Judy Garland

  • metta

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    Sep 07, 2011 4:51 PM GMT
    Judy’s Connection to Her Many Gays Fans

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    http://versmagazine.com/features/33-judys-connection-to-her-gay-fans
  • hawkeye7

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    Sep 07, 2011 6:15 PM GMT
    Well she was just amazing, but her death led to our birth. The anger of the Stonewall riots was fueled by her funeral earlier in the day. We owe her.
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    Sep 07, 2011 6:19 PM GMT
    hawkeye7 saidWell she was just amazing, but her death led to our birth. The anger of the Stonewall riots was fueled by her funeral earlier in the day. We owe her.


    That's an urban legend. It's not true.
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    Sep 07, 2011 6:44 PM GMT
    I never got the Judy gene. I don't understand her appeal. Could I possibly be straight and don't know it?
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    Sep 07, 2011 6:47 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidI never got the Judy gene. I don't understand her appeal. Could I possibly be straight and don't know it?

    I loved The Wozard of Oz, but other than that...I'm not a big Judy fanatic.

    Having said that, as hard as I tried not to....I still had to pop in to see what was being said when I saw her name...lol.
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    Sep 07, 2011 6:58 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidI never got the Judy gene. I don't understand her appeal. Could I possibly be straight and don't know it?


    Neither did I. I say you and me discuss this over beers and a naked-wrestling oil pit.
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    Sep 07, 2011 8:14 PM GMT
    BTW. this article was written by a RJ member. icon_smile.gif
  • hawkeye7

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    Sep 07, 2011 8:15 PM GMT
    endo said
    hawkeye7 saidWell she was just amazing, but her death led to our birth. The anger of the Stonewall riots was fueled by her funeral earlier in the day. We owe her.


    That's an urban legend. It's not true.


    Not true. The funeral took place on Friday and the NYPD admitted years later that they knew there would be a larger than average bar crowd. The bar raids had been going on for months but the heat wave was having a very adverse effect on the city.
    It is pretty well documented.
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    Sep 08, 2011 12:49 AM GMT
    hawkeye7 said
    endo said
    hawkeye7 saidWell she was just amazing, but her death led to our birth. The anger of the Stonewall riots was fueled by her funeral earlier in the day. We owe her.


    That's an urban legend. It's not true.


    Not true. The funeral took place on Friday and the NYPD admitted years later that they knew there would be a larger than average bar crowd. The bar raids had been going on for months but the heat wave was having a very adverse effect on the city.
    It is pretty well documented.


    It is not well documented at all. It's a myth. No credible source has ever attributed Judy Garland's funeral as a significant factor in the Stonewall riots. I have seen many documentaries about Stonewall in which this very topic is discussed. Stonewall vets say it's not true. In the most recent doc on PBS, it wasn't even mentioned.

    Bob Kohler, who witnessed the riots and knew many people involved, said, "When people talk about Judy Garland's death having anything much to do with the riot, that makes me crazy. The street kids faced death every day. They had nothing to lose. And they couldn't have cared less about Judy. We're talking about kids who were fourteen, fifteen, sixteen. Judy Garland was the middle-aged darling of the middle-class gays. I get upset about this because it trivializes the whole thing."

  • sonnet129

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    Sep 08, 2011 1:04 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidI never got the Judy gene. I don't understand her appeal. Could I possibly be straight and don't know it?


    That's probably it.
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    Sep 08, 2011 1:21 AM GMT
    Oh, Judy. She seems to interweave herself into the most poignant moments in my life. When she sings, I feel like she's singing to me. Guess I'm honestly and truly gay. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 08, 2011 5:06 AM GMT
    she knew she was in the sympathy business . . . and I do like her
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    Sep 09, 2011 2:59 AM GMT
    I just got a credit card payment from Liza. It has her signature on it. Im not a fan but I would feel like a bad gay if it shredded it so I have it on my desk.
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    Sep 09, 2011 3:37 AM GMT
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    For any guys not around to have ever heard this lady sing - here she is. At the end of this number, you'll see why so many millions of us love her.

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  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 09, 2011 3:37 AM GMT
    I like the Kansas connection the best.... LOL

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    Sep 09, 2011 3:53 AM GMT
    I was 10 y/o that summer when she died--- I remember being sad that she had died and I recall the news footage from London on our old black and white television. At that time, I only knew her from Oz but came to love her other movies---my favorite Meet Me In St.Louis and my favorite song--

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    Sep 09, 2011 3:55 AM GMT
    I didn't know her that well but know she was very talented
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    Sep 09, 2011 3:55 AM GMT
    I love Judy....one of the greatest entertainers of all time (singer, dancer, actress) - a rarity in today's world where so many so called entertainers need multiple takes to get the script right.

    Ironically, she was insecure about her looks because MGM executives thought she didn't have that glamorous 'look' yet she was a perfectionist in her craft as an artist.

    Had she won the Oscar for 'A Star is Born'...perhaps she may have lived much longer.

    Do I care what other think? Here's my response

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    Sep 09, 2011 4:03 AM GMT
    This gets me every time:

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    Sep 09, 2011 4:04 AM GMT
    I recently read a biography on the life of Peter Allen and I never knew anything about her but she and Liza played a major part in his life as a performer. Was even speculation as to whether Vincent minelli was a closet case. Was a very interesting read. She was an total party animal. She lived life in the fast lane.
  • Musicman91

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    Sep 09, 2011 4:12 AM GMT
    Love Judy! This is one of my favorites:


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    Sep 09, 2011 4:52 AM GMT
    My partner met her in a Boston gay bar shortly before her death. She wandered in there by herself (no, not a drag queen, she was in Boston on some business, a trip documented in a biography of her). He said she looked pretty haggard, very thin, but was personally funny and charming.

    Except she declined to sing when requested, said she was too tired. So several of the guys began to serenade her instead, including my partner. Finally she said no, no, no, in a comically exasperated way, you're getting it all wrong, and took over from them.

    Judy was my top female screen idol growing up, all the others being men. When she had a weekly TV program in the early 1960s I never missed a show. I found it amusing when I learned after I came out that she was a gay icon, thinking to myself it was yet another sign that I had managed to miss or suppress. As well as learning the same thing about Bette Davis, Joan Crawford and other gay-iconic stars I enjoyed. I guess there really is a subconscious gay gene at work inside some of us.
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    Sep 10, 2011 12:43 AM GMT
    One of the all time greats. Wish I'd been born earlier. What would I give to attend one of her concerts? What a smash hit she was. Thanks for sharing these videos. I had no idea she was so tremendous!
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    Sep 10, 2011 1:00 AM GMT
    She had so many good songs it's hard to pick just one. Love 'Over the Rainbow' (of course), 'The Trolley Song,' 'Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas.'

    'The Man that Got Away' is the best of the bunch though.

    My favorite Judy song (and the story of my life icon_sad.gif). Miss the days when singers had talent instead of silly costumes:



    The night is bitter,
    The stars have lost their glitter;
    The winds grow colder
    And suddenly you're older -
    And all because of the man that got away.

    No more his eager call,
    The writing's on the wall;
    The dreams you dreamed have all
    Gone astray.

    The man that won you
    Has gone off and undone you.
    That great beginning
    Has seen the final inning.
    Don't know what happened. It's all a crazy game!

    No more that all-time thrill,
    For you've been through the mill -
    And never a new love will
    Be the same.

    Good riddance, good-bye!
    Ev'ry trick of his you're on to.
    But, fools will be fools -
    And where's he gone to?

    The road gets rougher,
    It's lonelier and tougher.
    With hope you burn up -
    Tomorrow he may turn up.
    There's just no letup the live-long night and day!

    Ever since this world began
    There is nothing sadder than
    A one-man woman looking for
    The man that got away....
    The man that got away.



  • metta

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    Sep 10, 2011 1:07 AM GMT