President Obama Expands His Lead Over Perry & Romney

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    Sep 14, 2011 3:37 PM GMT
    Now that we're getting to know them better - the American people don't appear to be warming up to any of the Repubs running for the 2012 nomination.

    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-leads-perry-romney-poll-182608308.html
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    Sep 14, 2011 3:58 PM GMT
    As was said by a leading GOP pundit yesterday, "Poll numbers are very deceiving. Even though Obamas ratings are falling and people think he's not doing that great of job, the republican field isn't that striking and come election day its a choice with going with the known, or something they like less."
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    Sep 14, 2011 4:06 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidcome election day its a choice with going with the known, or something they like less."



    It's "the known" that may hurt Obama icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 14, 2011 4:11 PM GMT
    Thanks rickrick91 for the posting and link. Guys: It's still way too early to count the Democrats and Obama out. That's why there is a presidential campaign year. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. "It's going to be a bumpy night" said one Hollywood actress whose name escapes me...
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    Sep 14, 2011 4:12 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    TropicalMark saidcome election day its a choice with going with the known, or something they like less."



    It's "the known" that may hurt Obama


    Sure hope not. Too early to tell though.
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    Sep 14, 2011 4:14 PM GMT
    yankinbc saidThanks rickrick91 for the posting and link. Guys: It's still way too early to count the Democrats and Obama out. That's why there is a presidential campaign year. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. "It's going to be a bumpy night" said one Hollywood actress whose name escapes me...




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    Sep 14, 2011 4:22 PM GMT
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    yankinbc saidThanks rickrick91 for the posting and link. Guys: It's still way too early to count the Democrats and Obama out. That's why there is a presidential campaign year. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. "It's going to be a bumpy night" said one Hollywood actress whose name escapes me...




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    Sep 14, 2011 4:36 PM GMT
    PPP? are you serious?

    http://mediatrackers.org/2011/03/public-policy-poll-overrepresented-union-househoulds-in-poll/

    Seems you cherry picked. Imagine that!

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html
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    Sep 14, 2011 4:49 PM GMT
    Public Policy Poll Targets Union Househoulds in Poll

    Yesterday a poll was released by Democrat affiliated Public Policy Polling of Raleigh, North Carolina that claimed Governor Scott Walker would lose in a re-vote of last November’s election.

    Public Policy Polling was founded by, and still led by, Democratic pollster Dean Debnam, whose political contributions show a considerable Democratic bias. Public Policy Polling doesn’t even attempt to hide its Democrat cheerleading. In a Politico article depicting their war against Republican Senate candidate Richard Burr, Public Policy Polling Director Tom Jensen said “we’re absolutely rooting in the race. We don’t want Richard Burr to get reelected. We wanted Obama to win last fall.”

    Beyond the liberal bias of Public Policy Polling, this specific poll over represents union households. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, union membership in Wisconsin is approximately 355,000. With a workforce of around 2.5 million, union membership constitutes about 14.2% of the workforce. The poll that Public Policy Polling conducted shows that 32% of the households polled had a union member. This is a gross overrepresentation of union households.

    Given an overrepresentation of union households and a history of Public Policy Polling’s Democratic bias, this poll ought to be viewed with significant skepticism.

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    Sep 14, 2011 4:53 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidPublic Policy Poll Targets Union Househoulds in Poll

    Yesterday a poll was released by Democrat affiliated Public Policy Polling of Raleigh, North Carolina that claimed Governor Scott Walker would lose in a re-vote of last November’s election.

    Public Policy Polling was founded by, and still led by, Democratic pollster Dean Debnam, whose political contributions show a considerable Democratic bias. Public Policy Polling doesn’t even attempt to hide its Democrat cheerleading. In a Politico article depicting their war against Republican Senate candidate Richard Burr, Public Policy Polling Director Tom Jensen said “we’re absolutely rooting in the race. We don’t want Richard Burr to get reelected. We wanted Obama to win last fall.”

    Beyond the liberal bias of Public Policy Polling, this specific poll over represents union households. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, union membership in Wisconsin is approximately 355,000. With a workforce of around 2.5 million, union membership constitutes about 14.2% of the workforce. The poll that Public Policy Polling conducted shows that 32% of the households polled had a union member. This is a gross overrepresentation of union households.

    Given an overrepresentation of union households and a history of Public Policy Polling’s Democratic bias, this poll ought to be viewed with significant skepticism.

    Tsk tsk... biased polling! They should be ashamed!

    Oh shucky darn... like that doesnt happen in the other camp! LMAO
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    Sep 14, 2011 4:54 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    Given an overrepresentation of union households and a history of Public Policy Polling’s Democratic bias, this poll ought to be viewed with significant skepticism.




    Tell that to RickRick...He lives eats and breathes any poll that looks good for the Dems, while ignoring any and all others that tell a different story. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Bottomline: All polls are biased. They should ALL be looked at with much skepticism.
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    Sep 14, 2011 5:01 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    Given an overrepresentation of union households and a history of Public Policy Polling’s Democratic bias, this poll ought to be viewed with significant skepticism.




    Tell that to RickRick...He lives eats and breathes any poll that looks good for the Dems, while ignoring any and all others that tell a different story. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Bottomline: All polls are biased. They should ALL be looked at with much skepticism.
    Thank you.
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    Sep 14, 2011 5:10 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidPublic Policy Poll Targets Union Househoulds in Poll

    Yesterday a poll was released by Democrat affiliated Public Policy Polling of Raleigh, North Carolina that claimed Governor Scott Walker would lose in a re-vote of last November’s election.

    Public Policy Polling was founded by, and still led by, Democratic pollster Dean Debnam, whose political contributions show a considerable Democratic bias. Public Policy Polling doesn’t even attempt to hide its Democrat cheerleading. In a Politico article depicting their war against Republican Senate candidate Richard Burr, Public Policy Polling Director Tom Jensen said “we’re absolutely rooting in the race. We don’t want Richard Burr to get reelected. We wanted Obama to win last fall.”

    Beyond the liberal bias of Public Policy Polling, this specific poll over represents union households. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, union membership in Wisconsin is approximately 355,000. With a workforce of around 2.5 million, union membership constitutes about 14.2% of the workforce. The poll that Public Policy Polling conducted shows that 32% of the households polled had a union member. This is a gross overrepresentation of union households.

    Given an overrepresentation of union households and a history of Public Policy Polling’s Democratic bias, this poll ought to be viewed with significant skepticism.

    Tsk tsk... biased polling! They should be ashamed!

    Oh shucky darn... like that doesnt happen in the other camp! LMAO


    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/?state=nwa

    For a composite of all the known polls.
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    Sep 14, 2011 5:25 PM GMT
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    TropicalMark said
    freedomisntfree saidPublic Policy Poll Targets Union Househoulds in Poll

    Yesterday a poll was released by Democrat affiliated Public Policy Polling of Raleigh, North Carolina that claimed Governor Scott Walker would lose in a re-vote of last November’s election.

    Public Policy Polling was founded by, and still led by, Democratic pollster Dean Debnam, whose political contributions show a considerable Democratic bias. Public Policy Polling doesn’t even attempt to hide its Democrat cheerleading. In a Politico article depicting their war against Republican Senate candidate Richard Burr, Public Policy Polling Director Tom Jensen said “we’re absolutely rooting in the race. We don’t want Richard Burr to get reelected. We wanted Obama to win last fall.”

    Beyond the liberal bias of Public Policy Polling, this specific poll over represents union households. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, union membership in Wisconsin is approximately 355,000. With a workforce of around 2.5 million, union membership constitutes about 14.2% of the workforce. The poll that Public Policy Polling conducted shows that 32% of the households polled had a union member. This is a gross overrepresentation of union households.

    Given an overrepresentation of union households and a history of Public Policy Polling’s Democratic bias, this poll ought to be viewed with significant skepticism.

    Tsk tsk... biased polling! They should be ashamed!

    Oh shucky darn... like that doesnt happen in the other camp! LMAO


    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/?state=nwa

    For a composite of all the known polls.





    A composite that includes the Rasmussen polls which have been proven to be biased with a pro-right-wing tilt.
    The inclusion of the Rasmussen polls in the RCP average throws the RCP average off in favor of the Repub side - so RCP averages are not reliable or trustworthy.

    I posted the PPP poll in the link because it's a brand new poll.

    If you don't care for the PPP poll - Gallup also has President Obama leading the Repub field by 6 points.

    So, now you're going to say that Gallup is biased to the left too, right?
    LOL!
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    Sep 14, 2011 5:36 PM GMT
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    A composite that includes the Rasmussen polls which have been proven to be biased with a pro-right-wing tilt.
    The inclusion of the Rasmussen polls in the RCP average throws the RCP average off in favor of the Repub side - so RCP averages are not reliable or trustworthy.

    I posted the PPP poll in the link because it's a brand new poll.

    If you don't care for the PPP poll - Gallup also has President Obama leading the Repub field by 6 points.

    So, now you're going to say that Gallup is biased to the left too, right?
    LOL!



    No, ALL polls are biased, regardless of the alleged result they are peddling. Hey, if you want to take them as fact, knock yourself out, but don't come crying to us should a Republican move into The White House in January 2012 with your whining "But, but, but....the poll said Obama was gonna win" -- whaaaaaaa!!!

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    Sep 14, 2011 5:43 PM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ saidNo, ALL polls are biased, regardless of the alleged result they are peddling. Hey, if you want to take them as fact, knock yourself out, but don't come crying to us should a Republican move into The White House in January 2012 with your whining "But, but, but....the poll said Obama was gonna win" -- whaaaaaaa!!!

    Yes, we remember your absolute certainty in October of 2008 that McCain had some sort of "October surprise" up his sleeve and the polls that put Obama ahead by 7 points were "biased".

    I believe you said "If you want to believe them, knock yourself out, but when McCain moves into the White House in January of 2009, don't come crying to us with your whining,"

    It's so useful having such a good memory.
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    Sep 14, 2011 5:44 PM GMT
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    CuriousJockAZ saidNo, ALL polls are biased, regardless of the alleged result they are peddling. Hey, if you want to take them as fact, knock yourself out, but don't come crying to us should a Republican move into The White House in January 2012 with your whining "But, but, but....the poll said Obama was gonna win" -- whaaaaaaa!!!

    Yes, we remember your absolute certainty in October of 2008 that McCain had some sort of "October surprise" up his sleeve and the polls that put Obama ahead by 7 points were "biased".

    I believe you said "If you want to believe them, knock yourself out, but when McCain moves into the White House in January of 2009, don't come crying to us with your whining,"

    It's so useful having such a good memory.




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    jprichva said
    CuriousJockAZ saidNo, ALL polls are biased, regardless of the alleged result they are peddling. Hey, if you want to take them as fact, knock yourself out, but don't come crying to us should a Republican move into The White House in January 2012 with your whining "But, but, but....the poll said Obama was gonna win" -- whaaaaaaa!!!

    Yes, we remember your absolute certainty in October of 2008 that McCain had some sort of "October surprise" up his sleeve and the polls that put Obama ahead by 7 points were "biased".

    I believe you said "If you want to believe them, knock yourself out, but when McCain moves into the White House in January of 2009, don't come crying to us with your whining,"

    It's so useful having such a good memory.
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    LOL!
    As if we didn't already know how repititive Curiousjock is with his endless kneejerk defense of the Repubs.
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    Sep 14, 2011 6:09 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    TropicalMark said
    freedomisntfree saidPublic Policy Poll Targets Union Househoulds in Poll

    Yesterday a poll was released by Democrat affiliated Public Policy Polling of Raleigh, North Carolina that claimed Governor Scott Walker would lose in a re-vote of last November’s election.

    Public Policy Polling was founded by, and still led by, Democratic pollster Dean Debnam, whose political contributions show a considerable Democratic bias. Public Policy Polling doesn’t even attempt to hide its Democrat cheerleading. In a Politico article depicting their war against Republican Senate candidate Richard Burr, Public Policy Polling Director Tom Jensen said “we’re absolutely rooting in the race. We don’t want Richard Burr to get reelected. We wanted Obama to win last fall.”

    Beyond the liberal bias of Public Policy Polling, this specific poll over represents union households. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, union membership in Wisconsin is approximately 355,000. With a workforce of around 2.5 million, union membership constitutes about 14.2% of the workforce. The poll that Public Policy Polling conducted shows that 32% of the households polled had a union member. This is a gross overrepresentation of union households.

    Given an overrepresentation of union households and a history of Public Policy Polling’s Democratic bias, this poll ought to be viewed with significant skepticism.

    Tsk tsk... biased polling! They should be ashamed!

    Oh shucky darn... like that doesnt happen in the other camp! LMAO


    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/?state=nwa

    For a composite of all the known polls.





    A composite that includes the Rasmussen polls which have been proven to be biased with a pro-right-wing tilt.
    The inclusion of the Rasmussen polls in the RCP average throws the RCP average off in favor of the Repub side - so RCP averages are not reliable or trustworthy.

    I posted the PPP poll in the link because it's a brand new poll.

    If you don't care for the PPP poll - Gallup also has President Obama leading the Repub field by 6 points.

    So, now you're going to say that Gallup is biased to the left too, right?
    LOL!


    I didn't make any comment regarding PPP other than to post the text of the article. Now that you bring it up, I think gallup has some left wing bias as does Rasmussen have a right wing bias. This is why I think the RCP composite is the best average that I know of. In any event, I'm not paying attention to this all that much yet other than my fav candidate is dead last - I do know that.
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    Sep 14, 2011 6:14 PM GMT
    RickRick91 said
    As if we didn't already know how repititive Curiousjock is with his endless kneejerk defense of the Repubs.



    YOU calling ANYONE "repetitive"? HA! Pot meet Kettle!!! icon_lol.gif

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    Sep 14, 2011 6:28 PM GMT
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    RickRick91 said
    As if we didn't already know how repititive Curiousjock is with his endless kneejerk defense of the Repubs.



    YOU calling ANYONE "repetitive"? HA! Pot meet Kettle!!! icon_lol.gif





    Your endlessly repititive use of silly emoticons is a bore too.
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    Sep 14, 2011 6:37 PM GMT
    RickRick91 said


    Your endlessly repititive use of silly emoticons is a bore too.



    Huh? Whatever do you mean?


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