Paleo meats? Is it just chicken breast or is any meet okay?

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 6:03 AM GMT
    So... For instance... If I was doing paleo... What meat is okay? I;ve heard only eat chicken breast and fish pretty much... Or lean beef... What is lean beef? Just like chops cooked on a grill to get rid of some fats... Or is it actually bought lean or something? Also are chicken wings, thighs okay? They wouldn't void paleo?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 6:32 AM GMT
    any meat.
    yes the thighs wings and legs would be okay.

    Not paleo but I know what it's about.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 2:02 PM GMT
    Any meat is okay as a protein source. Lean meats, those with less fat, are better since you're getting fat through other sources such as olive oil, nuts, avocado, etc. and you don't want to skew the balance of your intake too heavily towards fat. A lot of people do eat increased fat but that's after you've cleaned out your system and balanced your insulin levels.

    It sounds like you're just starting out eating paleo so don't worry about what kind of protein, just worry about cutting out glutin, added sugar, dairy and alcohol for a month or so.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 2:16 PM GMT
    â–²What he said.

    Though I much prefer fish protein (cold sea water fish like salmon and herring, cod, and sardines) - the western diet is deficient in Omega-3 fatty acids.

    But any meat protein is good. Arguably, beef has greater density of protein to its mass, followed by pork. But both tend to clog up the drain, if you get my meaning. Nothing that a daily dose of chard, spinach, or broccoli can't fix.

    Also ground psylium husks are a good colon-cleansing fibre source.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 2:22 PM GMT
    I just started paleo too this week. Problem is football started this week too so I can't cut out beer just yet.

    I did make an awesome stir fry tho with like 10 dif veggies, chicken and beef. Only used garlic, ginger, sesame oil, rice wine vinegar and a little soy sauce and honey for flavor. O yeah and a lot of chili and chili powder as u can see below.

    I think that's a nice paleo meal


    318525_747383630079_2810278_37589032_102
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 2:52 PM GMT
    wolverinecub86 saidI just started paleo too this week. Problem is football started this week too so I can't cut out beer just yet.

    I did make an awesome stir fry tho with like 10 dif veggies, chicken and beef. Only used garlic, ginger, sesame oil, rice wine vinegar and a little soy sauce and honey for flavor. O yeah and a lot of chili and chili powder as u can see below.

    I think that's a nice paleo meal


    318525_747383630079_2810278_37589032_102


    Doesn't that void paleo then lol? Haha. Iunno much on it at all though :S
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 2:57 PM GMT
    I think that does void your paleo diet. Isn't the point of paleo to eat how our ancestors did during the paleolithic era? It's a hunter-gatherer based diet- raw veggies, fruit, nuts. Fish for sure. As for the meats, well, many animlas we eat weren't domesticated yet. Go for bison if you want red meat. But then, if you want meat, it's only supposed to be cooked certain ways, right?

    I tried paleo once. Didn't last long. lol.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 3:08 PM GMT
    If you're doing low-carb paleo, you need to ditch all the lipophobic nonsense and eat a high-fat diet. Just make sure you maintain an overall caloric deficit so that you burn body fat. With low-carb, it's the combination of fat and protein that sates the appetite. Just as an example, on Sunday morning, I ate a ribeye steak with the couple tablespoons of virgin coconut oil that I'd cooked it in. I wasn't hungry until six hours later, and it was only the gentlest of hunger impulses.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 3:17 PM GMT
    @ kristoff

    How does that void paleo? The chili powder, soy sauce, honey and sesame oil are very very low amounts, just enough for flavor. Other than that its all veggies and meat.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 3:23 PM GMT
    wolverinecub86 said@ kristoff

    How does that void paleo? The chili powder, soy sauce, honey and sesame oil are very very low amounts, just enough for flavor. Other than that its all veggies and meat.


    Some people just assume that paleo is all about food reenactment. It's not. It's really about avoiding the "neolithic agents of disease":

    http://www.archevore.com/get-started/
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 3:35 PM GMT
    The other thing to keep in mind about meats is how the animal was raised, especially for beef and chicken. The idea of paleo is to avoid seed grains, especially from grasses like wheat, containing a number of irritants one of which is gluten. Eating grain-fed chicken or beef would therefore negate the desired effect of the diet, which is to avoid the harmful effects of grains, sugar etc. in the western diet.

    The ideal would therefore be to eat free-range chicken and grass-fed beef.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 3:36 PM GMT
    Really butter is better than oil on paleo? But I thought no dairy was a part of paleo. Also I heard certain oils r very healthy like virgin olive, sesame, walnut, ect.

    Now I still do a Greek yogurt before bed for the casein protein in it. So I'm not 200% paleo and refuse to cut out all dairy anyway.

    And I refuse to eat powders. I think its ridiculous when people advise this diet then say to use protein powders. I mean u think food reduced to powder form is even remotely real? Cmon lol.....
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 4:06 PM GMT
    It all depends on how strict you want to be. Yes, grass fed beef is better than grain fed but lean protein is way better than vienna sausages. People get all bent out of shape over it and I think that really gets in the way of the basic idea. If you think of eating paleo as a quality of food concept (i.e., eat whole, unprocessed foods as much as possible) you'll do pretty well. The rest is really in the margins. Many people add dairy back into their diets after getting their insulin levels rebalanced; however, olive oil is still a better source of fat for cooking. Will the diary "void" paleo? No, you're just eating less paleo than you could but you're still eating 10,000x better than the average American who pounds Big Macs. Can you get really strict and say Wolverine's sesame oil, soy sauce and rice wine vinegar are out? Sure, they're not paleo but in small amounts the effect is really minimal so if it makes a big difference in you enjoying your food, it's not a huge deal.

    At the end of the day, it seems that people who choose to eat as strict a paleo diet as they can are healthier, leaner, more energetic and fitter than those who choose to eat grains, glutin, added sugars, dairy and alcohol.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 4:52 PM GMT
    paradox saidIf you're doing low-carb paleo, you need to ditch all the lipophobic nonsense and eat a high-fat diet. Just make sure you maintain an overall caloric deficit so that you burn body fat. With low-carb, it's the combination of fat and protein that sates the appetite. Just as an example, on Sunday morning, I ate a ribeye steak with the couple tablespoons of virgin coconut oil that I'd cooked it in. I wasn't hungry until six hours later, and it was only the gentlest of hunger impulses.


    ^^ This. Nowadays, it's become the zeitgeist to demonize saturated animal fat. "Lean meats" rolls off the tongue so easily without a thought. Just make sure you have a good omega3 : omega6 ratio.

    As for the OP, don't forget about organ meats as well! Chicken livers and cow tongues!
  • neosyllogy

    Posts: 1714

    Sep 14, 2011 4:56 PM GMT
    You REALLY need to go to a paleo forum and do some research as you clearly have NO idea what you're about to do. Not being a jerk, it's just that if you don't know the answer to that really elementary question you must know zilch about a potentially rather extreme diet.
    You should not start an extreme diet without researching it enough to do it healthily.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 5:38 PM GMT
    Yikes I hope ur talking to the op and not me.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 14, 2011 5:53 PM GMT
    Kristoff saidSo... For instance... If I was doing paleo... What meat is okay? I;ve heard only eat chicken breast and fish pretty much... Or lean beef... What is lean beef? Just like chops cooked on a grill to get rid of some fats... Or is it actually bought lean or something? Also are chicken wings, thighs okay? They wouldn't void paleo?




    You are missing the point here. Paleo is eating primitive because your body evolved with primitive food and therefore needs primitive food to stay healthy.

    Nutrition info from the last 30 years is incorrect and has made American fat and sick especially "low fat " diets. Paleo is a full fat diet. It rather ironic that the more primitive food including fat you eat the faster you burn the "bad fat" .
  • neosyllogy

    Posts: 1714

    Sep 15, 2011 3:48 AM GMT
    wolverinecub86 saidYikes I hope ur talking to the op and not me.
    yes icon_smile.gif