Having an older pet

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    Sep 19, 2011 2:44 AM GMT
    This is someone's reflection on having an older dog. Do you have an older pet? And if so, how old. Also curious what kind of health problems you're seeing and how you're treating them.

    http://www.nola.com/pets/index.ssf/2011/09/old_terrier_takes_each_morning.html
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:01 AM GMT
    Hey Scruffy!
    One is 16 soon 17, another is 15.

    The 16 year-old has cancer (eye and brain, slow progression), has had a massive stroke, and is doing fine.
    The 15 year old is experiencing gradual renal failure, terrible life long foods allergies (very serious ones) and low protein food is preventing incontinence, and is also doing fine.
    They run me ragged with their antics.

    Then there's our youngest, who is four, a little dynamo and she keeps the other two feeling young.

    -Doug

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    Sep 19, 2011 3:03 AM GMT
    meninlove said Hey Scruffy!
    One is 16 soon 17, another is 15.

    The 16 year-old has cancer (eye and brain, slow progression), has had a massive stroke, and is doing fine.
    The 15 year old is experiencing gradual renal failure, terrible life long foods allergies (very serious ones) and low protein food is preventing incontinence, and is also doing fine.
    They run me ragged with their antics.

    Then there's our youngest, who is four, a little dynamo and she keeps the other two feeling young.

    -Doug





    That gives me hope. Both of my guys are 14. They're doing great, but arthritis is a problem. I just increased their exercise routine to maybe help them. I don't think they've been getting enough.
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:15 AM GMT


    Ours have arthritis, too, but more exercise isn't the answer at advanced age. We buy capsules of chondroitin glucosamine, most vitamin counters in most stores sell it (not a veterinary clinic which is more $$$) not pills or caplets, and break a 500 mg (one per dog) every night into supper for them each. They don't mind the powder. Pills are more difficult.

    Here's some info, though the debate rages, we've seen the evidence from using it for several years. It worked.

    http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/supplements/a/glucosamine.htm
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:27 AM GMT
    meninlove said

    Ours have arthritis, too, but more exercise isn't the answer at advanced age. We buy capsules of chondroitin glucosamine, most vitamin counters in most stores sell it (not a veterinary clinic which is more $$$) not pills or caplets, and break a 500 mg (one per dog) every night into supper for them each. They don't mind the powder. Pills are more difficult.

    Here's some info, though the debate rages, we've seen the evidence from using it for several years. It worked.

    http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/supplements/a/glucosamine.htm



    I already give them lots of glucosamine (Liquid Health 5000 in liquid form.) They also get omega 3 oil, currently salmon oil, but I switch that up frequently. I add probiotics to their food to keep their immune systems healthy and also spiralina. I've had them on a raw diet the past couple of years, plus even their treats are raw. They make these raw tripe treats they absolutely freak over, which is also good for their teeth, gums and jaw muscles. I'm making an appointment with a dog chiropractor next week, as I'm told that's very helpful.
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:38 AM GMT
    I have an older cat. Does that count? No? I guess I can't be part of this club.

    BTW, if you're interested in any of the glucosamine products, like Cosequin, they are much cheaper to buy online. The mark-up at the vet's office is insane. You often don't need a prescription for those products either.
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:38 AM GMT
    Trollileo saidMy golden retriever is almost 12. Not that old, but getting there.

    Last summer we discovered he had a benign tumor in his jaw. We had to have the left of his jaw removed in order to treat it. For the first two weeks he didn't eat. The veterinarian never told me what was common in dogs after the surgery so it kind of scared me. It was horrible and I didn't eat either. He always looked so sad whenever I ate so I just fasted. He did manage to drink water, though.

    Two months after the surgery, though, he was back to his usual self. He does slobber a lot more, but I don't mind it. He's just happy.

    Those two months were definitely the worst of my life, though. I still get sick thinking about it.

    I haven't seen Sunshine since Christmas. I'm hoping that he's healthy. My family says he is. I'm hoping to get him out of Alaska soon, though. I can't stand being 3000 miles away from him.



    Awwww, that's so sad. Your good-hearted person. I hope you get your friend back soon.
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:40 AM GMT
    DudeInNOVA saidI have an older cat. Does that count? No? I guess I can't be part of this club.

    BTW, if you're interested in any of the glucosamine products, like Cosequin, they are much cheaper to buy online. The mark-up at the vet's office is insane. You often don't need a prescription for those products either.



    Of course cats count. I changed the thread to be more inclusive.
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:43 AM GMT
    "Of course cats count. I changed the thread to be more inclusive."

    *winks at Scruffy*

    Very kind of you, Sir.
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:44 AM GMT
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    DudeInNOVA saidI have an older cat. Does that count? No? I guess I can't be part of this club.

    BTW, if you're interested in any of the glucosamine products, like Cosequin, they are much cheaper to buy online. The mark-up at the vet's office is insane. You often don't need a prescription for those products either.



    Of course cats count. I changed the thread to be more inclusive.


    I was just being a smart-ass, but thanks for the inclusion. My cat thinks he's a dog anyway. Seriously. I have to keep the toilet lids down to keep him from drinking out of it. He learned that from a dog growing up.

    My cat is doing well for such an old man. He is having renal failure, but it seems to be progressing so slowly that he could last for years. I give him Cosequin daily, but I'm not sure it does any good. He's just at that age where his body is getting too sore.

    He was the first pet that I had all to myself. I had another cat that I adopted when he was older, but I lost him a couple of years ago. I had a dog for a while too, but she died young from cancer.

    OK, now this topic is depressing me.
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:50 AM GMT
    I don't have an older dog at the moment, the eldest is currently 8. However I've had two Border Collies over the years get up there to the 13-14 y.o. age. The last one began getting arthritis and the vet suggested a free 7 day trial of Deramaxx. I'd been giving him an occasional half aspirin which is ok occasionally.
    The Deramaxx worked wonders. It was somewhat expensive but he could get buy fine on half a pill, they're easily dividable and it's ok to do that with them. It was worth it to see him not in pain.
    Here's their website http://www.deramaxx.com/home/default.asp?page=0_0
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:56 AM GMT
    Trollileo saidHere's something happier. When I was suffering from the flu when I was 12 (people honestly thought I was going to die) my dog would sit in my bed to protect me and would actually attack my parents when they tried to get near me. He wouldn't even leave the bed for food or water so they'd bring it to him on my bed.

    Ok, maybe that wasn't a very happy addition.


    Awwww. Sweet story. My pets have never done anything like that for me. Usually, if I'm feeling sick, they smother me because they're not getting enough attention. Or maybe they're just trying to induce a therapeutic fever. icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 19, 2011 8:19 AM GMT
    great to hear from all you pet owners and pet lovers. maccabee will be turning 7 in november and i sometimes think what if... breaks my heart as they are in our lives for such short periods of time and how they become just a part of us. they give us such joy and peace of mind and i love reading and hearing about all you guys doing whatever it takes to make them feel better.
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    Sep 19, 2011 10:11 AM GMT
    My Iguana is 7 years old. He's in good health and can live till around age 20. I thought I lost him last summer when he escaped out a window screen and was gone for 2 months. Then one day, there he was in the driveway. I just picked him up and brought him back in. (And fixed the windows)

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    Sep 19, 2011 10:51 AM GMT
    I had a cat who lived to be 19. She didn't show much sign of aging until she was about 16, when she lost her appetite and started to act like an old lady. In desperation, I played with her diet: I'd always fed so-called healthy foods like Science Diet, etc, but I began to incorporate freshly made food (mostly chicken thighs blitzed with some veggies and grain).

    Huge change. She ate more, moved better and did pretty darn well until the last month or so. I think many pets would do better with more fresh foods in their diet.
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    Sep 19, 2011 11:00 AM GMT
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    TheGuyNextDoor saidAhhh yes.. aging pets! We want them to live forever but they their time with us is so brief. As far as canines go.. I lost Buddy a few years back to aging issues at 14. This pic was taken on his last boat ride in Lake Placid, He Loved the water and cool mountain air....
    I can always see how sad I was in this pic,, knowing it was his last boat ride...Awww.. kills me still to even write that! *tear*
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    Buddy looks so majestic.


    I would have to agree with you there Trollileo
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    Sep 19, 2011 1:56 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidI had a black Labrador that lived until twenty. He actually had to be put down because his health was failing. Well, honestly all he was experiencing was some mild incontinence. I was nineteen at the time. He was the best dog. I was on vacation with my mother and my brothers back home took him to the vet to have him put down. Everyone knew what was happening except me. They all thought they were protecting me by not including me in the family decisions. I felt betrayed by their actions.



    Oh my God, that's horrible! Not sure I could ever forgive that.
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    Sep 19, 2011 2:20 PM GMT
    Kobaltjak saidI had a cat who lived to be 19. She didn't show much sign of aging until she was about 16, when she lost her appetite and started to act like an old lady. In desperation, I played with her diet: I'd always fed so-called healthy foods like Science Diet, etc, but I began to incorporate freshly made food (mostly chicken thighs blitzed with some veggies and grain).

    Huge change. She ate more, moved better and did pretty darn well until the last month or so. I think many pets would do better with more fresh foods in their diet.



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    That's exactly what happened to me. I found some lumps on Kelly, took him to the vet and the vet told me that he was 95% sure he was in the LAST stages of cancer. He said he'd have to wait until the lab results came back but he was pretty certain. So I called my boyfriend and told him the news. We both had a good cry and waited for the call the next day. My vet apologized and said he was wrong. This scared me so bad it caused me to research cancer in dogs. This search led me to the ingredients in commercial dog food. I was HORRIFIED. So I immediately threw out the dog food and started cooking for them. It was a lot of work but I made it in a huge pot and froze the rest in plastic containers. They showed an immediate difference in their energy levels and less arthritic symptoms. After a year or so of cooking for them, I met a dog nutritionist who applauded me for cooking for them but assured me that raw food would be an even better improvement. So they have been totally raw for 1.5 years now and she was right...their health is excellent for their ages. (Kelly is the little guy who just stole pizza off the coffee table. He was allowed to eat that pizza back then, but they're never allowed breads or grains now.)
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    Sep 19, 2011 2:22 PM GMT


    This is why I took them off of commercial dog food. And yes, even expensive brands contain rendered dogs, cats and roadkill.
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    Sep 19, 2011 3:01 PM GMT
    @TheGuyNextDoor -

    Great picture of you and Buddy. Love that face...just makes me want to squish his face in my hands he's so cute!

    Dogs more than humans, make me wonder if there's something more after death. It's hard for me to believe that the dog riding in that boat with you will never see you again. I can't explain it, but something tells me he will.
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    Sep 20, 2011 12:03 AM GMT
    Astonishing how they thrive on good food. I was feeding raw meat mixed with cooked grains; the veggies depended on how soft they were. I'd say congratulations on the discovery, but it's clear that all of you are enjoying the benefits already.
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    Sep 20, 2011 12:24 AM GMT
    I have a 14 year old kitty who I love to death.


    Luckily, not too many health probems...... I keep him active and feed him low fat urinary tract protection food....its special vet I can only get fom the vet. '

    Also, I love him so much I think that keeps him in good spirits.