Republican 6 points up in Weiner district - Democrats outnumber Republicans 3 to 1; absolute panic appears to be spreading among national Democrats

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    Sep 09, 2011 9:54 PM GMT
    2 articles quoted - first deals with the campaign status, second the money being pumped in by a very alarmed national Democratic Committee

    Race for Weiner's Old Seat Could Turn on Jewish Votes for Catholic Republican
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/09/race-for-weiners-old-seat-could-turn-on-jewish-votes-for-catholic-republican/?test=latestnews

    The race to replace disgraced politician Anthony Weiner in a heavily Democratic and heavily Jewish district is surprisingly close, as the GOP candidate makes inroads with voters by turning the race into a referendum on President Obama's policies on Israel and the economy.

    With days to go before the Sept. 13 special election, Republican businessman Bob Turner is six points up over Democratic Assemblyman David Weprin in a new poll, though the two have been within a few points of one another for weeks.

    The edge for Turner wouldn't be too unusual except for the fact that registered Democrats outnumber Republicans in the Brooklyn-Queens district by about three-to-one.

    Though Weprin has a fundraising advantage and racked up support from many big-name Democrats, including New York's two U.S. senators, Kirsten Gillibrand and Chuck Schumer, as well as Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, Turner has managed to stay competitive in part by keeping Obama's policies front-and-center in the race.

    Turner told Fox News that voters are seeing this election as a "referendum" on Obama, which he conceded is making his job easier considering the president's approval ratings are at record lows.

    "I think the momentum is shifting our way," he claimed.

    On Israel, Turner and his supporters have been hammering the message that a vote for Turner is a vote to repudiate Obama's Israel policies -- though Turner is a Catholic and Weprin is an Orthodox Jew.

    "The election of a Republican here in this district, which is so heavily blue, will send a resounding message to the president that his policies on the Israeli question will not be tolerated," Turner pronounced Tuesday on former Gov. David Paterson's radio show.

    Turner has an echo chamber at his disposal pushing the same line. In a big get for the candidate, former New York City Mayor Ed Koch -- who is Jewish and a Democrat -- endorsed Turner over the summer. A quote in which Koch claimed a vote for Turner could cause an about-face in Obama's Israel policy now emblazons a campaign flier from the Republican Jewish Coalition. "Vote No to Obama/Weprin," the flier reads.

    Democratic Assemblyman Dov Hikind, also Jewish, endorsed Turner Wednesday, citing again Obama's "reckless" Israel policy as well as his economic policies.

    Costas Panagopoulos, a political science professor at Fordham University, said Turner's people have identified Israel as a "winnable" issue.

    "The campaigns have paid close attention to the demographics in this district," he said.

    The district is one of the most heavily Jewish in the state, comprising Orthodox and more liberal Jewish neighborhoods. It is also one of the most reliably Democratic, having elected only Democrats to the House since the 1920s. The district voted for Al Gore in the 2000 presidential race by more than a two-to-one margin. In the latest Siena College Research Institute poll, Weprin leads Turner among Jewish voters by just 6 points, 51-45.

    Panagopoulos noted that voters can't be taken for granted.

    "Jewish voters are more apt to support Democratic candidates but when they have a reason not to they may turn to the other side or they may simply opt out. ... Either way, it would create a problem for Democrats."

    Other factors also plain in the race. Included in the Siena poll out Friday was a finding that Turner has a much stronger lead among Republicans than Weprin does among Democrats. In Friday's poll, Turner was drawing 90 percent of Republicans and 32 percent of Democrats compared to Weprin, who attracted 63 percent of Democrats but only 6 percent of Republicans.

    Panagopoulos said Weprin's also being hurt by the national landscape, and national frustration with the state of the economy -- as well as the fact that the departed congressman, who resigned at the height of a salacious sexting scandal, was a Democrat.

    Weprin has insisted that his stance on Israel should not be in question, regardless of what some voters might think about Obama's.

    "I'm very much committed to the security of the state of Israel, and to keep that very special relationship that the United States has had with Israel," he said on Paterson's show. "I've actually been particularly critical of the president of my own party on that issue, because he made a couple of statements that I thought were wrong."

    Weprin has criticized Obama for publicly calling for Israel to return to its pre-1967 borders, and for his treatment of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

    But The Jewish Voice, which endorsed Turner, claimed Weprin has not challenged Obama enough on the topic. The newspaper also slammed Weprin -- calling him "ostensibly an Orthodox Jew" -- for voting in favor of New York's same-sex marriage law.

    Weprin's campaign did not return a request for comment from FoxNews.com, but with just days to go, the assemblyman is going on air in the pricey district with a new ad hammering Turner for pushing "Tea Party budget ideas."

    The ad, reportedly paid for in part by a nearly $500,000 buy from the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, warned that those ideas would force reductions in Medicare and Social Security benefits, and it urged voters to support the candidate of "fiscal rationality," i.e. Weprin.

    "The more voters learn about David Weprin and Bob Turner, the more they reject Turner's radical views," campaign spokeswoman Liz Kerr said in a statement.

    Turner told MyFox New York that he's not a "member" of the Tea Party but does like some of their "principles."

    The Siena poll take Tuesday-Thursday of 866 likely district voters had a 3.3. percent margin of error.

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    Cash Pours Into Weiner Race - only excerpts below due to message length limit
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903285704576559063689389394.html?mod=WSJ_NY_LEFTTopStories&mg=com-wsj

    National Democrats are pumping about $600,000 into next week's special election to succeed former Rep. Anthony Weiner—the first big-dollar external spending on a race that was never supposed to be this expensive, or this close.

    The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee bought about $500,000 worth of television ads for the final days before the election, according to a person familiar with the purchase. A spokesman for the committee didn't confirm the total dollar value spent on the ads. Another Democratic group, House Majority PAC, bought about $100,000 worth of additional ads.
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    The Democratic candidate, Assemblyman David Weprin, has met with unexpected difficultly from Republican Bob Turner—and the once-sleepy race is now considered a possible measure of national disaffection with President Barack Obama.
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    William O'Reilly, a spokesman for Mr. Turner, said the Democrats appear to be panicking. "They are pumping every boot, dollar, and mail piece they can find'' into the district, he said.

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    Sep 09, 2011 10:03 PM GMT
    And you fucking right wingers deny anything has to do with 'religion' when it comes to politics! Keep it coming.. it just solidifies and concretes in your denials.
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    Sep 09, 2011 10:28 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidAnd you fucking right wingers deny anything has to do with 'religion' when it comes to politics! Keep it coming.. it just solidifies and concretes in your denials.

    This might be an advanced concept for you to grasp, but the issue is not about the Jewish religion and it's teachings, but Jews as a historically key demographic for the Democrats that is rejecting Obama for the economy and his policies towards Israel.
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    Sep 09, 2011 10:30 PM GMT
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    TropicalMark saidAnd you fucking right wingers deny anything has to do with 'religion' when it comes to politics! Keep it coming.. it just solidifies and concretes in your denials.

    This might be an advanced concept for you to grasp, but the issue is not about the Jewish religion and it's teachings, but Jews as a historically key demographic for the Democrats that is rejecting Obama for the economy and his policies towards Israel.
    The entire article is flush with "jewish" and "catholic".. nothing do to with what the candidates can, have or will do.
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    Sep 09, 2011 10:35 PM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    TropicalMark saidAnd you fucking right wingers deny anything has to do with 'religion' when it comes to politics! Keep it coming.. it just solidifies and concretes in your denials.

    This might be an advanced concept for you to grasp, but the issue is not about the Jewish religion and it's teachings, but Jews as a historically key demographic for the Democrats that is rejecting Obama for the economy and his policies towards Israel.
    The entire article is flush with "jewish" and "catholic".. nothing do to with what the candidates can, have or will do.

    All about demographics, not Jewish or Catholic religious positions. And doesn't look good for the Democrats.

    Even if the Democrat should win, the numbers in this extremely heavy Democratic district will be a major message against the administration's policies.
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    Sep 09, 2011 11:50 PM GMT
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    socalfitness said
    Even if the Democrat should win, the numbers in this extremely heavy Democratic district will be a major message against the administration's policies.

    Uh huh. But when the Democrat beat the Republican upstate in a special election in a heavily Republican district, it was meaningless and had only to do with local issues.

    (snicker)

    Oh, and when the Democrats also nearly captured the Wisconsin Senate, the message was all about failure, not about how taking two seats away from Republicans sent a "major message".

    This is sooooo transparent and actually very funny.


    The democrats only captured the seats that they were predicted to win.
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    Sep 10, 2011 12:54 AM GMT
    jprichva said
    socalfitness said
    Even if the Democrat should win, the numbers in this extremely heavy Democratic district will be a major message against the administration's policies.

    Uh huh. But when the Democrat beat the Republican upstate in a special election in a heavily Republican district, it was meaningless and had only to do with local issues.

    (snicker)

    Oh, and when the Democrats also nearly captured the Wisconsin Senate, the message was all about failure, not about how taking two seats away from Republicans sent a "major message".

    This is sooooo transparent and actually very funny.

    Attention - news for JP - The major campaign issues in this contest are the economy and the policies of this Administration towards Israel. Guess what? They are not local issues. And when support crumbles among a traditionally loyal group, big big problems.

    (And yes - the goal of the Democrats in Wisconsin was to take over the Senate, which they did not, by the way. But we digress.)
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    Sep 10, 2011 1:05 AM GMT
    There may be more to the situation than meets the eye -- and yes, it's related to the Jewish and Catholic issues, National Organization for Marriage (NOM), retaliation for the gay marriage vote, etc:

    From Joe My God's blog:

    Orthodox Rabbinical Edict: It Is Against Torah Law To Vote For David Weprin

    NOM is doing an excellent job of stoking the fires of anti-gay hatred among New York's Orthodox Jews. Today several dozen Brooklyn rabbis issued a letter declaring that to vote for Assemblyman David Weprin is a violation of the Torah. Because he voted for same-sex marriage.

    “Weprin’s claim that he is Orthodox makes the chillul Hashem even greater,” states the letter signed by the Flatbush rabbonim. The letter states that it is therefore Assur“ [forbidden according to Torah law] to vote for, campaign for, fund or otherwise support the campaign of NY State Assemblyman David Weprin.” The letter contains several non-Flatbush signatories, most notably Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky and Rav Simcha Bunim Cohen. Many are upset about Mr. Weprin’s vote earlier this year in Albany to legalize same gender marriage in New York state, and particularly that Mr. Weprin cited his Orthodox Jewish faith as a reason to vote for the bill. The district that Weprin and his opponent, Republican Bob Turner, are vying for covers parts of Queens and Brooklyn and has a 3-to-1 Democratic registration advantage.


    And an earlier article on JMG:

    NOM is spending $75,000 in support of Bob Turner, the GOP candidate hoping to replace Rep. Anthony Weiner. NOM doesn't necessarily like Turner, he's just not David Weprin, the state assemblyman who voted to approve same-sex marriage.

    The organization disclosed in a filing with the Federal Election Commission on Tuesday that it spent $26,000 on direct-mail advertising in opposition to Mr. Weprin, who voted in favor of the marriage bill, and $19,000 in support of his Republican opponent, Bob Turner, who opposes same-sex marriage. Brian S. Brown, the president of the National Organization for Marriage, said in a telephone interview that the group planned to spend more money, about $30,000, on automated phone calls, additional mailings and get-out-the-vote efforts before the election, scheduled for Tuesday. “David Weprin made a terrible mistake when he voted for same-sex marriage,” Mr. Brown said, “and I think his community is going to hold him accountable.”
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    Sep 10, 2011 1:07 AM GMT
    This is what Obama-Pelosi-Reid has done to the party of Jackson, Bryan, Roosevelt, Truman, Stevenson, Johnson, Humphrey, and Clinton.

    So, so sad and so very predictable.
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    Sep 10, 2011 1:22 AM GMT
    TroyAthlete saidThis is what Obama-Pelosi-Reid has done to the party of Jackson, Bryan, Roosevelt, Truman, Stevenson, Johnson, Humphrey, and Clinton.

    So, so sad and so very predictable.

    Absolutely agree. When one party veers significantly away from center, it motivates the other party to do the same. If there were Democrats in charge with different economic policies, then it would be easier for moderates to repudiate some of the religious positions from the right. The way it is now, you have to decide which is more important, the well being of the country or rejecting some rigid positions.