What do you guys think of the government now (presently) referring to themselves as "the federal family?" They know that pretty much everyone dislikes the "government" so now they are trying to move from referring to themselves as the government to the federal family. What are your thoughts on this?

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    Sep 04, 2011 3:38 PM GMT
    I personally think that if you change your name then you should also change your overall perspective and practices for the better. What's the point in changing your name but you're still doing the exact same things as beforeicon_rolleyes.gificon_question.gif
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    Sep 04, 2011 4:01 PM GMT
    All repackaging and relabeling for purely political reasons.

    Stimulus for shovel-ready jobs becomes infrastructure investment.

    Taxing business (I mean tax the rich) becomes revenue enhancements.

    They are hoping that new labels for failed policies will take the stench of failure away.
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    Sep 04, 2011 4:10 PM GMT
    atlantasouthguy,

    You are 7 years late. The term first cropped up in 2004 during Bush's administration:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/post/origins-of-the-federal-family/2011/08/29/gIQALov8mJ_blog.html

    You're welcome.
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    Sep 04, 2011 4:17 PM GMT
    I stand corrected if it was first used under the Clinton administration, though it still goes against the narrative some on this forum want to tell.
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    Sep 04, 2011 4:29 PM GMT
    creature saidatlantasouthguy,

    You are 7 years late. The term first cropped up in 2004 during Bush's administration:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/post/origins-of-the-federal-family/2011/08/29/gIQALov8mJ_blog.html

    You're welcome.


    Thank you for the history in which this was first done away with. I knew that this current administration wasn't the first to do away with this new name. However, you completely missed the whole point/didn't answer my question. I was just curious of what your opinions were in regard to the so called new name.
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    Sep 04, 2011 4:33 PM GMT
    You acknowledge this has been done before but you still are calling this a new name? Oh lawdy...
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    Sep 04, 2011 4:41 PM GMT
    creature saidYou acknowledge this has been done before but you still are calling this a new name? Oh lawdy...


    I do apologize that I have confused you or you don't understand my question. Please feel free to just ignore it all together.
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    Sep 04, 2011 4:47 PM GMT
    atlantasouthguy said
    creature saidYou acknowledge this has been done before but you still are calling this a new name? Oh lawdy...


    I do apologize that I have confused you or you don't understand my question. Please feel free to just ignore it all together.


    When you ask "What do you guys think of the government now referring to themselves as "the federal family," it implies that the term is newly created, and thus starting under the Obama administration. Your question is based on an incorrect assumption.

    You could ask your question without the word "now." It might seem like nitpicking, but it does change the meaning of your question. I did understand your question, but honestly I don't think you did.

    I see no problem with the federal government referring to itself as the federal family since there is a lot of cooperation and disagreement between the agencies. Just like a family.
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    Sep 04, 2011 4:59 PM GMT
    creature said
    atlantasouthguy said
    creature saidYou acknowledge this has been done before but you still are calling this a new name? Oh lawdy...


    I do apologize that I have confused you or you don't understand my question. Please feel free to just ignore it all together.


    When you ask "What do you guys think of the government now referring to themselves as "the federal family," it implies that the term is newly created, and thus starting under the Obama administration. Your question is based on an incorrect assumption.

    You could ask your question without the word "now." It might seem like nitpicking, but it does change the meaning of your question. I did understand your question, but honestly I don't think you did.

    I see no problem with the federal government referring to itself as the federal family since there is a lot of cooperation and disagreement between the agencies. Just like a family.


    Thank you for finally stating your opinion on the question. "Now" meant present tense for the record rather than newly created. I completely understood my question...otherwise I would not have posted it. I think you complicated the question in its entirety and maybe read too much into it but it's completely okay because it was not even that serious. Thanks for your input.
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    Sep 04, 2011 5:15 PM GMT
    jprichva saidI don't know why I bother, because apparently a lot of people have poor comprehension skills.

    When the Clinton, Bush II, and Obama administrations used the term "federal family", they weren't talking about the government-as-parent, constituents-as-children notion that so many people are reacting to.

    They were referring to groupings of agencies within the government. Here "family" is used as a synonym for what "phylum" means in botany.

    Get it?


    My comprehension skills are above average. However, I did not think of it this way. I actually interpreted it differently because this current administration has used it more often in different scenarios (Janet Napolitano) from what I have seen compared to the past administrations. Thank you for helping me to see it differently.
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    Sep 04, 2011 5:17 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    atlantasouthguy said
    creature saidYou acknowledge this has been done before but you still are calling this a new name? Oh lawdy...


    I do apologize that I have confused you or you don't understand my question. Please feel free to just ignore it all together.


    As jprichva pointed out above, it's referring to the collective organization, HOWEVER, in the current climate of such a large segment of our population dependent in one way or another on the Federal government, I think it is a poor choice of words.


    Thanks southbeach1500icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 04, 2011 5:18 PM GMT
    You're welcome.

    But I complicated it? Look at the title of your thread. It suggests that the current administration is using "federal family" as a means to repackage itself. This idea is supported by your first post.

    jprichva, and even southbeach, told you it is not a means of rebranding itself, but rather a term that is floated around the federal government to refer to itself as a family. It's not a marketing technique to sell an image to the public.
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    creature saidYou're welcome.

    But I complicated it? Look at the title of your thread. It suggests that the current administration is using "federal family" as a means to repackage itself. This idea is supported by your first post.

    jprichva, and even southbeach, told you it is not a means of rebranding itself, but rather a term that is floated around the federal government to refer to itself as a family. It's not a marketing technique to sell an image to the public.


    Haha...you are all over the map with this :-). I love it, good debating going on here. However, you are on the right track on my interpretation of what "the federal family" are trying to do. I think they are just trying to take away the negative view of "the government" by calling themselves "the federal family" hoping that the American people will see them in a more positive light...as if they were looking out for us just like "families" are suppose to look out for each other. I'm not the only one who interpreted it this way for the record. That's the thing with politics, there are many, many interpretations.
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    Sep 04, 2011 5:47 PM GMT

    You're free to your interpretations, so good luck with that icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 04, 2011 6:05 PM GMT
    atlantasouthguy said
    I do apologize that I have confused you or you don't understand my question. Please feel free to just ignore it all together.



    You should be apologizing for the long ass thread title. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 04, 2011 8:15 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    atlantasouthguy said
    I do apologize that I have confused you or you don't understand my question. Please feel free to just ignore it all together.



    You should be apologizing for the long ass thread title. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Pointless...is that a short enough thread title for yaicon_idea.gificon_question.gif
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    Sep 04, 2011 8:25 PM GMT
    atlantasouthguy said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    atlantasouthguy said
    I do apologize that I have confused you or you don't understand my question. Please feel free to just ignore it all together.



    You should be apologizing for the long ass thread title. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Pointless...is that a short enough thread title for yaicon_idea.gificon_question.gif



    You're learning icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 04, 2011 9:15 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    atlantasouthguy said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    atlantasouthguy said
    I do apologize that I have confused you or you don't understand my question. Please feel free to just ignore it all together.



    You should be apologizing for the long ass thread title. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Pointless...is that a short enough thread title for yaicon_idea.gificon_question.gif



    You're learning icon_lol.gif


    Thanks for the coaching icon_biggrin.gif.
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    Sep 04, 2011 9:17 PM GMT
    Wow what is with the long title, it's ridiculous.