Remake Vs Original

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    Sep 14, 2011 10:58 PM GMT
    This is just my personal opinion on the debate that is remakes of original films in general, I feel that remakes are only made to make money off of something that does not to be re-told to a more modern audience and the producers and directors do it in the most shameless ways. For example, Rob Zombie's Halloween I and II are the absolute worst horror film remakes to this day with the shitty plot, weak dialogue, bad acting, and language. Do you feel that remakes are actually better than the original or prefer the originals like myself? icon_neutral.gif
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    Sep 14, 2011 11:01 PM GMT
    I thought Rob Zombie's Halloween I was incredible. The original was fantastic, but this remake dove more in depth into the development of a murdering sociopath better than the first one too. It was like watching Halloween with a "Hannibal" twist.

    I didn't see Rob Zombie's Halloween II though because I heard it sucked though.
  • Lincsbear

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    Sep 14, 2011 11:02 PM GMT
    It`s all about making money off a proven money maker.Hollywood`s a business,not artistry.
    I prefer directors to make original films.I can` t think of a remake that was superior(or even the equal) of the original.
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    Sep 14, 2011 11:05 PM GMT
    JakeBenson saidI thought Rob Zombie's Halloween I was incredible. The original was fantastic, but this remake dove more in depth into the development of a murdering sociopath better than the first one too. It was like watching Halloween with a "Hannibal" twist.

    I didn't see Rob Zombie's Halloween II though because I heard it sucked though.
    I know that he was trying to make the film into his own but i feel that the language in that film was uncalled for but to each his own
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    Sep 14, 2011 11:06 PM GMT
    Lincsbear saidIt`s all about making money off a proven money maker.Hollywood`s a business,not artistry.
    I prefer directors to make original films.I can` t think of a remake that was superior(or even the equal) of the original.
    +1 I agree i feel that they should make more original films besides making something that has already been seen before.
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    Sep 14, 2011 11:12 PM GMT
    the hills have eyes remake was better than the original
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    Sep 14, 2011 11:41 PM GMT
    In general I do believe that remakes suck balls compared to originals but sometimes it's hard to compare them at all. For example I <3 Rob Zombie's Halloween I & II so much but I also feel that the movies are totally different from the originals which were scary as hell and more gritty. Same thing with Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
    However, someone should tell Hollywood that no matter how many times they remake a Hulk movie, it will suck.
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    Sep 14, 2011 11:48 PM GMT
    wpbnole saidIn general I do believe that remakes suck balls compared to originals but sometimes it's hard to compare them at all. For example I <3 Rob Zombie's Halloween I & II so much but I also feel that the movies are totally different from the originals which were scary as hell and more gritty. Same thing with Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
    However, someone should tell Hollywood that no matter how many times they remake a Hulk movie, it will suck.
    Hollywood doesn't believe in being creative anymore i think
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    Sep 15, 2011 2:22 AM GMT
    Hollywood is just out of ideas.Everything has been done. Almost all remakes are worse than the original, IMNSHO. There are a few rare exceptions. I loved the new Star Trek movie, although that was more of a reboot than a remake.
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    Sep 15, 2011 2:25 AM GMT
    DudeInNOVA saidHollywood is just out of ideas.Everything has been done. Almost all remakes are worse than the original, IMNSHO. There are a few rare exceptions. I loved the new Star Trek movie, although that was more of a reboot than a remake.


    True that! As a Trekkie fan, I was delightfully surprised by the new movie even though it's something different from the original Star Trek series. I love all the old ones as they are, but the new one exceeded my expectations.
  • HorrorHound

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    Sep 15, 2011 2:39 AM GMT
    Worst remakes:

    The Fog
    PRom Night
    Pulse
    Black Christmas
  • HorrorHound

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    Sep 15, 2011 2:44 AM GMT
    OH && let's add on A Nightmare on Elm Street & Friday the 13th! Michael Bays production remakes have been WEAK & wasted efforts!
  • aiko14

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    Sep 15, 2011 2:46 AM GMT
    i thought the hollywood remake of The Ring is better than the original jap...
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    Sep 15, 2011 2:48 AM GMT
    AKA_B1GK saidWorst remakes:

    The Fog
    PRom Night
    Pulse
    Black Christmas


    OMG I still want to murder whoever thought the PULSE remake was a good idea. Probably one of the worst movies I've ever seen in this and any of my previous lives.icon_evil.gif
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    Sep 15, 2011 3:01 AM GMT
    Trollileo said
    AKA_B1GK saidOH && let's add on A Nightmare on Elm Street & Friday the 13th! Michael Bays production remakes have been WEAK & wasted efforts!
    Agreed. Those were disgusting.


    Heck yeah man! Weren't those "wasted opportunities"?! Haha
  • spankydrunk

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    Sep 15, 2011 3:27 AM GMT
    I prefered the Rob Zombie Halloween Remake. It was a good retelling of the original but with more of the killer and less of the stupid teenagers. The Friday the 13th remake was good for a different reason. The new Jason was actually good enough to be a completely different character. On the otherhand, Nightmare on Elm Street was horrible. They could have focused on Freddy's POV like Halloween did; or they could have gone a different direction like Friday the 13TH. I would have like to see the new Freddy be an innocent victem unjustly lynched by a media crazed mob. Instead that subplot was mentioned and then immediately dropped.
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    Sep 15, 2011 4:08 AM GMT
    The original Halloween series was by far my favorite series in the horror industry. No way the remake came even close to the original. The original was all about the fear factor and how this type of terror is a real life possibility. The remakes weren't scary at all.

    Now, a lot of remakes have been shitty. Take a look at Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I'm sorry, but you can't mess with a classic.

    But there are some movies that need to be remade for the progression of technology and ways that they can be portrayed on the big screen. Movies that were made back in the day that didn't have the resources we have today (technologically) that bring the story to it's full potential. This isn't exactly a remake, but The Dark Knight is a movie that redefines the era of the batman series... and it's probably the best film (cinematically) that Hollywood has seen.

    There's a time and a place for a remake. Halloween has not and will not ever fall under the list of viable movies to be remade.
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    Sep 15, 2011 4:10 AM GMT
    Allathlete saidThe original Halloween series was by far my favorite series in the horror industry. No way the remake came even close to the original. The original was all about the fear factor and how this type of terror is a real life possibility. The remakes weren't scary at all.

    Now, a lot of remakes have been shitty. Take a look at Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I'm sorry, but you can't mess with a classic.

    But there are some movies that need to be remade for the progression of technology and ways that they can be portrayed on the big screen. Movies that were made back in the day that didn't have the resources we have today (technologically) that bring the story to it's full potential. This isn't exactly a remake, but The Dark Knight is a movie that redefines the era of the batman series... and it's probably the best film (cinematically) that Hollywood has seen.

    There's a time and a place for a remake. Halloween has not and will not ever fall under the list of viable movies to be remade.
    I agree
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    Sep 15, 2011 4:14 AM GMT
    Allathlete saidThe original Halloween series was by far my favorite series in the horror industry. No way the remake came even close to the original. The original was all about the fear factor and how this type of terror is a real life possibility. The remakes weren't scary at all.

    Now, a lot of remakes have been shitty. Take a look at Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I'm sorry, but you can't mess with a classic.

    But there are some movies that need to be remade for the progression of technology and ways that they can be portrayed on the big screen. Movies that were made back in the day that didn't have the resources we have today (technologically) that bring the story to it's full potential. This isn't exactly a remake, but The Dark Knight is a movie that redefines the era of the batman series... and it's probably the best film (cinematically) that Hollywood has seen.

    There's a time and a place for a remake. Halloween has not and will not ever fall under the list of viable movies to be remade.


    I agree with The Dark Knight being one of the best remakes (technically a reboot with Batman Begins) ever, if not the best.
  • HorrorHound

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    Sep 15, 2011 4:15 AM GMT
    though - YES I enjoyed Rob Zombie's "vision" of his HALLOWEEN remake. Though I'm very opinionated of it too. Such as - the two halves of film didn't connect well. What began his gritty version of a rising serial killer in a child, then turned into a breakneck fast pace remake of John Carpenter's original HALLOWEEN. However - I still dug it. Though - I LOVED LOVED LOVED his sequel to his remake HALLOWEEN II alot! It was something "different" - alot of symbolism (the white horse) & I loved seeing Laurie Strodes mental breakdown due to her suffering from the Halloween of two years before. Though, RZ's "directors cut" on dvd was a far better film than what showed up in theaters!
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    Sep 15, 2011 4:18 AM GMT
    AKA_B1GK saidthough - YES I enjoyed Rob Zombie's "vision" of his HALLOWEEN remake. Though I'm very opinionated of it too. Such as - the two halves of film didn't connect well. What began his gritty version of a rising serial killer in a child, then turned into a breakneck fast pace remake of John Carpenter's original HALLOWEEN. However - I still dug it. Though - I LOVED LOVED LOVED his sequel to his remake HALLOWEEN II alot! It was something "different" - alot of symbolism (the white horse) & I loved seeing Laurie Strodes mental breakdown due to her suffering from the Halloween of two years before. Though, RZ's "directors cut" on dvd was a far better film than what showed up in theaters!


    The last 10 minutes of the sequel definitely left me with a WTF-face (:shockicon_smile.gif. Not confusion, just shock, I guess
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    Sep 15, 2011 4:23 AM GMT
    wpbnole said
    AKA_B1GK saidthough - YES I enjoyed Rob Zombie's "vision" of his HALLOWEEN remake. Though I'm very opinionated of it too. Such as - the two halves of film didn't connect well. What began his gritty version of a rising serial killer in a child, then turned into a breakneck fast pace remake of John Carpenter's original HALLOWEEN. However - I still dug it. Though - I LOVED LOVED LOVED his sequel to his remake HALLOWEEN II alot! It was something "different" - alot of symbolism (the white horse) & I loved seeing Laurie Strodes mental breakdown due to her suffering from the Halloween of two years before. Though, RZ's "directors cut" on dvd was a far better film than what showed up in theaters!


    The last 10 minutes of the sequel definitely left me with a WTF-face (:shockicon_smile.gif. Not confusion, just shock, I guess


    I absolutely LOVED LOVED the Last 15 secs of her blowing his brains out & then her screaming mercilessly splattered all over in blood. Was a very memorable image that burned into my mind. GO LAURIE!
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    Sep 15, 2011 4:33 AM GMT
    Hmmm, for some reason it seems the only remakes anyone can remember are lame horror movies. There have been others...

    I thought the recent Coen Brothers' True Grit was far superior to the original. The amazing thing is that it's essentially the exact same movie - with mostly the same scenes, filmed in some of the same locations, and even using much of the same dialogue. The difference is that they used much better actors.

    So, instead of John Wayne, who I like in some roles but was really out of his league trying to deliver that idiosyncratic dialogue, we got Jeff Bridges, who managed it just fine. Instead of Glen Campbell, who couldn't act his way out of a paper sack, we got Matt Damon, who not only can act but is genuinely hot. And instead of annoying Kim Darby, we got that 14-year-old whose name I forget but who absolutely made the movie great.

    Worst remakes?

    The Longest Yard - The original was essentially a sreious movie with comic moments. The remake was essentially Waterboy II. Adam Sandler really needs to go away now.

    King Kong - So, when you're confronted with a 25-foot-tall, sexually aroused gorilla, the thing to do is... tap dance?

    Planet of the Apes - I mean the one Tim Burton and Marky Mark made a few years ago, not this summer's James Franco flick. Excruciatingly pointless, and just plain stupid.

    Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - Another movie Tim Burton remade in his own inimitable icky style, apparently for his own enjoyment. The original (Wille Wonka) was a children's classic. The remake left audiences of all ages feeling like they needed a shower.

    By the way, Hollywood hasn't "run out of ideas". There are a million great ideas for movies out there that never get made. Hollywood siimply realizes that using an already recognizable title assures a certain amount of revenue, because people are more likely to see a movie if they already know the title. That's why virtually every movie that's made these days is either a remake, or an adaptation of an already wildly popular comic book, young adult novel series, etc. They didn't run out of ideas; they're just going after the easy money.
  • Musicman91

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    Sep 15, 2011 4:33 AM GMT
    I hate the Rob Zombie Halloween personally. I don't mind the first half I found some of it interesting but the second half sucks. The actress they picked for Laurie was horrible and annoying and I was totally rooting for Michael to get her lol.
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    Sep 15, 2011 4:38 AM GMT
    MusicMan91 saidI hate the Rob Zombie Halloween personally. I don't mind the first half I found some of it interesting but the second half sucks. The actress they picked for Laurie was horrible and annoying and I was totally rooting for Michael to get her lol.


    I do agree w/ this MusicMan91! I had my probs w/ Scout Taylor-Compton playing Lauries role. However, I thought her character arc was GREAT in RZ's HALLOWEEN II. very very Dark stuff indeed!