Opinions on Gay-Sensitive HIV/AIDS Education in Schools.

  • DaToNY22

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    May 14, 2008 4:28 AM GMT
    Alright men. I would love to know people's opinion on gay-sensitive HIV/AIDS instuctions in schools. I just finished an intense thesis on this subject focusing more on the impact of HIV/AIDS on the development of gay male youth but I would love to hear a broader commentary on the subject.

    Also, how would you go about educating students on this subject? It has been difficult for states to develop a script for HIV/AIDS education. For example, Arizona has the following law on homosexuality that rids HIV/AIDS education from being taught:

    No district shall include in its course of study instructions which-
    1) Promote a homosexual lifestyle.
    2) Portrays homosexuality as a positive alternative lifestyle.
    3) Suggests that some methods of sex are safe methods of homosexual sex.


    How would you feel as a child with these restrictions on your education? Anyways, feel free to apply some posts about this subject... it would be great to see some views! Thanks

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  • Mikeylikesit

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    May 14, 2008 12:47 PM GMT
    Well...Its alot differant generation nowerdays. Statistic show that HIV is up like 80% with men under 30, And like Down by 90% with men over 30. I think its because now there are all this drug contail therapies out there, where people can live with HIV. Where as in my day, there was nothing. I saw many friends die from HIV. Its not a pretty sight to look at. The "now" generation has not been through that epidemic. So, they just look at it as "you pop a pill & you;ll be fine".
  • twentyfourhou...

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    May 14, 2008 1:29 PM GMT
    I am all for educating our youth about HIV/AIDS BUT i do not think it should be tied to homosexuality - i believe this helps to promote the stigma that the two go hand in hand or that if one is a heterosexual, they are not at risk.
    Rather that bring hetero/homo/bi (sexuality) into the discussion - i try to emphasis sexual practices that increase the risk of acquiring HIV infection.
    As an HIV/AIDS health care professional - i have already delivered age appropriate information to my sons, the public school district and community i live in is unlikely to address HIV much less respect for those who do not fit into the majority.
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    May 14, 2008 1:43 PM GMT
    Why is it the job os public schools to teach sex education! Whatever happened to your parents and common sense
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    Oh right, those have been replaced by MTV....

    Schools can and should at least offer a health class that teaches about disease and concerns stemming from sex. But that's it. A school should not focus on singular lifestyles or offer lifestyle advice. They can teach about HIV/AIDS but there should be no reason to offer a specialized curriculum for gay students or teaching sex education broken down into straight and gay education.

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    May 14, 2008 2:07 PM GMT
    It should be taught along with the all the other STD's. Why give it more or less attention than Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Hepatitis and Syphilis?
    HIV/AIDS doesn't care who it infects, we should be teaching kids to protect themselves.
  • MSUBioNerd

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    May 14, 2008 3:04 PM GMT
    "Why give it more or less attention than Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Hepatitis and Syphilis? "

    It deserves more attention because it's the most common of the lethal STDs. Syphilis is quite rare in the developed world. Chlamydia and Gonorrhea pretty much don't kill you, and for the most part are treatable, being bacterial rather than viral. Even with the drug cocktails, the average life expectancy with HIV is considerably shorter than it is without.

    I agree that health classes really have little reason to be teachcing about lifestyles, and discussions of STDs should be more factual than ideological--give the facts about transmission rates, what lowers the probability of becoming infected, what the symptoms and treatments are of the various ones, and what the consequences are if you leave them untreated. It's also perfectly valid to give a nod toward abstinence when done reasonably--my high school health teacher, for instance, said something along the lines of "The only truly safe sex is masturbation. Any time there's someone else involved, you have at least some chance of contracting a disease, because the other person might not even know they have it and no protection is absolute. However, just because something can't be perfectly safe doesn't mean that it can't be safer than some other choices..." and went on to encourage use of condoms, thorough washing, serial monogamy, etc., all of which have actual public health benefits. There was also a discussion of routes of transmission and viral loads in various different bodily fluids, including the fact that receptive anal sex has a higher transmission rate for HIV than other sexual acts--there's likely to be some tearing of the anal wall, leading to bleeding, and any bleeding wound is an easy entry route for the virus. Some will construe an anti-gay-sex message in that, but it's merely fact, and something to therefore be careful about.
  • joeindallas

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    May 14, 2008 10:17 PM GMT
    Since the largest group that are getting AIDS are black females. I think the state of Arizona should get their act together and acknowledge that AIDS is real and getting worse and that Homosexuality is not an illness you get by talking about it
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    May 14, 2008 10:33 PM GMT
    I really DON'T think HIV/AIDS instruction should be taught in school anymorethan it already is(ie: Learned it's an STD, Africa, blah)

    Anymore and it'll seem like you're trying to lead a horse to water. It's still too soon to point which same-sexual acts should be taught in school, in my opinion anyway.

    I'd be pissed of if they put me in a class to teach me how to douche or something esls I wouldn't do otherwise icon_neutral.gif
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    May 14, 2008 10:36 PM GMT
    Exactly how kids in school should learn sex ed....


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    May 14, 2008 10:37 PM GMT
    twentyfourhourslaterRather that bring hetero/homo/bi (sexuality) into the discussion - i try to emphasis sexual practices that increase the risk of acquiring HIV infection.


    Right on! Present logical information and allow the youth to decide for themselves. (I'm not that old though...:cryicon_smile.gif
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    May 14, 2008 11:10 PM GMT
    It's no school's just to promote anything but intelligence. A heterosexual "lifestyle" shouldn't be promoted either. Kids should be educated about sex as early as possible and all manner of it. The more they know, the safer they'll be. Advocating a sexuality or even the idea of it is ludicrous. The ignorant masses of people believe that individuals can be recruited into a sexuality but someone else's advocacy of it. If that was the case, we'd all be str8.
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    May 15, 2008 2:24 AM GMT
    Public school education is all about teach important, vital things with an insipid and crippling mandated curriculum. But sadly, sex educators are watched like hawks, and the moment they stray from what the community and the state deem to be 'acceptable' (read: abstinence) you get fired. Remember Jocelyn Elders getting canned as Surgeon General because she suggested that masturbation get a mention?

    Some people feel that sex ed belongs in the home. But parents are fucking idiots. With the rate of STI's climbing our sex ed needs to be modernized and made relevant, not living in a magic fairly land where all unmarried people are virgins and the condom is something unmentionable.
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    May 15, 2008 11:58 AM GMT
    As if only homosexuals get AIDS icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 17, 2008 12:42 AM GMT
    I have no problems having STD (including HIV/AIDS)taught in schools, but you know what, when I hear techno-savvy teenagers griping about not being taught about safer sex, I just scratch my head.

    Take two minutes and google "safer sex practices" or "safer gay sex" and I am sure some good websites would pop up. If you can download music illegally, upload photos to MySpace, show your private parts to a total stranger using a webcam, then you can figure out how to do some research on safer sex.

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  • irishboxers

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    May 17, 2008 12:52 AM GMT
    twentyfourhourslater saidI am all for educating our youth about HIV/AIDS BUT i do not think it should be tied to homosexuality - i believe this helps to promote the stigma that the two go hand in hand or that if one is a heterosexual, they are not at risk.
    Rather that bring hetero/homo/bi (sexuality) into the discussion - i try to emphasis sexual practices that increase the risk of acquiring HIV infection.
    As an HIV/AIDS health care professional - i have already delivered age appropriate information to my sons, the public school district and community i live in is unlikely to address HIV much less respect for those who do not fit into the majority.


    I agree with this perspective 100%. HIV/AIDS isn't a gay disease. Homosexuality has nothing to do with its spread in Africa or, if it does, it's incidental to the epidemic there.

    Joining HIV/AIDS and homosexuality at the hip is extremely misleading.
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    Jun 03, 2008 8:51 PM GMT
    Trance23 saidWhy is it the job os public schools to teach sex education! Whatever happened to your parents and common sense
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    Oh right, those have been replaced by MTV....

    Schools can and should at least offer a health class that teaches about disease and concerns stemming from sex. But that's it. A school should not focus on singular lifestyles or offer lifestyle advice. They can teach about HIV/AIDS but there should be no reason to offer a specialized curriculum for gay students or teaching sex education broken down into straight and gay education.



    Wasnt replaced by MTV rather most parents feel its the governments responsibility to raise their children. Its the whole society cant accept responsibility for its actions. I still hear ignorant ass comments claiming HIV/AIDS is a fag disease.

    To the topic on hand I agree teaching about safer sex and the topic of HIV/AIDs in general doesnt have to be based on whether students are gay/straight/bi or even A sexual.

    In fact the only way people tend to get educated on this topic is either through school or they learn it on their own accord. Which brings about todays society. Still large portions of uneducated population.