Former Mass. speaker DiMasi sentenced to 8 years on corruption charges

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    Sep 10, 2011 4:06 PM GMT
    Let's play spot the party?

    http://www.boston.com/Boston/metrodesk/2011/09/dimasi-sentenced-years-corruption-charges/npmq08ytxUqtsD2DVfyseN/index.html?p1=News_links

    Noting that DiMasi was the third Massachusetts House speaker in a row to be convicted in federal court, Wolf also said he was disturbed that DiMasi still had support from some lawmakers who felt he had done nothing wrong. Wolf said he felt the case showed that corruption was a regular occurrence on Beacon Hill.

    DiMasi had no comment after the hearing. He stood by as his lawyer, Thomas Kiley, said, “A chapter is closed. We’re happy to be past it. The next chapter in this judicial proceeding will be in the First Circuit [federal appeals court in Boston]. That’s all we have to say.”
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    Sep 10, 2011 4:14 PM GMT
    Why, oh Riddler who art in Canada, why do you post such political games? Here's another one that you could have easily posted as well. (I happen to know about it because I live in PA. Do you live in Mass.?)

    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/politics&id=8337014HARRISBURG, Pa. - August 31, 2011 (WPVI) -- The onetime speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives pleaded guilty Wednesday to eight criminal charges stemming from a public corruption investigation, making him the highest-ranking state politician to be convicted in the four-and-a-half-year inquiry.


    Guess what his party is?
    Am I saying corruption is only in Republicans? No, but it's clear that your posts consistently highlight Democrats, and that's just selective.

    same articleThe criminal charges grew from an investigation into the alleged misuse of government resources and employees. The inquiry was triggered by the disclosure in January 2007 that millions in bonuses had been quietly handed out to legislative employees.

    Fifteen people connected to the House Democratic caucus were charged, including former Rep. Mike Veon, D-Beaver, now serving a state prison sentence after being convicted by a jury with two other defendants. Two other defendants were acquitted, seven pleaded guilty and three, including current state Rep. Bill DeWeese, D-Greene, await trial.

    No charges have been filed against any current state senators, or their employees, although Sen. Jane Orie, R-Allegheny, is awaiting trial on similar charges filed by a county district attorney.
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    Sep 10, 2011 4:24 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidWhy, oh Riddler who art in Canada, why do you post such political games? Here's another one that you could have easily posted as well. (I happen to know about it because I live in PA. Do you live in Mass.?)

    http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/politics&id=8337014HARRISBURG, Pa. - August 31, 2011 (WPVI) -- The onetime speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives pleaded guilty Wednesday to eight criminal charges stemming from a public corruption investigation, making him the highest-ranking state politician to be convicted in the four-and-a-half-year inquiry.


    Guess what his party is?
    Am I saying corruption is only in Republicans? No, but it's clear that your posts consistently highlight Democrats, and that's just selective.

    same articleThe criminal charges grew from an investigation into the alleged misuse of government resources and employees. The inquiry was triggered by the disclosure in January 2007 that millions in bonuses had been quietly handed out to legislative employees.

    Fifteen people connected to the House Democratic caucus were charged, including former Rep. Mike Veon, D-Beaver, now serving a state prison sentence after being convicted by a jury with two other defendants. Two other defendants were acquitted, seven pleaded guilty and three, including current state Rep. Bill DeWeese, D-Greene, await trial.

    No charges have been filed against any current state senators, or their employees, although Sen. Jane Orie, R-Allegheny, is awaiting trial on similar charges filed by a county district attorney.


    At least they posted party throughout the article whereas in the original one they do no such thing. In fact they neither use the words Democrat nor Republican.
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    Sep 10, 2011 4:26 PM GMT
    Riddler don't try to go one-for-one on which party is more corrupt. It won't end well for those you support. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 10, 2011 4:28 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidRiddler don't try to go one-for-one on which party is more corrupt. It won't end well for those you support. icon_lol.gif


    I'm not saying which one is more corrupt - I actually suspect it's the Democrats but the fact is, the media underreports party identification when it comes to Democrats. That said, I don't support the Republicans either. I think it's foolish to identify by party.

    What is the bigger story here though is that there are those still in the House who support DiMasi and believe he did nothing wrong.

    The reality is that the more spending and the more regulation the greater temptation there is for corruption and graft.
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    Sep 10, 2011 4:40 PM GMT
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    Christian73 saidRiddler don't try to go one-for-one on which party is more corrupt. It won't end well for those you support. icon_lol.gif


    I'm not saying which one is more corrupt - I actually suspect it's the Democrats but the fact is, the media underreports party identification when it comes to Democrats. That said, I don't support the Republicans either. I think it's foolish to identify by party.

    What is the bigger story here though is that there are those still in the House who support DiMasi and believe he did nothing wrong.

    The reality is that the more spending and the more regulation the greater temptation there is for corruption and graft.


    Do you watch American news or read American papers? Because what you're saying is SO far from true, I have to believe you're just ignorant.
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    Sep 10, 2011 4:43 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    Christian73 saidRiddler don't try to go one-for-one on which party is more corrupt. It won't end well for those you support. icon_lol.gif


    I'm not saying which one is more corrupt - I actually suspect it's the Democrats but the fact is, the media underreports party identification when it comes to Democrats. That said, I don't support the Republicans either. I think it's foolish to identify by party.

    What is the bigger story here though is that there are those still in the House who support DiMasi and believe he did nothing wrong.

    The reality is that the more spending and the more regulation the greater temptation there is for corruption and graft.


    Do you watch American news or read American papers? Because what you're saying is SO far from true, I have to believe you're just ignorant.


    Yes I do papers primarily, not so much watch news of any sort anywhere unless I'm in an airport - and the differences in reporting on corruption on Republicans versus Democrats is striking. But I stand by the original statement - more spending and greater regulation will result in greater corruption.

    In this case, what makes it more remarkable is the fact that there are those who still believe that DiMasi didn't do anything wrong.
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    Sep 10, 2011 4:56 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidDo you watch American news or read American papers? Because what you're saying is SO far from true, I have to believe you're just ignorant.

    Perhaps he does get them up in Canada where he lives. This hatred of the US is remarkable. Perhaps he's being sponsored by someone? Who knows.

    But his lack of credentials, and lack of knowledge of the US, is very apparent. Why he has this obsession with attacking us is not clear to me.
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    Christian73 saidRiddler don't try to go one-for-one on which party is more corrupt. It won't end well for those you support. icon_lol.gif


    I'm not saying which one is more corrupt - I actually suspect it's the Democrats but the fact is, the media underreports party identification when it comes to Democrats. That said, I don't support the Republicans either. I think it's foolish to identify by party.

    What is the bigger story here though is that there are those still in the House who support DiMasi and believe he did nothing wrong.

    The reality is that the more spending and the more regulation the greater temptation there is for corruption and graft.

    I will just comment that although Riddler's primary residence may be in Canada, his business activities are also in the US and his knowledge of both US business and US economics greatly surpass that of most US citizens, especially those on the left and even some who post in RJ. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 10, 2011 6:12 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    Christian73 saidRiddler don't try to go one-for-one on which party is more corrupt. It won't end well for those you support. icon_lol.gif


    I'm not saying which one is more corrupt - I actually suspect it's the Democrats but the fact is, the media underreports party identification when it comes to Democrats. That said, I don't support the Republicans either. I think it's foolish to identify by party.

    What is the bigger story here though is that there are those still in the House who support DiMasi and believe he did nothing wrong.

    The reality is that the more spending and the more regulation the greater temptation there is for corruption and graft.

    I will just comment that although Riddler's primary residence may be in Canada, his business activities are also in the US and his knowledge of both US business and US economics greatly surpass that of most US citizens, especially those on the left and even some who post in RJ. icon_lol.gif


    You're entitled to your extremely biased opinion. icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 10, 2011 6:52 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidYou're entitled to your extremely biased opinion. icon_wink.gif

    And yours isn't, with all due respect?

    jprichva saidI'm sorry, John, that's just nuts. Riddler's understanding of business and finance is easily surpassed by a first-grader even in one of America's most underperforming schools.

    He is not---how can I put this politely?---well-schooled in these things. And I'm only being polite 'cause I'm talking to you.

    I do appreciate the politeness, and try for the same. Much of what Riddler quotes comes from publications such as the Wall Street Journal. His own comments are quite consistent with a number of columnists, analysts, and outside economists who publish there and in other outlets. So if his understanding is as you suggest, so would be that of many who publish daily.
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    Christian73 saidYou're entitled to your extremely biased opinion. icon_wink.gif

    And yours isn't, with all due respect?

    jprichva saidI'm sorry, John, that's just nuts. Riddler's understanding of business and finance is easily surpassed by a first-grader even in one of America's most underperforming schools.

    He is not---how can I put this politely?---well-schooled in these things. And I'm only being polite 'cause I'm talking to you.

    I do appreciate the politeness, and try for the same. Much of what Riddler quotes comes from publications such as the Wall Street Journal. His own comments are quite consistent with a number of columnists, analysts, and outside economists who publish there and in other outlets. So if his understanding is as you suggest, so would be that of many who publish daily.


    Thanks Socal - of course we must all have a little perspective and patience with jprich as he dreams of one day attaining the same level of understanding of business or finance of any first grader at one of America's most underperforming schools. How can anyone expect him to possibly know, after all, what he does not know? ;)
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    Sep 11, 2011 2:30 AM GMT
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