Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens

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    May 14, 2008 1:48 PM GMT
    Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens

    By ARIEL DAVID, Associated Press Writer

    VATICAN CITY - Believing that the universe may contain alien life does not contradict a faith in God, the Vatican's chief astronomer said in an interview published Tuesday.

    The Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes, the Jesuit director of the Vatican Observatory, was quoted as saying the vastness of the universe means it is possible there could be other forms of life outside Earth, even intelligent ones.

    "How can we rule out that life may have developed elsewhere?" Funes said. "Just as we consider earthly creatures as 'a brother,' and 'sister,' why should we not talk about an 'extraterrestrial brother'? It would still be part of creation."

    In the interview by the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, Funes said that such a notion "doesn't contradict our faith" because aliens would still be God's creatures. Ruling out the existence of aliens would be like "putting limits" on God's creative freedom, he said.

    The interview, headlined "The extraterrestrial is my brother," covered a variety of topics including the relationship between the Roman Catholic Church and science, and the theological implications of the existence of alien life.

    Funes said science, especially astronomy, does not contradict religion, touching on a theme of Pope Benedict XVI, who has made exploring the relationship between faith and reason a key aspect of his papacy.

    The Bible "is not a science book," Funes said, adding that he believes the Big Bang theory is the most "reasonable" explanation for the creation of the universe. The theory says the universe began billions of years ago in the explosion of a single, super-dense point that contained all matter.

    But he said he continues to believe that "God is the creator of the universe and that we are not the result of chance."

    Funes urged the church and the scientific community to leave behind divisions caused by Galileo's persecution 400 years ago, saying the incident has "caused wounds."

    In 1633 the astronomer was tried as a heretic and forced to recant his theory that the Earth revolved around the sun. Church teaching at the time placed Earth at the center of the universe.

    "The church has somehow recognized its mistakes," he said. "Maybe it could have done it better, but now it's time to heal those wounds and this can be done through calm dialogue and collaboration."

    Pope John Paul declared in 1992 that the ruling against Galileo was an error resulting from "tragic mutual incomprehension."

    The Vatican Observatory has been at the forefront of efforts to bridge the gap between religion and science. Its scientist-clerics have generated top-notch research and its meteorite collection is considered one of the world's best.

    The observatory, founded by Pope Leo XIII in 1891, is based in Castel Gandolfo, a lakeside town in the hills outside Rome where the pope has a summer residence. It also conducts research at an observatory at the University of Arizona, in Tucson.


    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080513/ap_on_re_eu/vatican_aliens

    http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hkZ-EuLUcs2evw8TSyNbsuStpAGw

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24598508/

    If the Catholic church continues along this path, I'll personally eat crow on my rants against it. Heh It's far past time they acknowledge science.
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    May 14, 2008 2:44 PM GMT
    Sedative said[i]
    Heh It's far past time they acknowledge science.



    Oh, but we do icon_smile.gif

    Now, are you ready to join yet icon_question.gificon_wink.gif
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    May 14, 2008 4:39 PM GMT
    Wow can we believe in Fairies too????

    GO Catholic's GO!!!!!!!!
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    May 14, 2008 5:24 PM GMT
    Anything to up membership...icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 14, 2008 5:54 PM GMT
    I knew it was the Martian's probes and not the priests' tallywackers all along.
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    May 14, 2008 6:12 PM GMT
    The sonofabitch thinks he's still doing the movie. Idiot!
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    May 14, 2008 6:16 PM GMT
    Hmmm, this is either to get more people to join because the expanding perceptions people have had about life in the universe for years; or their insurance policy for the time, and if ever, aliens do come to earth. Boy the times they are a changing - again. First the 60's, 80's and now...
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    May 14, 2008 8:29 PM GMT
    What if the alien is pregnant?

    (Sorry, bad joke. I couldn't resist.)
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    May 14, 2008 8:41 PM GMT
    Worse, what if the aliens are a race of asexual reproducing male homosexuals?
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    May 14, 2008 8:57 PM GMT
    So long as they're smart, funny, and hot... I'm move to that planet!!!
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    May 14, 2008 8:59 PM GMT
    Will this lead to tin foil miters?
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    May 14, 2008 9:39 PM GMT
    then, ould there be a jesus on each planet with civilization? was God a player, going town to town like a vacuum salesman?
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    May 14, 2008 9:50 PM GMT
    What if we discover pro-choice aliens? Should we call them a damned race then icon_wink.gif

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    May 14, 2008 9:50 PM GMT
    I wouldn't think it would do anything but work in the church's favor. Allowing for the existence of aliens fits neatly within intelligent design, something I love to bring up with people who believe in it.
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    May 14, 2008 9:53 PM GMT
    JustJohn saidI wouldn't think it would do anything but work in the church's favor. Allowing for the existence of aliens fits neatly within intelligent design, something I love to bring up with people who believe in it.


    That new brand of creationism has already been soundly defeatedicon_wink.gif


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    May 14, 2008 10:13 PM GMT
    Jackal69 saidWhat if the alien is pregnant?

    (Sorry, bad joke. I couldn't resist.)
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well by all means, if the alien is pregnant, then the church will need to find out if it is ligitimate, or illigitimate. Ligitimate = OK-Fine !!! bring it in when born so it can be christened with holy water to become the first of the catholic churches "ALIEN BRANCH", in the event that this alien is illigitimate, then the "ALIEN MOTHER" should do 10 "OH HELL" marys a day, 9 deep knee bends, 8 pushups, 7 situps, 6 pullups, 5 jumping jacks, 4 palms touching the floor stretches, 3 back flips, 2 squats, and find 1 "PARTRIDGE IN A PEAR TREE". This will assure that this newborn "ALIEN" will be a true "REALJOCK" at birth !!!!! LOL !!!
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    May 14, 2008 10:21 PM GMT
    So they say it's ok to believe in aliens, but not that homosexuals are capable of living a "normal" life and are valid creatures? Baby steps I guess.
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    May 14, 2008 11:32 PM GMT
    So long as Vat City keeps it's laws, and thoughts within vat City, One really does not care what this little country thinks.

    It "tis when it invade foreign lands to force it's will, One has issues with this dictatorship. But then the last pop also said. "any county whom embraces homosexuality, is mentally deranged." Now if that's not the kettle calling the pot black.
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    May 15, 2008 8:53 AM GMT
    Pattison saidSo long as Vat City keeps it's laws, and thoughts within vat City, One really does not care what this little country thinks.

    It "tis when it invade foreign lands to force it's will, One has issues with this dictatorship. But then the last pop also said. "any county whom embraces homosexuality, is mentally deranged." Now if that's not the kettle calling the pot black.



    Jeez, Pat, you are calling him Pop now.

    Now I'm not saying you are right or wrong, but can you show me, or point me to where that quote ("any county whom embraces homosexuality, is mentally deranged") is?

    I'm sure it is writing or recorded somewhere?


    Mike
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    May 15, 2008 10:54 AM GMT
    How about alien child-molesters?

    .... or would they just get transferred to another planet?
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    May 15, 2008 11:15 AM GMT
    I think the Vatican will prefer to think of LGBT as aliens. icon_razz.gif
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    May 15, 2008 11:22 AM GMT
    Auryn saidSo they say it's ok to believe in aliens, but not that homosexuals are capable of living a "normal" life and are valid creatures? Baby steps I guess.


    My dry comments are clearly unneeded here.
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    May 15, 2008 1:12 PM GMT
    MikePhil said[quote][cite]Pattison said[/cite]So long as Vat City keeps it's laws, and thoughts within vat City, One really does not care what this little country thinks.

    It "tis when it invade foreign lands to force it's will, One has issues with this dictatorship. But then the last pop also said. "any county whom embraces homosexuality, is mentally deranged." Now if that's not the kettle calling the pot black.



    Jeez, Pat, you are calling him Pop now.

    Now I'm not saying you are right or wrong, but can you show me, or point me to where that quote ("any county whom embraces homosexuality, is mentally deranged") is?

    I'm sure it is writing or recorded somewhere?


    Mike[/quote]

    Stand by what I said. Oh One just did not put the E at the end of Pope.

    The last pope. I'm sure it was in his last year released a book on Glossary. Under homosexuals, he made his wicked and outdated statement. The gays of Italy went crazy over it. Seek and you will find!!!

    But Mike you live in Ireland. So Ireland is in the British Isles. Look at all the hate repression, wars, murder. That have been done in this foreign land, by Vat City's, want to force it's will on foreign soil. England has more right there than Rome.

    Sorry but the truth is not always nice.
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    May 16, 2008 11:17 AM GMT
    Stolen from The Onion's American Voices section
    Vatican chief astronomer Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes stated that belief in extraterrestrial life is not contradictory with church doctrine because aliens would still be God's creatures. What do you think?

    Babette Kroll,
    Systems Analyst
    "Is that the same astronomer who pardoned Galileo? He's really on fire this decade."

    Mark Klein,
    Opthalmic Dispenser
    "Get with the times, Catholicism. Scientology already proved that aliens are real."

    Jerry Goodwiler,
    Cashier
    "Sure, what's the harm in believing in two things with no physical evidence?"


    Damn that's a funny site. I must say I particularly enjoy the last one.
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    May 16, 2008 12:02 PM GMT
    4barbela said

    Jerry Goodwiler,
    Cashier
    "Sure, what's the harm in believing in two things with no physical evidence?"


    Damn that's a funny site. I must say I particularly enjoy the last one.


    ROFL