Kevin Garnett broke my heart.

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    May 16, 2008 2:17 PM GMT
    I'm a big Boston Celtics fan. This season has been incredible, just like back in the 80's when they had Bird, McHale, Parish, etc.

    I told a friend: "I had NO idea about Kevin Garnett...none." The guy is an amazing player and has lifted the entire organization. I love the guy, love the NBA ad showing Bostonians celebrating his arrival.

    But...

    During game four in Cleveland, as TNT went to commercial break, they showed a slow motion clip of Garnett, pounding his chest, and saying very clearly "fucking faggots" as he looked up to the crowd. I even replayed it twice to make sure.

    I thought this guy was the epitome of class and a model player. Some think of him as the next Bill Russell in Boston (although I don't entirely agree). I know it's just words and of course his game is nearly flawless, but I now think of him as an overgrown high school kid prodigy. And kind of an ass.

    Can any Timberwolves fans comment on this?

    And the broader question...as gay sports fans (assuming many of us are), what's our tolerance for this sort of thing?
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    May 16, 2008 6:30 PM GMT
    I would have never known about who and what you speak of cuz I'm not really into watching televised sports...except when the Spurs are winning the Championships.icon_lol.gif
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    May 16, 2008 7:02 PM GMT
    Was there no reaction by the media to his saying "fucking faggots"? I bet there would be if a tape clearly showed a player saying "fucking ni**ers."
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    May 16, 2008 8:14 PM GMT
    caslon saidWas there no reaction by the media to his saying "fucking faggots"? I bet there would be if a tape clearly showed a player saying "fucking ni**ers."


    sad but so true

    and as for, tolerance for this sort of thing, i have none. there shouldnt have to be tolerance, we are fans, gay or not
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    May 16, 2008 8:35 PM GMT
    I guess this is what we get for making a guy with no more than a high school education the savior of the franchise. Oh well.
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    May 16, 2008 8:44 PM GMT
    Why did you not alert the media you could have called it in.

    Caslon: just so you know bigotry on any level should not be tolorated racially or otherwise and the next time spell the word out if you are man enough the think be man enough to write it!

    Either way your true colors or the have been exposed!
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    May 16, 2008 8:48 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]Ducky44 said[/cite]Why did you not alert the media you could have called it in.
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    Because I'm selling out in hopes that they'll win a championship without non-hoops distractions, if you want to know the truth. Maybe after the playoffs I'll stir things up.
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    May 16, 2008 9:01 PM GMT
    Of course there's still a tolerance for homophobia in sports. This reminded me of the "Homo Larry" issue in NY:
    http://gaylife.about.com/b/2008/03/21/gay-hockey-players-and-fans-respond-to-homo-larry-chants.htm
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    May 16, 2008 9:20 PM GMT
    There has always been homosexuals in sport, just as there has been in the military, religious leaders, and so on.

    Yet it is meant to be real man whom makes it to the top, and homosexuals are yet to come under the banner of real men. How many top gay athletes do you know of whom fly the rainbow flag? Yet more times than not their team mates know all about them.

    There is also a big difference in being black, and a homosexual. Homosexuals get the choice in hiding their sexuality. Some to the point where they take on a wife, and breed. Yet a black homosexual can take on a wife, and breed, but his still black. So a black homosexual gets a double whammy.

    I myself don't take it to heart if a sports person called out fucking faggot. It's if they go beating them up I drew the line. Yet I am at peace with my sexuality, and don't feel we need special treatment. How can we ask for equality, and want more rights, or special treatment?
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    May 16, 2008 9:23 PM GMT
    Ducky44 saidWhy did you not alert the media you could have called it in.

    Caslon: just so you know bigotry on any level should not be tolorated racially or otherwise and the next time spell the word out if you are man enough the think be man enough to write it!

    Either way your true colors or the have been exposed!


    ouch
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    May 16, 2008 9:36 PM GMT


    I dunno, it's not acceptable. But, it doesn't look like it's directed to anyone in particular. Least of all I don't think he was calling out gay men.
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    May 18, 2008 1:21 AM GMT
    "Epitome of Class"?????? Really, the man has the foulest mouth. He curses everyother word. But he is a good player, you cant take that away from him. I hate the word "fag". But in sports those types of words are always used. Its not right but it is done that way....that is why i stick to running as my only sport.
  • Hunter9

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    May 18, 2008 2:08 AM GMT
    thank you for providing the video above.

    thats really sad to see. im a laker fan but still have a ton of respect for KG as a player and a person and woulda loved to see him in a laker uniform.

    i dont condone what he said because that is highly unacceptable, but look at the situation in context. the series between BOS/CLE has been highly contentious and I'm sure the crowd was yelling all sorts of profanities at him. you would hope he would rise above that, but given the heat of the moment, obviously he didnt. also, it is true that the "f" words are quite common in locker room talk... very sad, but true. Overall this should not reflect that poorly on KG... but is more of an unfortunate social issue.

    I'm actually surprised and irritated at ABC that they would show that shot in slow-mo while cutting to commercial... that nobody caught it there... especially since they've been so god damn anal retentive about bleaping about every potential curse word that comes through the telecast
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    May 18, 2008 2:35 AM GMT
    orthojock said[quote][cite]Ducky44 said[/cite]Why did you not alert the media you could have called it in.

    Caslon: just so you know bigotry on any level should not be tolorated racially or otherwise and the next time spell the word out if you are man enough the think be man enough to write it!

    Either way your true colors or the have been exposed!


    ouch[/quote]

    Yeah...Ducky confuses yet again.
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    May 18, 2008 3:01 AM GMT
    I get told a lot that I look like Kevin Garnett...I guess now it changes whether I take it as a complement or an insult...Damn!!!
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    May 18, 2008 4:56 AM GMT
    why does every sports-team related thread die such a quick death? this is an athlete-centric site... were we that humiliated in gym class that team sports holds absolutely zero interest to us?
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    May 18, 2008 5:05 AM GMT
    Hunter9 saidwhy does every sports-team related thread die such a quick death? this is an athlete-centric site... were we that humiliated in gym class that team sports holds absolutely zero interest to us?


    Maybe because there's little to say beyond "rah rah" and "go team go"?
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    May 18, 2008 5:11 AM GMT
    rugger this is just for a personal experience I use to work with a few Blacks and tehy would drop the F word all the time. One told me it was easier than calling all whites White MF's Straight whites did not care and Gays would never say anything. The use it as a coward liek the man who would never use the N words in mixed company but when alone it was in every sentance
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    May 18, 2008 5:13 AM GMT
    jprichva said[quote][cite]Hunter9 said[/cite]why does every sports-team related thread die such a quick death? this is an athlete-centric site... were we that humiliated in gym class that team sports holds absolutely zero interest to us?


    Maybe because there's little to say beyond "rah rah" and "go team go"?[/quote]

    Ya know, I don't disagree with you... there are so many more important things to put your energy towards then following sports... but I'm trying to compare apples to apples here... why are gay people so loathe to have an interest in team sports.
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    May 18, 2008 6:13 AM GMT
    Hunter9 said Ya know, I don't disagree with you... there are so many more important things to put your energy towards then following sports... but I'm trying to compare apples to apples here... why are gay people so loathe to have an interest in team sports.


    I actually enjoy watching sports, and there are teams I root for (Michigan football, the Mets). I like watching basketball, though I never have any dogs in that hunt.

    But really, watching is one thing, discussing it another. Not much to say, really. There was a game. The good guys won. Woot. Next.
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    May 30, 2008 7:46 AM GMT
    I actually love watching and playing (if i'm in decent shape) team sports. I'm in college right now, so a big part of the experience is going to all of the football and basketball games. I just had a bad experience with a basketball coach in 9th grade--ever since then, I haven't participated in anything "official."
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    May 30, 2008 9:57 AM GMT
    That is truly sad that Kevin Garnett was so ignorant and/or lax w/ his intolerance by mouthing such bullshit..
    You'd think that being in the spotlight he'd have more of a brain...
    I REALLY hate to say it, but it's not too surprising hearing this come out of Boston. One thing I've always noticed growing up there was that legislation may be liberal but the general populous (especially the working class -Mostly irish/catholic) are VERY intolerant towards GLBT individuals.
    Truly sad.