stone.

    Since there are enough threads regarding this same topic I am just going to leave that at that.
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    Sep 01, 2011 3:09 AM GMT
    JP85257 said
    Brownale saidI've found that gay guys that are "annoyed" by bisexuality are typically:

    1) Jealous that these guys can pull off what they can't

    2) Afraid that these guys will become the "accepted gays"

    3) Afraid that these guys will leave them for a woman.

    4) Jealous that these guys have more options.

    5) Threatened by bisexual and straight guys

    6) Easily "annoyed" by anything.

    7) Angry on the inside because of 2 or more of the above

    I think youre just a selfish dick.

    Thats how *MOST* of us view bisexuals.

    Selfish or will fuck anything with a hole.



    How is bisexuality selfish? Your response is no better than those condemnations put out by Westboro Baptist Church or the likes of Michele Bachmann. Bisexuality means a romantic/sexual attraction to both sexes. Nothing selfish about that. So it has nothing to do with "fucking anything with a hole," because sexuality is not defined by the act of sex.
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    Sep 01, 2011 4:39 AM GMT

    The only thing I don't care for in SOME bisexuals is denial and that they were once gay and now straight. That messes things up for a lot of us who are gay and cannot be anything else.

    Cannot.

    Not better, or gold card or any such nonsense.

    Straights are in the same boat.

    -Doug
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    Sep 01, 2011 4:46 AM GMT
    JP85257 saidI aint had pussy since pussy had me.
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    I nearly fell off my chair!
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    Sep 01, 2011 4:56 AM GMT
    Iceblink said
    JP85257 saidI aint had pussy since pussy had me.

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    Does that mean you're 100% pure?


    people do get upset with the word pure, now don't they; but thats their insecurity. But if you had pussy, you don't have any Gold Card! because that only belongs to us true blue Homosexuals the real gays; not imposter's. But some bisexuals do get bent out of shape, that because they now may have a boyfriend, they can't get a Gay Gold Card. Some people just don't want to pay for their actions either.

    I never ever being confused about my sexuality, have never ever had any attraction to those weeping smelly mucus membranes called a vagina. That would make one 100% pure homosexual, thus I do have a Gold card. Ice does not.icon_wink.gificon_lol.gif

  • JP85257

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    Sep 01, 2011 6:46 AM GMT
    pattison said
    Iceblink said
    JP85257 saidI aint had pussy since pussy had me.

    *Gold Card Status*




    Does that mean you're 100% pure?


    people do get upset with the word pure, now don't they; but thats their insecurity. But if you had pussy, you don't have any Gold Card! because that only belongs to us true blue Homosexuals the real gays; not imposter's. But some bisexuals do get bent out of shape, that because they now may have a boyfriend, they can't get a Gay Gold Card. Some people just don't want to pay for their actions either.

    I never ever being confused about my sexuality, have never ever had any attraction to those weeping smelly mucus membranes called a vagina. That would make one 100% pure homosexual, thus I do have a Gold card. Ice does not.icon_wink.gificon_lol.gif


    Im def not pure because if I had as many dicks sticking out of me as I have had stuck in me I'd look like a porcupine.

    I have never slept with a woman and never will. Women repulse me.