Lab-grown meat might be only 6 months away

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    Sep 01, 2011 9:34 PM GMT
    Well, er, it would be the environmentally friendly alternative - except for the fact that it's currently white.

    http://blastr.com/2011/09/lab-grown-meat-might-be-only-6-months-away-yum-we-think.php

    Scientists are on the verge of creating pain-free meat. The very thought of it could end the epic war that's been raging between PETA and, well, everyone else. There's a new meat producer being developed overseas and no killing's involved, just growth—like a plant.

    Mark Post, a scientist at the Maastricht University in the Netherlands, believes that a meat breakthrough is on the way. In six months, we could have our first taste of "lab-grown sausage!" Post has experimented with pig cells and has found a way to nurture and grow them in a lab setting.

    So far, he has created strips of muscle-like tissue that are about 2.5 centimeters long and 0.7 centimeters wide. He gives them plenty of T.L.C., which includes exercise so they can gain the consistency of real muscle. But at the moment, he claims the strips are lacking the right color, which is a dead giveaway that they're fake.

    "It's white because there's no blood in it, and very little myoglobin, the iron-bearing protein," he says. "We are looking at ways to build up the myoglobin content to give it color."

    What if Post is able to copy the pig muscle accurately? On a cellular level, it's amazing, but what about the taste? Before we get too up in arms about this, there are a lot of hoops the meat will have to jump through before hitting our shelves. Funding for the research is limited, so Post doesn't have access to all the cells he needs, plus there are countless FDA tests, as well as naysayers who think the whole process is just creepy.

    As for PETA, they put out a bid of $1 million for first dibs on the synthetic meat when it hits the market. (Why are we not surprised?) With the right funding, Post thinks we "can have a hamburger in a year."
  • commoncoll

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    Sep 01, 2011 9:59 PM GMT
    If maggots don't want to eat it, I don't want to eat it.

    I suppose this could be useful in stem cell growth of new arms and legs and burn tissues and things like that-if only on a purely superficial scale.
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    Sep 01, 2011 10:14 PM GMT
    commoncoll saidIf maggots don't want to eat it, I don't want to eat it.
    +1
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    Sep 02, 2011 3:49 PM GMT
    ill wait till there's nothing left in the fridge.
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    Sep 02, 2011 4:00 PM GMT
    I would love lab-grown chicken!

    I love chicken but I hate all the squiggly bits, veins and connective tissue so I always have to fillet breasts and cut off all the bits I don't like which is a hassle.

    If I could get something that was just like a chicken breast but 100% pure meat with no gross bits, that would be great!

    I don't get the thing about maggots - I thought maggots only ate decomposing flesh? So if they don't like it surely that's a good thing!
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    Sep 02, 2011 4:08 PM GMT
    I'd rather watch them slaughter my meat in front of me then eat lab grown.

    EDIT: Reread my post *giggle*
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    Sep 02, 2011 5:32 PM GMT
    Nothing beats the rush of hunting your own meat, then returning it's life back to the Creator and giving thanks for it, then devouring it with your own claws and fangs.
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    Sep 02, 2011 5:35 PM GMT
    Ridiculous, and ridiculous to those that support this.
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    Sep 02, 2011 5:41 PM GMT
    Pure saidI would love lab-grown chicken!

    I love chicken but I hate all the squiggly bits, veins and connective tissue so I always have to fillet breasts and cut off all the bits I don't like which is a hassle.

    If I could get something that was just like a chicken breast but 100% pure meat with no gross bits, that would be great!



    The damned tendon on chicken breast makes me crazy. I'm like surgeon with a Shun blade when it comes to removing it.
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    Sep 02, 2011 5:47 PM GMT
    This is going to take a lot of the glamour out of the steak house icon_razz.gif
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    Sep 02, 2011 5:49 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidNothing beats the rush of hunting your own meat, then returning it's life back to the Creator and giving thanks for it, then devouring it with your own claws and fangs.


    I thought that only applied to hunting people.icon_razz.gif
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    Sep 02, 2011 7:02 PM GMT
    mayBbignow2 saidI dont understand the issue here- meat prices could drop.


    these people lick other asses for pleasure but can't eat something that was grown in a sterile lab setting. .........don't try. its a waste of energy icon_neutral.gif
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    Sep 02, 2011 7:04 PM GMT
    Ewwwwwwwwwwww!!!

    Is nothing natural anymore?! what the hell?!
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    Sep 02, 2011 7:06 PM GMT
    waimea saidEwwwwwwwwwwww!!!

    Is nothing natural anymore?! what the hell?!


    The current process by which we get our meat is already unnatural....
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    Sep 02, 2011 7:07 PM GMT
    dekiruman said
    waimea saidEwwwwwwwwwwww!!!

    Is nothing natural anymore?! what the hell?!


    The current process by which we get our meat is already unnatural....


    With all the hormone and antibiotic shots....

    Damn to be healthy you need to be rich. icon_evil.gificon_evil.gificon_evil.gif
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    Sep 02, 2011 7:11 PM GMT
    waimea said
    dekiruman said
    waimea saidEwwwwwwwwwwww!!!

    Is nothing natural anymore?! what the hell?!


    The current process by which we get our meat is already unnatural....


    With all the hormone and antibiotic shots....

    Damn to be healthy you need to be rich. icon_evil.gificon_evil.gificon_evil.gif


    this way is totally better because, it doesn't cause suffering, and it allows you to manipulate things like cholesterol and fat content. You wouldn't even need all of these hormones and antibiotics in lab grown meat.

    We could be so much farther along in so many areas of science if there weren't so many pussies.......and republicans holding humanity back
  • neosyllogy

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    Sep 02, 2011 7:15 PM GMT
    I fully support this and this is actually a bigger deal than I think people appreciate.

    Top 4 reasons it's important (not in order of importance):

    (1) No animals. We've largely adjusted to the fact of killing breathing, suckling, nominally feeling animals, but c'mon it's not a good thing.

    (2) No disease. Animals are dirty. Animals living in crowded pens or even in pastures are dirty and susceptible to disease. To say nothing of slaughterhouse conditions. Lab grown meat means meat grown cleanly and safely - no mad cow, no H1N1 (developing), little chance of salmonella, etc.

    (3) Cheap meat. The problem with animals is you have to feed them their entire lives. The amount of calories that go into producing a pound of meat is many time more than the meat itself. Growing in lab conditions will, ultimately, be much more efficient and cheaper - better quality food for everyone.

    (4) Scale & Location. You can't grow a farm upwards (practically) nor can you set one in dessert or tundra easily. Farming scales poorly, while population rises exponentially. The ability to "grow" meat, means you can reduce farm footprints AND grow it in far flung places (eventually cheaply, see #3). This changes everything in the long term. You want to fight famine, don't ship food - help them make their own. The realities of farming make that difficult in many places - cheap meat that can be made regardless of climate or, largely, space offers an opportunity to combat world hunger in fundamentally new ways.


    I'm so for this!
    AND, a decade from now (maybe two depending on effort), the meat will just taste better. There's more control than you get raising cattle and feeding it whatever slop you can wrangle up.
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    Sep 02, 2011 7:47 PM GMT
    They should heed "Better Off Ted"....

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    Sep 02, 2011 7:51 PM GMT
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    Sep 02, 2011 8:03 PM GMT
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  • Anto

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    Sep 02, 2011 8:07 PM GMT
    This should also be done for plant matter to spare the environment and also improve the ethical treatment of plants. Life is life. Just because it's not easy to sympathize with or bond with a plant doesn't mean it should not be respected.

    Meat and plant matter should all be synthesized for efficiency and respect for life (except microscopic), right?! Of course right!

    I wonder if the growing of human meat would be banned?
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    Sep 02, 2011 8:13 PM GMT
    Soylent Green.

    'Nuff said.
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    Sep 03, 2011 8:29 PM GMT
    alphatrigger saidSoylent Green.

    'Nuff said.


    Didn't they actually process whole people though?

    Synthesizing meat from cells would just be akin to growing more of them without having to kill the source where they came from, sort of like how patches of skin are grown from foreskin cells for medical purpose like lesions caused from diabetes. I suppose those sheets of skin might be edible. Anyone know about this?

    Imagine how cool it would be to eat of synthesized meat from different people. There could be celebrity lines of steak or combo meals composed of meats from your favorite bands or noble prize winners.
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    Sep 03, 2011 8:32 PM GMT
    Defenseon saidI'd rather watch them slaughter my meat in front of me then eat lab grown.

    EDIT: Reread my post *giggle*
    If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!?
    /Pink Floyd quote
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    Sep 03, 2011 8:35 PM GMT
    Anto said
    alphatrigger saidSoylent Green.

    'Nuff said.


    Didn't they actually process whole people though?

    Synthesizing meat from cells would just be akin to growing more of them without having to kill the source where they came from, sort of like how patches of skin are grown from foreskin cells for medical purpose like lesions caused from diabetes. I suppose those sheets of skin might be edible. Anyone know about this?

    Imagine how cool it would be to eat of synthesized meat from different people. There could be celebrity lines of steak or combo meals composed of meats from your favorite bands or noble prize winners.


    Wow.