83%... wow

  • DaToNY22

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    May 14, 2008 4:45 AM GMT
    A study has shown that ABOVE ALL OTHERS, the word "gay" is used most frequently in schools.. 83%. When asked in what context, it was mostly used in non-sexual connotations. Is this homophobic/heterosexist? What do you think about this? icon_idea.gif

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    May 14, 2008 4:49 AM GMT
    not sure it there is a correct answer for this. i know i have used it before.
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    May 14, 2008 4:55 AM GMT
    Tonydastallion21 saidA study has shown that ABOVE ALL OTHERS, the word "gay" is used most frequently in schools.. 83%. When asked in what context, it was mostly used in non-sexual connotations. Is this homophobic/heterosexist? What do you think about this? icon_idea.gif

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    Probably the term "That's Gay" refering to something in a condescending way.....that's my only guess. I hung out with a friend who teachers with her students and they said that alot. icon_eek.gif
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    May 14, 2008 4:57 AM GMT
    95.7% of statistics are made up on the spot, which is pretty gay if you ask me.
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    May 14, 2008 5:59 AM GMT
    gees I wonder what they would find down in Oz. Poof/poofters is still well used down here in schools.

    To call a str8 guy gay, is a big insult, or that's so gay.

    Teacher down here are trying to outlaw the terms girlfriend/boyfriend. husband and wife.

    It all to becomes partner. I think this is a load of crap. if I was to get married. He would be my husband, and not partner anymore.

    I must also add. We also have a lot of dykes whom are teachers.
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    May 14, 2008 8:30 AM GMT
    Sounds to me like that study was made up by a bunch of fags.
  • GQjock

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    May 14, 2008 10:53 AM GMT
    Adolescents esp boys are extremely homophobic
    and a lot of their "talk" reflects this attitude

    But don't forget... these are people who are just awaking in their sexual lives
    and anything that it looked at to be "different" even if they are gay themselves is shunned and badmouthed
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    May 14, 2008 10:56 AM GMT
    JohnnyD saidSounds to me like that study was made up by a bunch of fags.


    No fags would not be bothered by such a thing.

    It would be the gays, or bi's, or maybe dyke's.

    Is your wife out tonight?
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    May 14, 2008 12:51 PM GMT
    thats so gay!
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    May 14, 2008 1:18 PM GMT
    Tonydastallion21 saidA study has shown that ABOVE ALL OTHERS, the word "gay" is used most frequently in schools.. 83%. When asked in what context, it was mostly used in non-sexual connotations. Is this homophobic/heterosexist? What do you think about this? icon_idea.gif

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    That's so gay.

    That car is so gay.

    Wow this teacher is F*cking gay.


    I think the word gay has evolved beyond homosexual meaning. I'd wager most of its uses now are just as another slang word without giving a thought to its meaning.
  • jarhead5536

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    May 14, 2008 3:29 PM GMT
    danielryan saidthats so gay!


    Even though the epithet has evolved into a generic, non-sexual dismissal, it still hurts a little. It still is a put down, meaning being gay is something worthy of contempt.
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    May 14, 2008 3:33 PM GMT
    So gay has gone from "happy" to "homosexual" to "lame". *sigh*
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    May 14, 2008 3:34 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]jarhead5536 said[/cite]
    danielryan saidthats so gay!


    Even though the epithet has evolved into a generic, non-sexual dismissal, it still hurts a little. It still is a put down, meaning being gay is something worthy of contempt.[/quote]

    You are correct. I recently spent a week with 300 13 and 14 yr olds and had 5 boys in my cabin. After a couple of comments by them using the word gay, we talked about it and I took the opportunity to tell them that it could be offensive as they were using it. Their response was one of interest. They were very attentive to hear why and I don't think they really realized it. I have a 13 yr old who says it frequently, I suspect that after mid June when she finds out about her dad, she may re-evaluate the use of the word so freely, we'll see.
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    May 14, 2008 3:58 PM GMT
    Tonydastallion21 saidA study has shown...


    Buckwheet said95.7% of statistics are made up on the spot, which is pretty gay if you ask me.


    Exactly. What study???

    XRuggerATX saidSo gay has gone from "happy" to "homosexual" to "lame". *sigh*


    Sounds like many people I know icon_lol.gificon_wink.gif

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    May 14, 2008 4:05 PM GMT
    Buckwheet said95.7% of statistics are made up on the spot, which is pretty gay if you ask me.


    LOL!!
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    May 14, 2008 4:26 PM GMT
    I am not sure what study Tony is referring to, but the gold standard is GLSEN's School Climate Survey.

    Here are the key findings in the executive summary for their 2005 report

    Key Findings of the 2005 National School Climate Survey include:

    75. 4% of students heard derogatory remarks such as "faggot" or "dyke" frequently or often at school, and nearly nine out of ten (89.2%) reported hearing "that's so gay" or "you're so gay" - meaning stupid or worthless- frequently or often.

    Over a third (37.8%) of students experienced physical harassment at school on the basis of sexual orientation and more than a quarter (26.1%) on the basis of their gender expression. Nearly one-fifth (17.6%) of students had been physically assaulted because of their sexual orientation and over a tenth (11.8%) because of their gender expression.

    LGBT students were five times more likely to report having skipped school in the last month because of safety concerns than the general population of students.

    LGBT students who experience more frequent physical harassment were more likely to report they did not plan to go to college. Overall, LGBT students were twice as likely as the general population of students to report they were not planning to pursue any post-secondary education.

    The average GPA for LGBT students who were frequently physically harassed was half a grade lower than that of LGBT students experiencing less harassment (2.6 versus 3.1).
  • ep83

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    May 14, 2008 9:06 PM GMT
    I have friends who say that a bunch, despite getting a lecture from me each time. It doesn't offend me because I know them, but it's amazing how little awareness or sensitivity even the most tolerant people have sometimes.

    I don't get confrontational about it though. I often make some lame comment about "yes, that exam sure was attracted to an exam of the same sex." That is usually sufficient to point out the ridiculousness of the statement.

    When I dealt with little kids I would make more of an effort to explain why saying "that's so gay" or the like wasn't okay.
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    May 14, 2008 9:41 PM GMT
    I absolutely hate the word "Homosexual". I like the word Gay, I don't even mind Fag or Faggot, at least I have a reason to pick a fight with that word, verbal or otherwise but not Homosexual. Homosexual is an evil condescending word intolerant straight people use
    to demean us.

    When I first started in the Insurance business I asked my boss if there was a means to sell Life Insurance to Gay and Lesbian couples that can designate their partner as the beneficiary. Because of the "Insurable Interest" clause defined by most state's Department of Insurance and most Insurance Company policies, this could be a problem.

    My Boss just looked at me like I was an idiot and said; "you mean homosexuals?" There is a way around the "Insurable Interest" clause but he was reluctant to tell me how to do it. I no longer work for that company but it was an excellent vehicle for learning about the business.

    So, I really hate the word "Homosexual". It's the one word that really fires me up.




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    May 15, 2008 11:37 AM GMT
    Quick someone think up a nastier word than 'Breeder'!
  • bradsmith

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    May 15, 2008 12:09 PM GMT
    When I was in HS (pleistocene era), the most common epithet of this nature was "Mo"...as in "Homo" with "Fag" as well. These tended to be used as a cut against guys who weren't living up to the heterosexual standard. My feeling about "gay" is that its less destructive and even has a component of admiration...because it marks the fact that we're set apart...and not always in a bad way. "That's so gay"...is light years better than "Hey Mo"...because it's now being used as an adjective for broader things than just a person's behavior. In other words, things, people, places, words, etc. all can be called "gay". So I think its a sign of progress...sure, there needs to be education about it, but I still think it hides a secret piece of admiration...or perhaps my self-esteem simply runneth over...(grin)
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    May 23, 2008 2:11 AM GMT
    I think like a lot of misogynistic put downs they originally come from something hateful but 75% of the people using them don't understand the meaning. It is still evidence that people look down on us

    I also made that stat up
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    May 23, 2008 3:55 AM GMT
    when i read in a forum or hear someone in the conversation says "X is gay" i say "yes, X is very homosexual" in an alluring voice. it's so funny.
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    Sep 13, 2008 7:44 PM GMT
    When you find out you got a bad deal on a purchase you made, and you say, "Man, what a gyp!" ...... does it really mean you are prejudiced against Gypsies? (Which is where the term came from)

    I think not. Sometimes the meaning of words evolves.
  • Teacherguy

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    Sep 13, 2008 7:56 PM GMT
    well i'm a teacher...i teach grade 8 and i don't let my students use that word to describe how they might dislike something. I encourage them to use more appropriate vocabulary...

    Most of my students are quite disgusted by the idea of homosexuality and would not be afraid to tell you so....and so when they use "Thats so gay" i really do feel they use it to hurt and debase homosexuality.

    There's not wrong expressing you don't like something or find it stupid...but perhaps there is a better way to do it.

    I tell my students..."Let's try to be kind to one another".
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    Sep 13, 2008 9:01 PM GMT
    Sedative saidQuick someone think up a nastier word than 'Breeder'!


    when some of my friends (by accident/inconsiderate reflexes) use derogatory expressions including the word gay, I just call them hetero swine. It's not very clever but it somehow gets their attention lol.

    words are funny though, I sometimes like to use a single old expression or word in everyday speech as a joke, cos it sounds funny. It would be funny if you native speakers of english began using the word gay in the original sense of the word (with the risk of being misunderstood for a homophobe LOL).

    try saying this to students: "I love this class, you guys are such a gay bunch"

    personally, I like Luther Vandross' hit "The Glow of Love" with the first verse going:

    Flowers bloom in morning dew
    and the beauty seems to say
    It's a pleasure when you treasure
    all that's new and true and gay.

    it's a very gay song, when I hear it I get in such a gay mood icon_lol.gif