Election day in Denmark, looks like we'll get a new government tomorrow, and the first female prime minister..

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    Sep 15, 2011 10:56 AM GMT
    After 10 years of anti-social right wing government rule, it looks like the danes are finally fed up with it. Although not in government, the Danish Peoples Party (nationalists) have had too much influence on government policies this decade, and given us a reputation as a natioanalistic exclusive society.

    Today it looks like they'll finally lose al that influence.
    I'm so excited and optimistic that Denmark will get back on track as a social responsible, inclusive country, and once again be known as a country that stands for equality.... and now I'll go and cast my vote and tonight follow the battle on tv icon_biggrin.gif

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    Sep 15, 2011 11:51 AM GMT


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    Sep 15, 2011 1:18 PM GMT
    What do you mean by "inclusive"? Wasn't Denmark the first country in the world to recognize same-sex unions?

    Their right-wing party seems virtually identical to the left on most economic matters, the only difference is that the former isn't interested in letting in significant amounts of third world immigrants which would likely just make Denmark closer to Sweden and other countries now experiencing a severe backlash from it.
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    Sep 15, 2011 2:05 PM GMT
    Sounds like you want the government we ditched after 13 years. We'll send them over - best of luck with the dumbing down of any nationalism and social engineering to follow.
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    Sep 15, 2011 8:12 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWhat do you mean by "inclusive"? Wasn't Denmark the first country in the world to recognize same-sex unions?

    Their right-wing party seems virtually identical to the left on most economic matters, the only difference is that the former isn't interested in letting in significant amounts of third world immigrants which would likely just make Denmark closer to Sweden and other countries now experiencing a severe backlash from it.


    I'm not just speaking from a "gay" perspective. for the last 10 years, our immigration policies have been so tough and exclusive that it was an embarrassment. Danish people who marry a foreigner can't even be sure that their spouse is allowed to live here.
    Also, those who had plenty got more, and those who had less got poor. A minister in the government even said that inequality was a good thing, as it created a dynamic society.
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    Sep 15, 2011 8:32 PM GMT
    it's really tight at the moment, it could go both ways and it may be depending on which way the 4 north atlantic seats from Greenland and the Faroe Islands goes.
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    Sep 15, 2011 8:44 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidWhat do you mean by "inclusive"? Wasn't Denmark the first country in the world to recognize same-sex unions?

    Their right-wing party seems virtually identical to the left on most economic matters, the only difference is that the former isn't interested in letting in significant amounts of third world immigrants which would likely just make Denmark closer to Sweden and other countries now experiencing a severe backlash from it.


    I'm not just speaking from a "gay" perspective. for the last 10 years, our immigration policies have been so tough and exclusive that it was an embarrassment. Danish people who marry a foreigner can't even be sure that their spouse is allowed to live here.
    Also, those who had plenty got more, and those who had less got poor. A minister in the government even said that inequality was a good thing, as it created a dynamic society.


    Virtually no European country has "tough" and "exclusive" immigration policies comparative to many other non-western countries like Japan for instance. I've actually watched all sorts of Danish political debates and I see different ethnicities and Muslims participating -- so hardly an "exclusive" society that you are describing. I'm obviously not suggesting that Denmark shouldn't have an interest in other cultures and foods and people in an accepting way like many other countries do, but at the end of the day there is nothing "wrong" with Danish people believing that Denmark is for Danish, just like Japanese people feel that Japan is for Japanese. What exactly makes you think that Denmark, like any other European country, is supposed to be a country of immigration or a country of multiple different groups? Where did this idea enter into the minds of people? Is it something that was taught in school? The idea of progressively bringing in waves of third world immigrants will only tend to create anarchy and civil war in the long-run over national identity issues because of the long histories of nations like Denmark. It's an inevitability. Denmark is not the USA which was built on massive amounts of immigration and people all looking to form a history together from different backgrounds.

    The rest of Europe is about to enter into total chaotic upheaval over this issue and you want Denmark to follow suit? It's not quite making sense to me.

    Always ask yourself, would the vikings approve? lol jt.

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    Sep 15, 2011 8:57 PM GMT
    a decision yet thor?
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    Sep 15, 2011 9:25 PM GMT
    cfgrunt saida decision yet thor?


    97 percent of the votes in and it looks like we'll get a new government icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 15, 2011 10:04 PM GMT
    our new Prime Minister

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    Sep 15, 2011 10:23 PM GMT
    judoguy saidour new Prime Minister

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    She's nice looking.
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    Sep 15, 2011 10:45 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    judoguy saidour new Prime Minister

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    She's nice looking.


    There were better pictures of her before but they butched her up a bit because she got the nickname Gucci-Helle when she first became the leader of the Social Democrats. Her bag is a Mulberry now though.

    One of the biggest problems with the current immigration laws as Judo mentioned is that if I went outside of the EU, say to do a post doc for three years, and met and married someone, then that someone would have to independently apply for a green card if we wanted to live in Denmark together. Or we would have to move to a different EU country, my partner would have to achieve citizenship there and then we could move to Denmark. And the administration of the laws regarding green cards, automatic citizenship to stateless children, etc were broken several times by the now leaving administration.

    And while same sex unions were recognized in 1989 not much happened since then. It is mostly a problem for religious people that they can be blessed by not married in their church and then to do with children. One example: if a lesbian couple is having a child together the co-mother isn't allowed to adopt the baby until after birth but a man is allowed to adopt a child any time before birth (not the biological dad of course - other guys). There was some other stuff too.
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    Sep 18, 2011 5:04 PM GMT
    congrats to Denmark. we had a one page story on the newly elected peoples victory. jatte snell.
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    Sep 18, 2011 8:12 PM GMT
    icon_biggrin.gif This Canadian Social Democrat's swell with unreserved happiness for the choice the people of Denmark have made, as my brother married a Danish girl, and my niece lives in Denmark !