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    Sep 06, 2011 1:44 PM GMT
    Imagine a Republican saying this: “Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”

    These heretical thoughts would inspire horror among our friends at Fox News or in the Tea Party. They’d likely label them as Marxist, socialist or Big Labor propaganda. Too bad for Abraham Lincoln, our first Republican president, who offered those words in his annual message to Congress in 1861.
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    Sep 06, 2011 1:53 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidImagine a Republican saying this: “Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”

    These heretical thoughts would inspire horror among our friends at Fox News or in the Tea Party. They’d likely label them as Marxist, socialist or Big Labor propaganda. Too bad for Abraham Lincoln, our first Republican president, who offered those words in his annual message to Congress in 1861.
    Oh they'll come in here with lame arguments on how Lincoln was a traitor and such nonsense..
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    Sep 06, 2011 2:07 PM GMT
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    TropicalMark saidOh they'll come in here with lame arguments on how Lincoln was a traitor and such nonsense..

    No, they won't come in here at all. When truths are inconvenient, these boys stick their fingers in their ears and chant "la la la la la I can't hear you."
    True.. they have no balls.. vaginas, yes! Balls, no.
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    Sep 06, 2011 2:47 PM GMT
    So, in other words, "work" is independent of "money" and "people" are more important than "money. And your point is? I think everyone would agree with this.
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    mocktwinkie saidSo, in other words, "work" is independent of "money" and "people" are more important than "money. And your point is? I think everyone would agree with this.



    Do you really? Then please explain why so many faggot Republicans are so eager to vote away our rights just to save a buck on their taxes.
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    mocktwinkie saidSo, in other words, "work" is independent of "money" and "people" are more important than "money. And your point is? I think everyone would agree with this.



    Do you really? Then please explain why so many faggot Republicans are so eager to vote away our rights just to save a buck on their taxes.


    What makes you think that voting in favor of saving some money on taxes has to do with taking away someone's rights? wtf
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    mocktwinkie saidSo, in other words, "work" is independent of "money" and "people" are more important than "money. And your point is? I think everyone would agree with this.



    Do you really? Then please explain why so many faggot Republicans are so eager to vote away our rights just to save a buck on their taxes.


    What makes you think that voting in favor of saving some money on taxes has to do with taking away someone's rights? wtf



    Have you LOOKED at the Republican candidates and their agenda??? You can't pick one good thing and leave the rest. When you pick a party, you get EVERYTHING they stand for.
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    Sep 06, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie said
    Scruffypup said
    mocktwinkie saidSo, in other words, "work" is independent of "money" and "people" are more important than "money. And your point is? I think everyone would agree with this.



    Do you really? Then please explain why so many faggot Republicans are so eager to vote away our rights just to save a buck on their taxes.


    What makes you think that voting in favor of saving some money on taxes has to do with taking away someone's rights? wtf



    Have you LOOKED at the Republican candidates and their agenda??? You can't pick one good thing and leave the rest. When you pick a party, you get EVERYTHING they stand for.



    He walked right into that one, didn't he?
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    slapstick, nyuck nyuck.

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    Sep 06, 2011 3:59 PM GMT
    that was too easy, Scruffypup.



    Good doggie.
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    Scruffypup said
    mocktwinkie saidSo, in other words, "work" is independent of "money" and "people" are more important than "money. And your point is? I think everyone would agree with this.



    Do you really? Then please explain why so many faggot Republicans are so eager to vote away our rights just to save a buck on their taxes.


    What makes you think that voting in favor of saving some money on taxes has to do with taking away someone's rights? wtf



    Have you LOOKED at the Republican candidates and their agenda??? You can't pick one good thing and leave the rest. When you pick a party, you get EVERYTHING they stand for.


    Simplistic minds put for simplistic ideas, but it doesn't change the complexities of life. When you voted for Obama you voted AGAINST marriage equality because you supported "the whole package".
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    Sep 06, 2011 4:36 PM GMT
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    Scruffypup said
    mocktwinkie said
    Scruffypup said
    mocktwinkie saidSo, in other words, "work" is independent of "money" and "people" are more important than "money. And your point is? I think everyone would agree with this.



    Do you really? Then please explain why so many faggot Republicans are so eager to vote away our rights just to save a buck on their taxes.


    What makes you think that voting in favor of saving some money on taxes has to do with taking away someone's rights? wtf



    Have you LOOKED at the Republican candidates and their agenda??? You can't pick one good thing and leave the rest. When you pick a party, you get EVERYTHING they stand for.


    Simplistic minds put for simplistic ideas, but it doesn't change the complexities of life. When you voted for Obama you voted AGAINST marriage equality because you supported "the whole package".



    Speaking of "simplistic." Dude.....Obama was the best option we had. There were MANY things I disliked about Obama and still do! But look at the progress we've made. And don't even mention when Bushy took a big stinking dump on the President's desk before he left, we now call the "recession." All of the major Republican runners have taken a VOW to "investigate" the LGBT community if they win the office. So keep voting Republican, but don't wimper when they're rounding us all up for quarantine.
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    Sep 06, 2011 4:51 PM GMT
    We just had LABOR day yesterday
    I'll let you google the reason for the holiday

    But the republican party has taken the tack where it is denigrating the labor movement as "Socialist" and "Anti-American"

    The very movement that gave us the American middle class
    The very movement that put us ahead of the rest of the world economically

    Now they want to erase all that and put us on an even keel with the rest of the world
    THAT's what you wanna sign up for?????

    You had ten freakin years of this crap and you wanna start it ALL over again

    Jeez...... You amaze the sh*t outta me
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    Wow. Some great posts on this thread.
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    Sep 06, 2011 4:59 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidImagine a Republican saying this: “Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”

    These heretical thoughts would inspire horror among our friends at Fox News or in the Tea Party. They’d likely label them as Marxist, socialist or Big Labor propaganda. Too bad for Abraham Lincoln, our first Republican president, who offered those words in his annual message to Congress in 1861.


    This is why, in my opinion, the last "real" Republican president was Eisenhower.

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    Sep 06, 2011 5:21 PM GMT
    Scruffypup: Do you really? Then please explain why so many faggot Republicans are so eager to vote away our rights just to save a buck on their taxes.

    jockfever: Fortunately some gay men place having a free and prosperous society ahead of the militant gay agenda.

    The Statists running the Democrat Party are hell-bent on imposing soft tyranny by the federal government, led by the Marxist Empty Suit in the White House.

    Think you have a right to a stable currency? forget it. Think you have a right to the fruits of your labor? forget it. Think you have a right to a future unencumbered by crushing debt? forget it. Think you have a shot at prosperity and a decent job? forget it. Think you have a right to the best health care system in the world? forget it. Think you have a right to not pay for slackers, including millions of government drones and illegal aliens? forget it. Think you have a right to a prosperous society unencumbered by ever more intrusive federal regulations? forget it. The Statist attacks on American freedom and prosperity are endless.

    Most Americans have had an overdose of failed Statist spend-borrow-regulate-print policies, which endlessly assault the private sector where capital makes labor more productive and grows the economic pie.


    2012 can't get here soon enough to throw the Statists out of power.

    If you want to see the most miserable people in the world look to anti-capitalist countries like North Korea, Cuba, Zimbabwe. There's plenty of labor, but no investment of capital to raise the productivity of labor and make society as a whole more prosperous.

    Economic ignorance is the mainstay of the Democrat Party.
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    jockfever saidScruffypup: Do you really? Then please explain why so many faggot Republicans are so eager to vote away our rights just to save a buck on their taxes.

    jockfever: Fortunately some gay men place having a free and prosperous society ahead of the militant gay agenda.

    The Statists running the Democrat Party are hell-bent on imposing soft tyranny by the federal government, led by the Marxist Empty Suit in the White House.

    Think you have a right to a stable currency? forget it. Think you have a right to the fruits of your labor? forget it. Think you have a right to a future unencumbered by crushing debt? forget it. Think you have a shot at prosperity and a decent job? forget it. Think you have a right to the best health care system in the world? forget it. Think you have a right to not pay for slackers, including millions of government drones and illegal aliens? forget it. Think you have a right to a prosperous society unencumbered by ever more intrusive federal regulations? forget it. The Statist attacks on American freedom and prosperity are endless.

    Most Americans have had an overdose of failed Statist spend-borrow-regulate-print policies, which endlessly assault the private sector where capital makes labor more productive and grows the economic pie.


    2012 can't get here soon enough to throw the Statists out of power.

    If you want to see the most miserable people in the world look to anti-capitalist countries like North Korea, Cuba, Zimbabwe. There's plenty of labor, but no investment of capital to raise the productivity of labor and make society as a whole more prosperous.

    Economic ignorance is the mainstay of the Democrat Party.


    Would you please take your Thorazine before posting? icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 06, 2011 5:46 PM GMT
    Jockfever, lets be realistic here, the 50's through the 90's were some of the most prosperous years in US history and the American Middle class and Unions were strong, taxes generally were higher on corps and the rich, it was good for all concerned . Enter the latter 90's efforts finally succeeding in taking away protections for the US workers, subsidies were provided to asist Corps leaving the US with their jobs, deregulations of banks and wallstreet were enacted against the good of the public but better for the Corps bottom line. Enter the 2000's and take away the taxes for the very wealthy and the Corps and even more regulations. and here we are in the worst US recession since the depression days and right back to depression times disparity in wealth. the middle class is disappearing and the repubs even want to do away with more safety net programs, right down to Social Security, taking us back to the 30's. What's that old saying ? Those who forget the past, are condemned to repeat it !!!!

    Whose policies caused this problem ?
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    Sep 06, 2011 6:20 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie said
    Scruffypup said
    mocktwinkie said
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    mocktwinkie saidSo, in other words, "work" is independent of "money" and "people" are more important than "money. And your point is? I think everyone would agree with this.



    Do you really? Then please explain why so many faggot Republicans are so eager to vote away our rights just to save a buck on their taxes.


    What makes you think that voting in favor of saving some money on taxes has to do with taking away someone's rights? wtf



    Have you LOOKED at the Republican candidates and their agenda??? You can't pick one good thing and leave the rest. When you pick a party, you get EVERYTHING they stand for.


    Simplistic minds put for simplistic ideas, but it doesn't change the complexities of life. When you voted for Obama you voted AGAINST marriage equality because you supported "the whole package".



    Speaking of "simplistic." Dude.....Obama was the best option we had. There were MANY things I disliked about Obama and still do! But look at the progress we've made. And don't even mention when Bushy took a big stinking dump on the President's desk before he left, we now call the "recession." All of the major Republican runners have taken a VOW to "investigate" the LGBT community if they win the office. So keep voting Republican, but don't wimper when they're rounding us all up for quarantine.


    And now all of a sudden you seem able to grasp the "best option available" concept, rather than the "if you support this candidate you support EVERYTHING they stand for"! Congratulations! You're maturing.

    Do you think I've supported or will support "everything" the GOP does? Not even close.
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    jockfever saidScruffypup: Do you really? Then please explain why so many faggot Republicans are so eager to vote away our rights just to save a buck on their taxes.

    jockfever: Fortunately some gay men place having a free and prosperous society ahead of the militant gay agenda.

    What fucking part of ME being FREE to live the life I want, marry the person I want, free from discrimination, is against "a free(repeat;FREE) and prosperous society"? Answer the fucking question!
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    Sep 07, 2011 12:53 PM GMT
    Christian73: Would you please take your Thorazine before posting?

    jockfever: Would you please read "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" before posting?
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    TropicalMark: What f**king part of ME being FREE to live the life I want, marry the person I want, free from discrimination, is against a FREE and prosperous society"? Answer the f**king question!

    jockfever: The part of you that supports Statists like Obama, Pelosi, Reid, even though they are destroying the freedom and prosperity of the country as a whole.
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    Sep 07, 2011 1:14 PM GMT
    jockfever saidChristian73: Would you please take your Thorazine before posting?

    jockfever: Would you please read "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" before posting?


    I'm not the one posting crazed ravings that are not only factually untrue but demonstrate potential delusional beliefs.
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    Sep 08, 2011 1:29 AM GMT
    jockfever said Fortunately some gay men place having a free and prosperous society ahead of the militant gay agenda.



    And you wonder how you got the label "self loathing." icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 08, 2011 1:32 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    Scruffypup said
    mocktwinkie said
    Scruffypup said
    mocktwinkie said
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    mocktwinkie saidSo, in other words, "work" is independent of "money" and "people" are more important than "money. And your point is? I think everyone would agree with this.



    Do you really? Then please explain why so many faggot Republicans are so eager to vote away our rights just to save a buck on their taxes.


    What makes you think that voting in favor of saving some money on taxes has to do with taking away someone's rights? wtf



    Have you LOOKED at the Republican candidates and their agenda??? You can't pick one good thing and leave the rest. When you pick a party, you get EVERYTHING they stand for.


    Simplistic minds put for simplistic ideas, but it doesn't change the complexities of life. When you voted for Obama you voted AGAINST marriage equality because you supported "the whole package".



    Speaking of "simplistic." Dude.....Obama was the best option we had. There were MANY things I disliked about Obama and still do! But look at the progress we've made. And don't even mention when Bushy took a big stinking dump on the President's desk before he left, we now call the "recession." All of the major Republican runners have taken a VOW to "investigate" the LGBT community if they win the office. So keep voting Republican, but don't wimper when they're rounding us all up for quarantine.


    And now all of a sudden you seem able to grasp the "best option available" concept, rather than the "if you support this candidate you support EVERYTHING they stand for"! Congratulations! You're maturing.

    Do you think I've supported or will support "everything" the GOP does? Not even close.



    It's not a matter of "maturing", it's a matter of me using the wrong word. I should never have said "support." What I meant to say is....when you support a candidate, you are helping that candidate achieve EVERYTHING they stand for.