WHAT MAKES SAN FRANSISCO THE GAYEST CITY IN THE WORLD?

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    May 15, 2008 3:52 AM GMT
    WHY IS SAN FRAN THE GAY CAPITOL?
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    May 15, 2008 4:05 AM GMT
    The legacy of Harvey Milk.
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    May 15, 2008 4:14 AM GMT
    Life Magazine in 1955 proclaimed the city the "gayest place in America." The unwanted label stuck (at the time in the 1950s, San Francisco cops could arrest and jail you for a homosexual act). But in addition to New York City during those times of strife, San Francisco managed to symbolize a large degree of openness unseen elsewhere in the country, and the world, for that matter, especially in the 1960s and 1970s (i.e.: Harvey Milk).

    To this day, the two largest gay parades are held in New York City and San Francisco.
  • Hunter9

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    May 15, 2008 4:48 AM GMT
    SF is not "THE" gay capital, it is "A" gay capital. And you live there... so why don't you tell us.
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    May 15, 2008 4:51 AM GMT
    Because it's fabulous?
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    May 15, 2008 5:11 AM GMT
    I AGREE IT IS TOTALLY FABULOUS. I JUS WAS CURIOUS HOW IT BECAME A CITY KNOW FOR HAVING ALOT OF GAY PPL....... APARENTLY THX TO CMNTS ABOVE SOMEONE NAMED HARVEY MIL
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    May 15, 2008 5:29 AM GMT
    Milk is certainly a big reason -- but that's recent. It got its gay rep long before.

    There's two theories I've heard:

    1) Back in the Barbary Coast days -- SF was a big port of call for navy and merchant ships from all over the world. Gay guys at sea would "sow their wild oats" with each other when on shore leave in SF. The theory is that the city made such an impression on these sailors, that they returned here to live after their careers at sea ended.

    2) During WW II, the US military actively sought out and discharged gay guys -- most of these discharges for the Pacific theater were processed in SF. A lot of those folks stayed around.

    Maybe some gay historians could give some support or disprove these two theories?
  • SFTraveler

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    May 15, 2008 5:29 AM GMT
    I agree that Harvey Milk made all the difference. Seeing him in action, you could tell that he loved being gay and loved being open about it. With his infectious smile and wonderful sense of humor, he made nearly everyone feel very comfortable with him. Even his assassin, Dan White, came to like and admire Harvey and they cooperated on several issues until White quit the board of supervisors for financial reasons and became angry when Harvey would not support his effort to regain his seat.
    The only ones that I remember feeling uncomfortable with Harvey were stick-in-the-mud people like Dianne Feinstein, who felt Harvey was too flamboyant. Harvey didn't care. He just went on being who he was.
    Yet, Harvey was not just a gay supervisor. He fought for seniors, for the disabled, for kids and they came to love him.
    His death was a tragedy for the city, but his legacy opened the door for gays and lesbians to become part of the power structure in San Francisco and a force to be respected. I still miss him terribly.
    Every time I walk down Castro Street and see GLBT folks walking openly and proudly in THEIR city, I thank God for Harvey.
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    May 15, 2008 5:59 AM GMT
    str8hardbody saidSan Francisco is a gorgeous city. One of the most romantic city in the world. But for the guys the gay guys there are SO UGLY


    And you're a DICK
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    May 15, 2008 6:00 AM GMT
    Hunter9 said[quote][cite]str8hardbody said[/cite]San Francisco is a gorgeous city. One of the most romantic city in the world. But for the guys the gay guys there are SO UGLY


    And you're a DICK[/quote]wow, that was a dumb comment. yea he is a dick.
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    May 15, 2008 6:08 AM GMT
    Hunter9 saidAnd you're a DICK


    LOL.

    I love this place.


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    May 15, 2008 6:21 AM GMT
    str8hardbody saidSan Francisco is a gorgeous city. One of the most romantic city in the world. But for the guys the gay guys there are SO UGLY


    nice...maybe you just met the wrong guys when you were here...there are some gorgeous men here...and some good hearted men here as well...it's the same with any major city...

    law of attraction...

    - David
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    May 15, 2008 6:49 AM GMT
    A bit of internet research also found this:

    "New York may have more gay residents. Montreal may have a larger gay village. But San Francisco is the undisputed gay capital of the world. How did it get such a status? Perhaps it’s the location, snug on a peninsula in the middle of a breathtaking bay surrounded by majestic hills. Perhaps it’s the famous attractions, like the Golden Gate Bridge, Alcatraz, Fisherman’s Wharf, with its wax museum, and Pier 39, with its sea lion community and Ripley’s Believe it or Not. Perhaps it’s the recreation areas that abound in the city, like Golden Gate National Recreation Area, a wild, untamed chunk of land on the bay perfect for hiking and kayaking, and Golden Gate Park a swathe of green larger than New York’s Central Park, filled with walking paths, museums, and performance spaces. Perhaps it is the unique neighborhoods, like Chinatown, largest of its kind in North America, Union Square, with its shopping, The Haight, with its punks, goths, and hippies, The Mission, with its nightlife and strong Latino heritage, Nob Hill, with its funky shops and great dining, SoMA, with museums and galleries, and the legendary Castro, the heart of Gay America. It could be any of these things, but we think the reas"on SF is the gay capitol of the world goes back much farther…all the way back to the era when it was called “Sodom by the Sea.” The 1800s. When rich gold miners indulged in every vice imaginable. This started the precedent for gay residence in the area. And in the 1970s when the police informed the residents of San Francisco and the world that as many as 70,000 gay residents might be living in the city, the city didn’t care, and the oppressed gay residents of the world responded by moving to San Fran to be among their own kind. And today it is estimated that nearly a third of the city’s residents are gay, and no city in the world is more influenced by its queer citizens. The city’s gay community tends to be politically charged, but laid-back, stressing individuality rather than fashion and beauty. Though The Castro is the famous gay center, you’ll find gay establishments and residences spread out liberally across all the neighborhoods of San Francisco (with noticeable collections in Hayes Valley and SoMa.) BART, the Bay Area Rapid Transit, is one of the nation’s best, and alleviates the need for a car in this congested city.

    San Francisco hosts one of the largest Pride events on the planet. Normally the last week in June, the event draws tens of thousands of revelers and activists, and is equal parts politics and party. In mid-June, Frameline, the International Lesbian and Gay Film Festival, is held. It’s the oldest and largest homo-film festival in the world. Up Your Alley is a major leather event held in Dore Alley. It takes place at the beginning of August (or end of July), and is second in popularity only to the Folsom Street Fair in late September, the defining event of the San Francisco leather community. In early October, the Castro Street Fair closes the street with dancing and entertainment. The AIDS Candlelight Memorial and Mobilization is a global event on the last Sunday of May. It had its beginnings here in San Francisco in 1983."


    http://www.edirp.com/gay-travel-guides/gay-san-francisco-guide.php

    - David
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    May 15, 2008 7:01 AM GMT
    San Francisco is possibly the coolest city on Earth - and that's saying something - take it from a guy who has been to great cities in over 123 countries. What makes the City (as we call it) one of the gayest in the world? The answer? The men - thousands of great looking, worked out, in shape, hunky, healthy, attractive - MEN! Here is just a sample of where I always see them:

    Working out at any one of a hundred health clubs

    Playing frisbee or flying kites on the Marina Green

    Surfing under the Golden Gate Bridge at Fort Point

    Playing hard-won games of tennis at Alice Marble Park atop Russian Hill

    Catching rays with lots of other handsome hunks at Lafayette or Washington Parks

    Riding bikes (usually shirtless) across the Golden Gate Bridge to Sausalito

    Driving Benz or Saub or other convertibles - flashing perfect smiles

    Hanging on a cable car - laughing - with the wind in their hair

    Shopping together at the best stores all over Union Square

    Roller blading up and down the Embarcadero

    Running from bridge to bridge along the bay

    Making out on a blanket among the flowers and trees of Golden Gate Park

    Enjoying the views of Alcatraz and Angel Island from Coit Tower

    Sailing on the bay - enjoying the best views of the City imaginable

    Climbing Nob Hill just to watch it get dark and have a drink at the Top of the Mark

    Walking hand in hand along Polk, Union, Castro, Taylor, Columbus or countless other streets going to dinner - or just hanging out together - with nobody giving you any crap about it!

    There are a thousand more examples of hot gay guys enjoying their lives in the City. One more reason SF may be among the gayest cities is the fact that we're accepted and respected there - and we do a heck of a lot for the real estate values, and we pump tons of money into City coffers. We're loved there! (OMG am I homesick!)
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    May 15, 2008 7:03 AM GMT
    take me there. i'll wash your clothes and your dishes.
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    May 15, 2008 2:09 PM GMT
    str8hardbody saidSan Francisco is a gorgeous city. One of the most romantic city in the world. But for the guys the gay guys there are SO UGLY



    hahaha you should know right?
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    May 15, 2008 2:38 PM GMT
    str8hardbody saidSan Francisco is a gorgeous city. One of the most romantic city in the world. But for the guys the gay guys there are SO UGLY


    Are you a fucktard in real life or just play one on the internet?
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    May 15, 2008 2:59 PM GMT
    str8hardbody saidSan Francisco is a gorgeous city. One of the most romantic city in the world. But for the guys the gay guys there are SO UGLY


    Really? I think SF is one of the nicest cities when you visit. But after living there its run down, dirty and full of homeless people. Compare it to a city like Chicago in cleanliness and that whole pretty picture will go away. Mind you, the area that San Francisco is in is gorgeous. The city itself has let itself go down hill.

    All that said, I have the most wonderful friends in the world that live there. Most of which were not gay. I would move back in a heartbeat just to be near them. It proves that it does not matter where you are, as loving as the people you love are around you.

    As far as being the gayest city, I do not think that is true either. I would say New York is much gayer. SF and Harvey Milk in particular has lead the gay population forward. You must remember that SF is a very small city, only 49 square miles. Its not huge and you often see the same folks. So for its size it is a powerful force, but not the gay capital we all think it is. I had few gay friends there and found the straight population to be more with it and current. Plus, there is such a "everything goes" attitude that people are able to segregate and find niche groups,. so the larger gay population does not interact with each other. Its kinda depressing.
  • jarhead5536

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    May 15, 2008 2:59 PM GMT
    If I remember this correctly, San Francisco and New York were the discharge points for all the GI's returning from WWII. These men came from all over America, and the gay ones had never come across other gay people until they joined the military. Having tasted the forbidden fruit, as it were, they remained in the two cities together with their new friends rather than return to an empty loveless small town existence.
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    May 15, 2008 3:04 PM GMT
    DJBens77 saidAs far as being the gayest city, I do not think that is true either.

    THEN WHICH IS THE GAYEST CITY? That, my friends, is the question... icon_biggrin.gificon_lol.gificon_razz.gificon_wink.gif
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    May 15, 2008 3:05 PM GMT
    str8hardbody saidSan Francisco is a gorgeous city. One of the most romantic city in the world. But for the guys the gay guys there are SO UGLY






    And apparently HOLLYWOOD got a little uglier the day YOU moved to town.
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    May 15, 2008 3:09 PM GMT
    And apparently HOLLYWOOD got a little uglier the day YOU moved to town.[/quote]
    icon_lol.gif It's funny cause it's true!!
  • Hagan_F

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    May 15, 2008 3:55 PM GMT
    What makes San Francisco the gayest city? Probably all the homosexuals that live there.
  • MattyC0709

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    May 15, 2008 4:12 PM GMT
    muttskins saidTHEN WHICH IS THE GAYEST CITY? That, my friends, is the question... icon_biggrin.gificon_lol.gificon_razz.gificon_wink.gif
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    May 15, 2008 6:05 PM GMT
    The fact that the CA Supreme Court just struck down the law banning same-sex marriage!

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/15/same.sex.marriage/index.html