God is in control of all of nature

  • twilight2010

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    Sep 13, 2011 8:28 AM GMT
    To those who do not believe that God does not control the Tsunamis and the earthquakes. This post is in response to the video posted in

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1704854?forumpage=20

    One thing that needs to be made very clear is this. First of all. God will deal with sin and act by His will and not the will of others. Our ways are not His ways. God has a reason for what He does and He does not need to explain it to no one.

    Secondly in the time of Noah yes God wiped out the entire worlds population because truthfully they were all full of evil. God did the same when Sodom and Gomorrah were rained down upon with fire. God does not sleep and He will not be silent. How do we know? Because the Bible tells us so.

    Have you seen how Japan treats the creation of God. Have you seen what they do to the whales,dolphins? Can you see the cruelty? There are so many false godless religions in Japan. Why would God not be attentive to His Creations cries for help. Was these reasons for Gods acting on Japan? We are not God and cannot say. God has His reasons.

    The blood cries out to God. God did not make these animals for food for people. They are here to show His Glory and Majesty. Many countries abuse God's creation and do they think God will not act.

    Revelation 11:18
    New International Version (NIV)

    18 The nations were angry,
    and your wrath has come.
    The time has come for judging the dead,
    and for rewarding your servants the prophets
    and your people who revere your name,
    both great and small—
    and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”

    Destroy Gods creation and He will According to Him not me His Words are truth, He will destroy you

    Did God send the Tsunami? Does God control the earthquakes and hurricanes. Does not everything obey God?

    There will be great earthquakes, and in various places famines and pestilences. And there will be terrors and great signs from heaven.”- Luke 21:10-11.


    A sign, what is a sign? It’s a pointer; it’s an indicator that is meant to aid our perception
    or insight or knowledge of something.

    the sign is from where? It’s from heaven, which means what? The sign comes from who? The sign comes from God.

    Isaiah 45:5-7. “I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no God; I equip you, though you do not know me, that people may know, from the rising of the sun and from the west, that there is none besides me; I am the LORD, and there is no other. I form light and create darkness, I make well being and create calamity, I am the LORD, who does all these things.” Deuteronomy 32:39; “

    See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive;I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand.”

    Turn away from sin, fear me. Tsunamis’ ought to put the fear of God into us. God is saying to us “Vengeance belongs to me and I will repay.” (Romans 12:19)

    It is God, not Satan, who controls the weather (Exodus 9:29; Psalm 135:6-7; Jeremiah 10:13).
    God controls the skies and the rain (Psalm 77:16-19).
    God controls the wind (Mark 4:35-41; Jeremiah 51:16).
    God upholds and sustains the universe (Hebrews 1:3).
    God has power over the clouds (Job 37:11-12, 16).
    God has power over lightning and Satan (Psalm 18:14).
    God has power over all nature (Job 26).

    I tell you this God is not ashamed, He is not to be mocked, He is not to blasphemed,he doesn't hesitate to admit that he killed their young men with the Sword, not like some professing Christians who want to cower away that admitting that hurricanes and calamities and ruthless rulers and all that, that there not according to The Lords design.

    If a calamity occurs in a city has not the LORD done it? (Amos 3:6).

    But can we say as humans why God brought the Tsunami? No. God has His reasons. What ever they are the were enough to bring calamity on the people of Japan.

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    Sep 13, 2011 3:44 PM GMT

    Oh yes, back to your cold implacable god, impatient of worthless Man, waiting for an unwary, unguarded moment to strike him down in his sin.

    I prefer Christ's god, thank you very much.

    Never mind the hard science behind earthquakes and tsunamis. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 13, 2011 4:34 PM GMT
    meninlove saidNever mind the hard science behind earthquakes and tsunamis. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Apparently, you haven't noticed that God never! sends earthquakes and tsunamis to Christian countries, like Chile.
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    meninlove saidNever mind the hard science behind earthquakes and tsunamis. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Apparently, you haven't noticed that God never! sends earthquakes and tsunamis to Christian countries, like Chile.


    rofl, good one.


    He also rips open holes in the ozone layer to fry 'em. icon_wink.gif


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    You are one horrible person, Donovan, and I don't think you're christian at all, you just delusionally think you are.

    God apparently was going to spare sodom and gomorrah if Lot could find just ten good people in them.

    Japan has over 2 million christians.

    As for the Flood,

    " And I establish My covenant with you; and all flesh shall never again be cut off by the water of the flood, neither shall there again be a flood to destroy the earth. And God said, “This is the sign of the covenant which I am making between Me and you and every living creature that is with you, for all successive generations; I set My bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a sign of a covenant between Me and the earth. And it shall come about, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud, and I will remember My covenant, which is between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and never again shall the water become a flood to destroy all flesh. (NASB) Genesis 9:11-15"

    For god's sake, wake up!
  • Delivis

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    Sep 13, 2011 6:12 PM GMT
    The crazy is strong in this one.
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    Matthew 5:45
    "that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous."

    Please Donovan, understand that He loves us all. When something like a Tsumani occurs, it cannot be construed as punishment to those that some deem unrighteous. It's a natural occurrence that is necessary to keep our planet in balance. If someone, whether righteous or unrighteous, happens to live in the area of disaster, too fucking bad. The population there just happened to live in the wrong place and wrong time.

    (Can you find some help from someone in your community who is a Bible scholar? Possibly you can understand the Bible better from someone who is learned. This is not a put down, but just fabricating bibical interpretations according to your whims is dangerous. This is how cults are formed.)




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    donovan1979 said

    If a calamity occurs in a city has not the LORD done it? (Amos 3:6).

    But can we say as humans why God brought the Tsunami? No. God has His reasons. What ever they are the were enough to bring calamity on the people of Japan.

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    Looking at the photo, I think it's that of Chicago, (the skyscraper at upper centre with the two aerials is the Sears Building) on the shores of Lake Michigan. If so, then a tsunami with such magnitude would be impossible, for even with a lake this size the overall water volume (the area of the surface and depth) would be too small to create such a wave.

    But with Donovon's background, I suspect he is Seventh Day Adventist (SDA). This particular group, like other fringe churches, disagree with the mainstream orthodox that they believe that the original Sabbath, a Saturday, must be kept by Christians to this day and relegate Sunday as the day of church attendance to be the work of the Devil.
  • twilight2010

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    Sep 14, 2011 6:13 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    Oh yes, back to your cold implacable god, impatient of worthless Man, waiting for an unwary, unguarded moment to strike him down in his sin.

    I prefer Christ's god, thank you very much.

    Never mind the hard science behind earthquakes and tsunamis. icon_rolleyes.gif


    I said that


    But can we say as humans why God brought the Tsunami? No. God has His reasons. What ever they are the were enough to bring calamity on the people of Japan.

    We cannot speak for God.

    If we are going to be honest here Dough the Bible does have many examples were God uses the wicked to punish Israel. This is written in the Bible. You see people rather do not want to accept the fact that God is in control of all things.

    Do you not hold firm to scripture. Man comes out and says God does not bring calamity onto people who are unrighteous. The Bible which is the Word of God says this

    Isaiah 45:5-7. “I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no God; I equip you, though you do not know me, that people may know, from the rising of the sun and from the west, that there is none besides me; I am the LORD, and there is no other. I form light and create darkness, I make well being and create calamity, I am the LORD, who does all these things.” Deuteronomy 32:39; “

    God does not agree with man. I understand Dough that the rule of love but sin cannot stand in the presence of the Almighty God. Like I said I am human and all I can say is I follow the Lord Jesus Christ I accept the Bible as sound doctrine, nothing else. I do not follow the teachings of men. I have had some email me and they say but the Bible is of man. My response to this is that the Holy Spirit told these men what to write.

    When you say you prefer Christ's God I do not understand what you mean because the God I accept is Yahweh and His Son Jesus Christ Yeshua who is the King of kings and Lord of lords. Dough let us be honest here. Anything i have said is not my words but the very words out of the Bible. God does bring calamity, the Bible says so. Please these words are from the Holy Spirit. Who is God.

    If a person is going to go by the Bible then indeed they have to accept this. If they do not go by the Bible then they do not have to accept this.

    Read Isaiah 45:5-7 again understand that the Holy Spirit is talking through Isaiah who is writing these very words. God says He brings calamity man comes along and says no. The Bible does tell us that all wind,snow, hail, rain, and waves all obey God. God tells every single lightning bolt were to go, what to hit. here is the proof.

    Nahum 1:3 The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.

    Jonah 1:4 But the LORD sent out a great wind into the sea, and there was a mighty tempest in the sea, so that the ship was like to be broken.

    Isaiah 29:6 "Thou shalt be visited of the Lord of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire."

    Job 37:3 "He directeth ... his lightning unto the ends of the earth."

    If a person is going to go according to the Bible then explain how these verses do not say God is in control of earthquakes, Tsunamis, winds.

    Dough if we take the Bible literally then how can we deny this? After all the Bible is the very WORDS OF THE ALMIGHTY GOD


  • twilight2010

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    Sep 14, 2011 6:32 AM GMT
    paradox said
    meninlove saidNever mind the hard science behind earthquakes and tsunamis. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Apparently, you haven't noticed that God never! sends earthquakes and tsunamis to Christian countries, like Chile.



    In those so called Christian areas there are abortions taking place. Do you have any idea how many abortions take place in United States every single day? And how about the world. Some even in certain countries eat these aborted babies.

    Just because a church has a sign saying we are of Christ and love Him makes them not a Christian, these same churches teach kill gays, murder them , burn them,

    I saw a poster of a solution to gay marriage which read hang them. these people have no idea what God really says about the gay issue. They should study the Greek New Testament. My point is this, just because their are places who claim to be very Christian they themselves are FAR from Christ. They teach you can eat unclean meat, do abortions, immortal souls that never die. These are lies made up by human doctrines, this is not the Bible.

    For Jesus said many will call Him Lord but He will say I do not know you. For they worship me in vain following the doctrines of man.

    Satan has entered the very heart of Christianity and he is in control deceiving everyone. The people who do not arm themselves with the Armor of God are going to find it very impossible to stand when the final days of great tribulation come upon the world. Our only hope is in Jesus Christ. God will not take us out of the way of harm in the tribulation but He does promise we will not have to suffer His wrath, the Wrath is coming and only His children will be marked with the seal of God and protected from the punishment God is going to send.

    These Tsunamis are nothing, read Revelation and see what is coming. Mountains and cities will be swallowed. Fire will burn the people. Please people these things are very serious. What when they start happening? Then do you run to God during the wrath of His anger, when the angels pour those bowls out it will be terrible.

    God has warned us before it happens those who want to listen they will those who don't they wont. Jesus is our only hope.

    Regarding Chile are they really God's people do they worship God and obey the first angels message which says

    Fear God give Glory to Him for the hour of His judgment has come. Worship Him who made the heavens and the earth and the springs and the seas.

    What ever God has his reasons for hitting Chile and Haiti and where ever else with the calamities by His power. we are sinners when we see these things we should repent and plead to God for Him to write our names in the book of life.
  • twilight2010

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    Sep 14, 2011 6:55 AM GMT
    NotThatOld said
    donovan1979 said

    If a calamity occurs in a city has not the LORD done it? (Amos 3:6).

    But can we say as humans why God brought the Tsunami? No. God has His reasons. What ever they are the were enough to bring calamity on the people of Japan.

    tidal-wave.jpg


    Looking at the photo, I think it's that of Chicago, (the skyscraper at upper centre with the two aerials is the Sears Building) on the shores of Lake Michigan. If so, then a tsunami with such magnitude would be impossible, for even with a lake this size the overall water volume (the area of the surface and depth) would be too small to create such a wave.

    But with Donovon's background, I suspect he is Seventh Day Adventist (SDA). This particular group, like other fringe churches, disagree with the mainstream orthodox that they believe that the original Sabbath, a Saturday, must be kept by Christians to this day and relegate Sunday as the day of church attendance to be the work of the Devil.


    With due respect to you I ask you these questions.

    Can you show me scripture proof that God has changed the Sabbath to Sunday? Can you show me that God has blessed Sunday? Can you show me that God has sanctified Sunday? Can you show me that God has changed the dietary law and we are as Christians allowed to eat pork and shellfish? Can you show me that we have immortal souls? Can you show me that there is a hell and people are burning in it now? Can you show me one place in the New Testament that explains the existance of Hell as eternal fire punishement? Can you show me that the wicked are going to burn in hell for ever and ever and ever?

    There are not one scripture that can justify any of these things.

    Do you understand what the Sabbath means to God? It is a seal of His authority.

    But sadly these so called pastors come and teach these things and one more thing they love is " You do not have to keep the Ten Commandments Jesus nailed them to the cross? Really. The Bible tells me something very different.

    I am a Christian and I will have the Bible as my Creed not these creeds made up at councils. My Creed is the heavenly Council where the Almighty God Holy Yahweh is seated in the Brightness of His Glory and Honor and I will be obedience to Him through His Son my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

    The Lord God has spoken through His scriptures the Sabbath is still in place and by the way the Sabbath will be kept in the new heavens and new earth and we will be herbivores once again, no more killing in any way. When that New Jerusalem comes out of heaven this is a new start of everlasting Glory to God.
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    Sorry, Donovan, I will not be told by YOU how to interpret the Bible!
  • twilight2010

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    Sep 14, 2011 12:02 PM GMT
    vincent7 saidSorry, Donovan, I will not be told by YOU how to interpret the Bible!


    Vincent I am not telling you how to interpret the Bible. The Bible does not need any man to explain it. It explains itself. The Word of God is crystal clear. If it says God brings calamity that it is what it means. Man cannot come and interpret for God. God says the Sabbath is the Seventh Day of the week. No one can change that. According to the Bible it is still in place.

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    lol, ok, now explain deformities of babies and how god caused that, too.

    (this just gets weirder and weirder, but nonetheless educational into the mind of the delusional)


    You've certainly demonstrated so far a very big reason why christianity is so hated by so many.



  • twilight2010

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    Sep 14, 2011 3:45 PM GMT
    meninlove said lol, ok, now explain deformities of babies and how god caused that, too.

    (this just gets weirder and weirder, but nonetheless educational into the mind of the delusional)


    You've certainly demonstrated so far a very big reason why christianity is so hated by so many.





    You are still unable to answer my questions, you are unable to say the Bible is the Word of God without fault. You are totally unable to refute the Word of God and you will never be able to no matter how hard you try.

    I am not God and i cannot answer your question on deformities. The Bible is clear God forms us in the womb. Yes some He does allow to be born in some different ways.

    Acts 3:1-12. In verse two it says the man had been lame FROM HIS MOTHER'S WOMB! A BIRTH DEFECT!

    Acts 14:8-10 .... a certain man at Lystra, impotent in his feet, being a cripple from his mother's womb, who never had walked: The same heard Paul speak: who stedfastly beholding him, and perceiving that he had faith to be healed, Said with a loud voice, Stand upright on thy feet. And he leaped and walked.

    “Though he slay me, yet will I hope in him” (Job 13:15). “The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away; may the name of the LORD be praised” (Job 1:21). Job didn’t understand why God had allowed the things He did, but he knew that God was good and therefore continued to trust in Him.

    Even though terrible things happened to Job. He still trusted God.

    But understand this. Satan can cause illness but he needs God's permission first. Just like God gave Satan permission to do certain things to Job but not allowed to kill him. We see that God does what God wants. We accept because God is righteous. Though you slay me i will trust in you.
  • twilight2010

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    Sep 14, 2011 3:51 PM GMT
    For Dough

    As recorded in John Chapter 9, Jesus saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?”

    “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life.”

    Australian Nick Vujicic– born without arms and legs– is a living example of that passage. We say the man has a birth defect. But after viewing this, I think I have a far more serious attitude defect.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl58qufXfYk&feature=player_embedded

    So according to Jesus Christ these birth defects happen so that these things can be used to show the work of God in these peoples lives.

    http://www.crossexamined.org/blog/?p=147
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    Donovan said, "I think I have a far more serious attitude defect."

    Oh, I quite agree.
  • twilight2010

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    Sep 14, 2011 4:00 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    Donovan said, "I think I have a far more serious attitude defect."

    Oh, I quite agree.


    No Dough I quoted another Christian on the youtube post above. i put it there so you can watch it. God does allow Birth defects. Who are we to even dare ask the question WHY does God allow this?

    Job told his wife to shut up in so many words when she told him to question God.

    Who are we as mere human beings to question why God allows babies to be born with defects, it is for a reason, maybe to bring the persons family to Christ.

    I will give you an example. There was this girl who had cancer, the mother and father were not religious at all, then the daughter got very ill with leukemia and was dying. The mother never went to church, God allowed this girl to bring her mother and father to church by her illness, yes the girl died and suffered TERRIBLY but on the bright side the parents became Christians, well the mother is more dedicated to her faith than the father.

    Sometimes God allows people to suffer to bring other people to Him

    Amen
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    lol, you didn't put quote marks around it Donovan.

    You know, the Book warns against judging others, lest you be judged.
    Think!!

    Be mindful of your own path, instead of casting stones of fear at others. Loving God out of fear is not love, it's coercion of the worst sort.

  • twilight2010

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    Sep 14, 2011 4:20 PM GMT
    meninlove said lol, you didn't put quote marks around it Donovan.

    You know, the Book warns against judging others, lest you be judged.
    Think!!

    Be mindful of your own path, instead of casting stones of fear at others. Loving God out of fear is not love, it's coercion of the worst sort.



    I judge no one, it is the Word that judges everyone. Anything i have written is quoted by scripture so anything I have said you will find in God's word, if you see I say i do not know why God does this and that but we are not to question Him.

    Watch the video and you will see exactly How GOD works by creating people with birth defects.

    I am judging no one. We must obey God. We must keep His laws. In Christ we are given the chance to live eternally without feeding on the word how do we get our Spiritual food.

    You asked the question why God allows birth defects the Holy Spirit has spoken through the man who has no legs or arms in that video you Dough have all the answers you need.

    I do not pronounce judgment on you or anyone. I merely provide the Word and you take it or leave it. You either accept the Word who is Jesus Christ Himself or you do not. The word is made flesh. We are commanded to eat His body and drink His blood, by feeding on the Word of God. We must eat it daily.

    God has His reasons for the things that happen but one thing you can be sure is this. God causes those birth defects, God brings the storms and God hits the countries with Tsunamis , Why? God is righteous and He has His reasons.

    The Word of God says it and that is How I believe it

  • nanidesukedo

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    Sep 14, 2011 4:24 PM GMT
    donovan1979 said
    meninlove said

    Donovan said, "I think I have a far more serious attitude defect."

    Oh, I quite agree.


    No Dough I quoted another Christian on the youtube post above. i put it there so you can watch it. God does allow Birth defects. Who are we to even dare ask the question WHY does God allow this?

    Job told his wife to shut up in so many words when she told him to question God.

    Who are we as mere human beings to question why God allows babies to be born with defects, it is for a reason, maybe to bring the persons family to Christ.

    I will give you an example. There was this girl who had cancer, the mother and father were not religious at all, then the daughter got very ill with leukemia and was dying. The mother never went to church, God allowed this girl to bring her mother and father to church by her illness, yes the girl died and suffered TERRIBLY but on the bright side the parents became Christians, well the mother is more dedicated to her faith than the father.

    Sometimes God allows people to suffer to bring other people to Him

    Amen


    you officially hit the Piece of Shit point in all of this. How dare you try to say that it was ok for a child to suffer terribly with a childhood illness because mommy and daddy became Christians? "God allows people to suffer to bring other people to him?" Seriously, dude...WTF is wrong with you? Have you ever suffered illness? As one of those children who was born with a severe birth defect, I am deeply offended. My parents were both very, very religious. One of them was Mormon, the other was Catholic. When I was born, I was born with a cardiac defect so rare that it is only seen about 2-5x a year in the United States. At the time I was born with it, it was universally fatal. Throughout this whole ordeal, my parents actually became distant from the church.

    For you to spout off trash about how the suffering of children with childhood illnesses and congenital defects is OK because it's God's way of bringing people to him...That's kinda like a therapist saying that "It's ok if I torture and kill your child. Without your child around and having been through that horrible experience, you'll need therapy for years, and that'll bring you to me. So it's all peachy-keen. Hell, it's for the better."

    I was joking before about you needing mental help...but, honestly..I think you'd benefit. I've lived all my life with the consequence of a congenital defect and, as a medical professional, I work everyday to minimize the suffering of others with defects and their families. You seriously need to think before you speak.
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    But you do indeed judge others, Donovan. Just look back at the horrible trail of fishing judgments out of the bible and aiming them at people that don't follow the path you do. You've made quite the history of yourself here on RJ.

    Do you see any men of other faiths on here quoting scriptures from their faith that damn others for not believing the way they do?

    *taps foot patiently*

  • twilight2010

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    Sep 14, 2011 4:34 PM GMT
    nanidesukedo said
    donovan1979 said
    meninlove said

    Donovan said, "I think I have a far more serious attitude defect."

    Oh, I quite agree.


    No Dough I quoted another Christian on the youtube post above. i put it there so you can watch it. God does allow Birth defects. Who are we to even dare ask the question WHY does God allow this?

    Job told his wife to shut up in so many words when she told him to question God.

    Who are we as mere human beings to question why God allows babies to be born with defects, it is for a reason, maybe to bring the persons family to Christ.

    I will give you an example. There was this girl who had cancer, the mother and father were not religious at all, then the daughter got very ill with leukemia and was dying. The mother never went to church, God allowed this girl to bring her mother and father to church by her illness, yes the girl died and suffered TERRIBLY but on the bright side the parents became Christians, well the mother is more dedicated to her faith than the father.

    Sometimes God allows people to suffer to bring other people to Him

    Amen


    you officially hit the Piece of Shit point in all of this. How dare you try to say that it was ok for a child to suffer terribly with a childhood illness because mommy and daddy became Christians? "God allows people to suffer to bring other people to him?" Seriously, dude...WTF is wrong with you? Have you ever suffered illness? As one of those children who was born with a severe birth defect, I am deeply offended. My parents were both very, very religious. One of them was Mormon, the other was Catholic. When I was born, I was born with a cardiac defect so rare that it is only seen about 2-5x a year in the United States. At the time I was born with it, it was universally fatal. Throughout this whole ordeal, my parents actually became distant from the church.

    For you to spout off trash about how the suffering of children with childhood illnesses and congenital defects is OK because it's God's way of bringing people to him...That's kinda like a therapist saying that "It's ok if I torture and kill your child. Without your child around and having been through that horrible experience, you'll need therapy for years, and that'll bring you to me. So it's all peachy-keen. Hell, it's for the better."

    I was joking before about you needing mental help...but, honestly..I think you'd benefit. I've lived all my life with the consequence of a congenital defect and, as a medical professional, I work everyday to minimize the suffering of others with defects and their families. You seriously need to think before you speak.


    That little girl who had leukemia i was talking about was my cousin, yes God used my cousin to bring into His loving hands her parents. Did you watch the video of the man with no legs and no arms? did you, Do you see exactly how God works.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl58qufXfYk&feature=player_embedded

    God's ways are not our ways and we cannot question Him. You are a creation of God and How God made you is not to be questioned. Who are we to tell the potter how to mold the clay? We have no right.

    God made you like He did for a reason, one day you will find out that reason. I cannot answer why i am not God.

    The Almighty loves you, listen here, Satan has to get permission from God to attack God's children this is clear from the scriptures in Job, Satan has limits which God will not let him cross. God loves you always, ok



  • twilight2010

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    Sep 14, 2011 4:43 PM GMT
    meninlove said But you do indeed judge others, Donovan. Just look back at the horrible trail of fishing judgments out of the bible and aiming them at people that don't follow the path you do. You've made quite the history of yourself here on RJ.

    Do you see any men of other faiths on here quoting scriptures from their faith that damn others for not believing the way they do?

    *taps foot patiently*



    Dough i do not judge anyone. I just told you. there are people on here who preach darwin. They hold so tight to Darwin and they mock the lord Jesus. Some comments on this site are outrageously insulting to Christ. I defend the faith of Christ by giving the people the Word from the Holy Bible. i never once say if you do not do this then God will do this. i say the Lord God Almighty says this and I post the scripture.

    For example a man here emailed me and said I said that it is not okay to eat pork. I did not so anything of a such. i told him I said that the Bible says it is not okay, when I say the Bible, That is God saying No. If the Bible is saying something it is not Dough or Donovan or any other human it is God Almighty speaking.

    God says those that eat the flesh of swine will be consumed. This is not me but God who says the following.

    "Those who consecrate and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following the one in the midst of those who eat the flesh of pigs and rats and other abominable things--they will meet their end together," declares the LORD.

    It is not Donovan who says but God the Almighty who says Do not do it and when God says Do not do it, We must obey, God will judge us all. If we have Christ we safe.

  • nanidesukedo

    Posts: 1036

    Sep 14, 2011 4:53 PM GMT
    Simple question, Donovan. If Congenital defects are signs of God's hand and God's work...should we be intervening? After all, to intervene would be intervening with his work...