Dick and Lynne Cheney Voice Support for Marriage Equality on 'The View'

  • metta

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    Sep 14, 2011 5:52 PM GMT
    Dick Cheney, former vice president, on gay marriage on 'The View': I don't have a problem with it

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    Dick and Lynne Cheney Voice Support for Marriage Equality on 'The View'

    http://www.towleroad.com/2011/09/cheneys.html


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    Sep 14, 2011 9:30 PM GMT
    I love dick! Dick is awesome!
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    Sep 14, 2011 9:44 PM GMT
    I am guessing he was drugged and didn't understand the question.


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    Sep 14, 2011 9:48 PM GMT
    Mepark saidI love dick! Dick is awesome!


    I love Dick even more than you love Dick.
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    Sep 14, 2011 9:53 PM GMT
    Where the goddamned hell was he when he was vice president of the US. Why didn't he man up and take a pro gay marriage equality stand back than and tell all the fundamentalist lunatics to go fuck themselves. Whats next, former US President George W. Bush becomes a strong proponant for gay maritial equality, that'll be the day.
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    Sep 14, 2011 11:35 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWhere the goddamned hell was he when he was vice president of the US. Why didn't he man up and take a pro gay marriage equality stand back than and tell all the fundamentalist lunatics to go fuck themselves.
    The answer:

    Miller referred to comments made by Rep. Mark Hilton, R-Catawba, earlier this year during a closed-door GOP caucus meeting in which the microphones were left on and the sound was accidentally piped into the Legislative Building pressroom. During the caucus, Hilton said that the proposed same-sex marriage ban was needed to help conservative groups “get their ground game working.

    http://www.newbernsj.com/news/republicans-100091-constitutional-sex.html
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    Sep 15, 2011 5:30 AM GMT
    This isn't really anything new. Cheney voiced support for gay marriage years ago, when he was still in office, I think. Here is an article dating all the way back to 2004:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29862-2004Aug24.html
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    Sep 15, 2011 5:33 AM GMT
    Well, my previous post didn't show up for some reason. Maybe it didn't like the link.

    Anyway, I just said that this isn't anything new. Cheney has supported gay marriage for many years. I tried to link to a Washington Post article from 2004.

    EDIT: Never mind. Now my post is showing up. Strange. I guess I broke RJ. Shame on me. icon_sad.gif
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    Sep 15, 2011 5:40 AM GMT
    Discussed in great depth on http://www.fark.com/comments/6559197/ FARK
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    Sep 15, 2011 5:49 AM GMT
    TropicalMark saidThe answer:


    Party First
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    Sep 15, 2011 5:53 AM GMT
    I didn't say I agreed with Cheney. The "states rights" argument, as it applies to gay marriage, has always seemed like a co-op, for both Reps and Dems. Still, I'll give credit where it's due. He came out in support of gay marriage when the constitutional amendment to ban it was swirling around. He made his comments in direct opposition to his boss. He was a least brave enough to do that. (Though, for the record, I don't think he'd support it at all if his own daughter wasn't gay.)
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    Sep 15, 2011 5:53 AM GMT
    They're also monsters and war profiteers... so... why should anyone even want their endorsement?

    Personally, I would sleep much better with them declaring I will spend eternity in the hell-fires of damnation.

    How often do you see vegetarians trying to promote their views by saying, "Hey, Hitler was a vegetarian."
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    Sep 15, 2011 5:58 AM GMT
    Cool talk. Now when was the walk when you could have lead? icon_rolleyes.gif Next!
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    Sep 15, 2011 8:29 AM GMT
    Too little, too late. Even when he has a lesbian daughter, for chris sake! Reminds me of President Reagan mentioning the AIDS crisis publicly into his second term (1985-1989) when the disease was made public in 1981. Again, too little, too late...
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    Sep 17, 2011 7:28 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWhere the goddamned hell was he when he was vice president of the US. Why didn't he man up and take a pro gay marriage equality stand back than and tell all the fundamentalist lunatics to go fuck themselves. Whats next, former US President George W. Bush becomes a strong proponant for gay maritial equality, that'll be the day.


    "Why didn't he man up and take a pro gay marriage equality stand back "

    He did and has many times over the years. Re listen to the Cheney v Lieberman in 2000 and Cheney v Edwards debates in 2004. However he was the VP not the president.

    That was a pretty direct answer at 2:01.
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    Sep 17, 2011 7:58 AM GMT
    If I remember correctly, Cheney said that he didn't support gay marriage during one of the vice presidential debates and Edwards pointed out that Cheney's daughter is gay after Cheney made those comments. Politicians just say things when it's convenient for them. Very few have the balls to say what they actually feel because their number 1 priority is to get elected.
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    Sep 17, 2011 8:01 AM GMT
    joe122 saidIf I remember correctly, Chaney said that he didn't support gay marriage during one of the vice presidential debates and Edwards pointed out that Cheney's daughter is gay after Cheney made those comments. Politicians just say things when it's convenient for them. Very few have the balls to say what they actually feel because their number 1 priority is to get elected.


    you remember incorrectly.
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    Sep 17, 2011 8:15 AM GMT
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    joe122 saidIf I remember correctly, Chaney said that he didn't support gay marriage during one of the vice presidential debates and Edwards pointed out that Cheney's daughter is gay after Cheney made those comments. Politicians just say things when it's convenient for them. Very few have the balls to say what they actually feel because their number 1 priority is to get elected.


    you remember incorrectly.

    This is what I was talking about. I got it from wikipedia:

    During the Cheney-Edwards Vice-Presidential Debate, moderator Gwen Ifill asked a question to the Vice President in which his daughter was indirectly mentioned:
    “ I want to read something you said four years ago at this very setting: 'Freedom means freedom for everybody.' You said it again recently when you were asked about legalizing same-sex unions. And you used your family's experience as a context for your remarks. Can you describe then your administration's support for a constitutional ban on same-sex unions?[15] ”
    Dick Cheney reiterated his position of four years prior, stating the issue should be left to the states but that he supports the Bush administration. He did not mention his family nor his daughter in his immediate response to the question. In response, Edwards said:
    “ I think the vice president and his wife love their daughter. I think they love her very much. And you can't have anything but respect for the fact that they're willing to talk about the fact that they have a gay daughter, the fact that they embrace her. It's a wonderful thing. And there are millions of parents like that who love their children, who want their children to be happy. ”
    Although he was given 90 seconds to respond to Edwards' comments, Dick Cheney responded succinctly, "Well, Gwen, let me simply thank the senator for the kind words he said about my family and our daughter. I appreciate that very much." Ms. Ifill followed up: "That's it?" The vice president replied, "That's it," effectively ending the discussion of his daughter's sexual orientation.[15] At the end of the debate, Mary Cheney appeared on the podium with her partner and the rest of the family.

    He didn't actually come out and say "I'm for gay marriage" even though he really was. He didn't say he was against it either though so I guess I did remember incorrectly.
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    Sep 17, 2011 8:28 AM GMT
    That is close to what I remember. However, he’s not the boss. Bush was and one of Cheney’s jobs was to support the administration policies.

    C Span has their complete archives online now. That debate in its entirety is available on you tube in something 10 or 11 parts.

    I was thinking that it was Edwards who was baiting Cheney about this issue, but now that I think about it, it was Kerry who was baiting Bush about Mary Cheney, which royally pissed off both Dick and Lynn.

    "At the end of the debate, Mary Cheney appeared on the podium with her partner and the rest of the family."

    The above speaks strongly regarding how he really thought about the issue.