regarding the US Presidential Elections in Nov. 2008

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    May 11, 2008 12:01 AM GMT
    This is probably the best piece of logic that I have seen regarding the US Presidential Elections in Nov. 2008 I DON'T KNOW WHO WROTE THIS BUT HE/SHE DOESN'T PULL ANY PUNCHES!!!!!

    After long and serious thought, I have decided to endorse Senator John McCain for President. I have always voted for the person and have not voted for anyone because some political party was telling me who I should vote for.

    We all know the choices by now and, that said, I do believe that the process of selecting a chief executive is deeply flawed. The words "money" and "special interests" come to mind, among many others.

    Here's the way I see it: Barack Obama, you are a fine public speaker. You are also an extremely liberal Senator from the State of Illinois , which has a long and rich history of political corruption of the first magnitude. You are indeed a child of that system.

    You have finally insulted my intelligence far beyond my capacity to tolerate your insults. It has nothing at all to do with your skin color. As a matter of fact, it would be so COOL to finally have an African-American for President. What a great statement that would be to the entire world that we are indeed the greatest country on earth! But, unfortunately, General Colin Powell is not running, and YOU are NOT the man for this job!

    Barack baby, you want me to believe that you have never heard the sermons of your own pastor, the Right Reverend "G-- D--- America" Jeremiah Wright. It is a matter of record that this has been your church for over 20 years. It is a matter of record that you were married there by this very pastor, and that your children were baptized there.

    The good Reverend saw fit to visit Khadafy in Libya with you and to give a lifetime achievement award to Louis Farrakhan, of all people. We have all now seen excerpts of his sermons all over the airwaves by now. And you have publicly stated that this man IS your "spiritual mentor".

    BUT, your pastor is NOT the reason I am NOT voting for you. His words were disturbing enough, but it is your own HUGE church congregation, seen jumping, hooting and howling to his words in the background that disturb me the most. And please don't tell me you attended church there and never once heard a "discouraging word" in the 20 years you attended there. Don't tell me, that in addition to the good reverend, that you are now not having anything to do with all those other people seen hooting and howling out in the audience in the background of his fiery tirades. Even Oprah Winfrey got disgusted and walked out. I am no Oprah fan, but still she did the right thing.

    Now YOU look me in the eye and ask me to believe that you never heard such language in all the years you attended there! This is like me telling you that I attended dozens of Klan rallies and never once heard the "N" word. Yep. And Bill Clinton "did not inhale".

    Yes, Mr. Obama, we all have friends who have said stupid things that embarrassed us, but NOW you have asked me to believe something that is so incredibly stupid that you are telling me that I am just stupid enough to believe you. THAT is the main reason that I will never vote for you.

    I am deeply sorry, that in a county teeming with enormously talented African Americans who would make a good President, that the political system has chosen YOU. You are a pathetic and plastic excuse for an American, who will not even salute the Flag during the Pledge of Allegiance. God forbid you ever get near the Oval Office.

    Now, did I mention Bill Clinton? AH YES! This brings us to MRS. WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON, who this candidate really is, in spite of all the other names she may care to call herself. This "feminist" piece of work of course would like to be referred to as MS.and we all know who wears the pant suit in that family.

    MS. Clinton, (sugar), it is just as depressing to realize that there are dozens of women who would also make great Presidents. But, fortunately, the horrible state of the selection process has selected YOU. Ms. Clinton, I'm sorry, but you could not tell the truth if we water boarded your worthless A--! Still you play the role of the "embarrassed but dignified noble wife". What utter malarky!

    I am not voting for you for a world of reasons, but the main one is the same as my not voting for Senator Obama. You persistently insult my intelligence. It COULD be conceivably possible that you did not know about Monica Lewinsky, extremely remote, but possible if we stretch our imaginations a bit. But you turn around and then ask me to believe that you also did not know about Paula Jones and the legion of other women who were chewed up and spit out by your lecherous excuse for a husband. Puleese turn off this broken record !!!

    But let's set aside your hubby's flagrant pecadillos. The real reason I will never vote for you is that I don't think the country can survive EIGHT MORE YEARS of Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate, Sandy Berger stuffing his socks with classified intelligence, Janet Reno's goon squad, and the myriad other corruptions that seem to stick to you like your ugly face. So our former President can't keep his d### in his pants. The REAL issue is that he committed perjury under oath when he lied about it and the pathetically-attempted coverup that followed. Like you, he is totally incapable of telling the truth. He could not do it if you tortured him, and in voting for you, we would get the BOTH of you, all over again -- the same folks who could have taken out Osama Bin Laden over 3,000 dead Americans ago!

    And please stop telling me that you have "8 years of experience" to lead us. You were the freakin' first lady already, not the Commander in Chief. Jeez! The sum of your "experience" is that of the most worrisome and incompetent meddling in the history of the White House. You even cursed your pitiful staff and the Secret Service agents who were and still are unfortunately charged with risking their lives to protect your worthless, thieving hide, and all at the expense of other people who have to work for a living.

    Your single pathetic platform is to finance the illegal drugs, alcoholism and bad habits of the very lowest and most irresponsible freeloaders in America and to then "garnish the wages" (your own words) of every law-abiding and hard-working American to pay for it. This disaster you refer to as "Universal Health Care".

    Where have you been the last 30 years? Did you not see that socialism is a failure wherever it has been tried? Did you not notice that the Soviet Union has collapsed since it gave no reward to those who worked the hardest for the fruits of their own labors to pay for those who will not??

    It is interesting to see all the dead bodies that you and your hubby have left in your wake: Suicides, mysterious deaths, cover-ups that make Richard Nixon look like a rank amateur. The utter contempt and unbelievable arrogance of some of your strongest supporters, most notably the recently resigned and disgraced Governor Eliot Spitzer, the epitome of hypocritical and malevolent arrogance gone wild, one of your most ardent, wealthy and powerful political supporters. A man the news media refuses to admit IS a "super delegate" in your own political machine, a fine example of your own "adopted" state of New York. No wonder you moved there to run for Senator! The environment there is perfect for the likes of you! Yes, I would vote for a woman, but I will NOT vote for YOU! Which leaves us with Senator John McCain.

    John, you are a flawed man. You are a bit old, a bit looney, and you have a notoriously bad temper. This perfectly qualifies you, in my humble opinion, to lead us for the next eight years. I WANT your trembling hand on the nuclear button. Think about it. We have Kim Jong IL, Chavez and Ahmadenijad all running around like lunatics, threatening America and threatening to plunge the world into nuclear Armageddon. We have Putin and the Chinese blustering and rat
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    May 11, 2008 12:10 AM GMT
    The rest that would not fit....
    I want John McCain in the Oval Office and I want him to be really pissed off at all these other nut jobs around the planet. John, once you are elected, I want you to go into the Oval Office and throw one of your perfect FITS. Jump up and down and throw something through a plate glass window. Rip the drapes down and foam at the mouth a bit. And I want the whole thing on camera so that Ahmadinejad can see it.



    I want ALL of these "world leaders" to lay awake at night and to break out in a cold sweat every time they think of messing with the United States of America. I want the nuclear button sitting right next to the alarm clock on your night stand. I want pictures of this to be sent to Iran, Russia , China ,Venezuela , Cuba , Libya , Syria , Pakistan ,and those other a%$holes in the sheets, the Saudis.



    On the domestic front, poor John did try and reach across the aisle to the opposition in a desperate effort to compromise and to get the Congress to do something. You may not agree with his efforts, but at least he TRIED. For all his efforts, all he got handed to him was his head in a basket. The liberals are pissed at him and the conservatives are pissed at him. Just my kinda guy.



    I predict that John will select Senator Joe Lieberman as his running mate. Good choice. I want a JEW whose memory of the Holocaust is still fresh in his mind and who is royally pissed off at all of these towel-headed morons in the Middle East to be the next in line if something should happen to John. Shalom, Vice President Joe -- one heartbeat from the Oval Office.



    Finally. John McCain knows on a most personal level what it is to suffer horrible torture for years and to see others die, right in front of you, for their love of America. When you ask him about it, he will tell you that what he did was "nothing special". Even more incredibly, he states that ANY American who truly loves his country would do exactly the same as he did in that situation. You and I will have a hard time believing that; but the real point is that John McCain believes that about the "average American". And that, dear friends and neighbors, is why I will cast my one poor ballot for on election day for John McCain -- warts and all
  • HereNBoston

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    May 11, 2008 12:24 AM GMT
    please tell me this is a joke and I just didn't get it... lol
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    May 11, 2008 4:40 AM GMT
    Well sure sounds like you've thought it out.

    Saw some feminists on the news, a mother and daughter. The mother was pissed because her daughter wasn't going to vote for Hillary simply because she was a woman. That's like buying a used car because it's green, with no thought to quality or value. And that shows a serious lack of character and wisdom.
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    May 11, 2008 7:01 AM GMT
    Yeah, I know what you mean, like voting Democrat just because you're gay. That never made sense to me.

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    May 11, 2008 7:36 AM GMT
    I hear ya....
    Obama is a talented speaker/panderer with no resume. I would have voted for Hillary, but now that the party has chosen style over substance, it looks like John McCain will get my vote. McCain's record is moderate enough for me and he's profoundly more qualified.
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    May 11, 2008 7:49 AM GMT


    Gawd-forbid McCain ends up on the oval office...gawd forbid people indeed.
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    May 11, 2008 7:50 AM GMT
    Ah yes, qualified. Everyone except Obama seems to have gone to president school and studied at least up a M.S. degree level. They all lay in bed at night dreaming about military strategies and how best to make the world fear America and it's might just like a previously successful Austrian immigrant who led Germany. None of them are subjected to ridiculous and patently false rumour campaigns regarding their middle names and acts of ceremonial patriotism. Everyone except Obama has been transparent and forthcoming about their personal income sources except Hillary and McCain's wife.

    Most of what I see above is a collection of half-truths compiled from the Republican spin machine and promoted by the likes of Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh.

    And of course, we desperately need someone who will not hesitate to use nuclear weapons. They will instantly solve all of our global societies' problems by immediately destroying it. Maybe then the Log Cabin Republicans will rise, phoenix-like from the ashes to form a new order where it's okay to a least discuss civil rights for minorities, while still not granting them, within the Republican party.

    crispro saidI hear ya....
    Obama is a talented orator with no resume. I would have voted for Hillary, but now that the party has chosen style over substance, it looks like John McCain will get my vote. McCain's record is moderate enough for me and he's profoundly more qualified.
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    May 11, 2008 8:09 AM GMT
    That was awesome...yep, McCain definitely gets my vote.
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    May 11, 2008 8:57 AM GMT
    Sometimes I wonder what it feels like to want to vote for a

    quite possibly senile

    flip-flopping on positions held less than eight years ago

    man who hires the man who flooded the south with rumors that he had a black illegitimate baby as his campaign advisor,

    and who waited decades to apologize for voting against MLK Day (who votes against MLK Day?,

    a republican who'll continue the grand tradition of yelling individual rights, state's rights, while expanding the government, absorbing the 4th estate, continuing corporate welfare,

    and galvanize around the world to continue the new tradition of war privatization so his friends can continue expanding the government in the name of security when some foreign enemies hit back.



    It must feel pretty good, feeling content while you vote your country into a downward spiral. (sociopath)Well, I guess the corporate think tanks have done their job placing "intellectuals" and "teachers" all over the country to revise history and make up bullshit so we can all vote against our interests. Bravo.










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    May 11, 2008 10:00 AM GMT
    Imtrying21, even Karl Rove said people will vote Republican until they get some education, then they vote Democratic.

    http://thinkexist.com/quotation/as_people_do_better-they_start_voting_like/171041.html
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    May 11, 2008 12:02 PM GMT
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    To the OP: It is nice to see that you are willing to express your opinion! But if anything it was a tawdry and sad comedic attempt to justify your support for that tyrant's candidacy. But so be it, I did enjoy how you attempted to pass off your "criticism" of John McCain as actual criticism with the hope someone will not view your post (actually almost a diatribe) as biased. All I am saying is if senor geriatric wins in November I am just going to laugh!

    Your points of contention are stupid...but hey...to each his own...righ?

    best of luck to you!
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    May 11, 2008 12:07 PM GMT
    crispro saidI hear ya....
    Obama is a talented speaker/panderer with no resume. I would have voted for Hillary, but now that the party has chosen style over substance, it looks like John McCain will get my vote. McCain's record is moderate enough for me and he's profoundly more qualified.


    Hmmm...sounds like a scapegoat for something deeper. What about John McCain intrigues you enough to support him? What policies of his do you support? How do you think him being president will benefit this country? Just curious! I mean...it is only fair for me to ask you since it seems like you have almost formulated a partial argument for your choice out of convenience. But wait, that is how most Americans decide for whom they vote.

    Also, please defend your definition of qualified!!!

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    May 11, 2008 12:07 PM GMT
    You just know that if McCain wins, the price of adult diapers will go through the roof. They'll be discussing the price of adult diapers like it was crude oil. Speculators will be bidding on Depends, buying, selling, trading. Faux News will have Bill O'Really blaming the Arabs for his own shitting in his pants. Alzheimers will be in vogue. Dentures will be all the rage and if you're a straight guy who married anyone but a cunt and a trollop you could be extraordinarily renditioned.
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    May 11, 2008 12:09 PM GMT
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    May 11, 2008 1:22 PM GMT
    While I don't like the idea of voting only for a specific party, at this point in history, the prospect of another Republican having the opportunity to appoint 1 or 2 more conservative Supreme Court Justices (already tilted right) is a bit frightening. These are the people that have a tremendous impact on our lives for more years than any one President's term. I'm always surprised the Democrats don't bring that point up more often.
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    May 11, 2008 2:36 PM GMT
    Why waste RJ's bandwidth with this infantile drivel? It sounds like it was lifted from a vanity posting on Freerepublic.com.

    Much of what's said either isn't true (Obama did not meet Qaddafi, in Libya or elsewhere) or is recycled rumors and fearmongering. The so-called "Clinton body count" is one of the most far fetched and ridiculous pieces of internet conspiracy theory crap ever written. It's garbage.

    The writing you call "pulling no punches" I call the maladroit ramblings of some young conservative misfit with a dull intellect and the inability to make reasoned arguments, and so resorts to personal vituperation and gratuitous assumptions.

    There's nothing noteworthy about this. If this were written as part a college Political Science assignment, it would get a grade of D or C at best.
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    May 11, 2008 2:42 PM GMT
    Well I don't think other countries need to be reminded that the USA is sitting on over 3,000 nukes. Everytime a country tries to acquire nuclear weapons, the US government piously says "you can't have them, but we can".

    John McCain may make a fine president, only time will tell if he gets elected.

    My only piece of advice to my American friends is to VOTE, regardless of who it is for. It is time to revive democracy in the US, and the first step is to increase the % of the population that makes the effort to vote.
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    May 11, 2008 2:44 PM GMT
    JustJohn saidImtrying21, even Karl Rove said people will vote Republican until they get some education, then they vote Democratic.

    That's not quite accurate. He said they vote Democrat if they get "too much" education, not "some" education.

    The Republican Party, conservatives in general, and the church have always been anti-intellectual. They have this perception (not without merit) that the more educated and intellectual a person becomes, the more liberal they become.

    The Republican Party probably wants people educated enough to work and contribute to the economy to make GDP grow, but not educated so much that they become liberals and start seriously pondering issues like universal healthcare, the environment, and minority rights.
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    May 11, 2008 2:57 PM GMT
    It is revolting to hear someone claim they could not vote for Obama because of Jeremiah Wright, and yet the insane ravings of John Hagee and Rod Parsley don't even factor into the possibility of voting for McCain.

    Anyone who claims this is a reasoned argument, or anything other than propaganda with a thinly-veiled cover of anguished soul-searching, is truly an idiot.

    The Republicans have done nothing good in my lifetime. The last really good thing a Republican did was free the slaves.
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    May 11, 2008 2:57 PM GMT
    Perhaps it's his charisma but I actually like Senator Obama. With that said, it's not logical to vote for him as president. He's on his first term as a Senator and still wet behind the ears.

    I also must doubt his judgement because of the company he keeps.

    I don't like the Clintons at all.



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    May 11, 2008 3:04 PM GMT
    1969er> While I don't like the idea of voting only for a specific party, at this point in history, the prospect of another Republican having the opportunity to appoint 1 or 2 more conservative Supreme Court Justices (already tilted right) is a bit frightening. These are the people that have a tremendous impact on our lives for more years than any one President's term.

    Bingo!


    The original piece is, indeed, a political hack job:

    > let's set aside your hubby's flagrant pecadillos. The real reason I will never vote for you....

    So why mention all the non-reasons? Is it to smear the candidate and influence readers not to vote for this candidate for reasons that aren't relevant?

    > I will NOT vote for YOU! Which leaves us with Senator John McCain.

    Surely the author could have found instances where McCain has insulted his/her intelligence, ruled him out, and have been left with one or the other Democratic candidates.

    > your pastor is NOT the reason I am NOT voting for you. His words were disturbing enough, but it is your own HUGE church congregation, seen jumping, hooting and howling to his words in the background that disturb me the most. And please don't tell me you attended church there and never once heard a "discouraging word" in the 20 years you attended there

    I actually liked Obama's answer that the Reverend is from another generation who grew up in a different America.

    I also like the fact that he stood up in church and castigated those criticizing ho-mo-sexuals as not being Christian.

    So to judge him based on association and the "chorus" is shallow short shrift.


    > I predict that John will select Senator Joe Lieberman as his running mate.

    That would be a good thing. Tempting. But what about Supreme Court appointments?

    And what if Obama were to select Lieberman as his VP? I'm no fan of Zbig's foreign policy. Get rid of that guy and get Joe on the ticket and I think it would be very attractive. At least to me.

    On the other hand, whereas this isn't the America that Rev. Wright grew up in, and while it is politically correct to SAY that you have no problem voting for an African-American/black/colored/negro candidate (depending on the term used when one was growing up in that America), I fear that there are many people who, in the privacy of the voting booth, won't vote for a N*. Or, worse yet, will just stay home. Sure hope I'm wrong. As the author correctly says, it would say a lot about America.

    I have the same fear about a woman candidate, but (right or wrong) I think more people will come out and vote for a woman (perhaps including moderate Republican women who want to see the glass ceiling shattered) than would vote for a black candidate (a minority of only ~10% rather than, like women, roughly half the population).
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    May 11, 2008 3:11 PM GMT
    John43620 saidPerhaps it's his charisma but I actually like Senator Obama. With that said, it's not logical to vote for him as president. He's on his first term as a Senator and still wet behind the ears.

    People who say this seem to forget there was another man from Illinois who served only two years as a U.S. Representative, who then went on to become one of the most highly regarded Presidents in history.

    I think it's a spurious deflection to equate experience with qualification.

    I will take someone who is fairly inexperienced, but shows clear thinking, leadership, and diplomatic skills over someone with decades of experience but who possesses an obstinate certitude in the correctness of their own opinions and policies and who displays a reckless tendency to promote U.S. imperialism.
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    May 11, 2008 3:15 PM GMT
    And perchance that is why there was an included link to the exact quote?

    Global_Citizen said[quote][cite]JustJohn said[/cite]Imtrying21, even Karl Rove said people will vote Republican until they get some education, then they vote Democratic.

    That's not quite accurate. He said they vote Democrat if they get "too much" education, not "some" education.

    The Republican Party, conservatives in general, and the church have always been anti-intellectual. They have this perception (not without merit) that the more educated and intellectual a person becomes, the more liberal they become.

    The Republican Party probably wants people educated enough to work and contribute to the economy to make GDP grow, but not educated so much that they become liberals and start seriously pondering issues like universal healthcare, the environment, and minority rights.[/quote]
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    May 11, 2008 3:18 PM GMT
    JustJohn saidAnd perchance that is why there was an included link to the exact quote?

    Perchance you shouldn't paraphrase it incorrectly then?

    I think it's very telling that Rove and other conservatives would even posit that there is such a thing as "too much education" and your paraphrasing actually mitigated that incredulous idea.