Bye Bye HP - Meg Whitman becomes CEO of HP

  • metta

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    Sep 23, 2011 7:23 AM GMT
    Bye Bye HP - Meg Whitman becomes CEO of HP


    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/09/23/MN291L895L.DTL
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    Sep 23, 2011 7:28 AM GMT
    The decision to hire Meg Whitman to pull H.P. out of the current slump was brilliant. How fortunate for H.P. to be able to get her. I'd rather have had her as our governor, instead of the dismal flop we are now stuck with (for a second time). Congrats H.P. You're future is bright once again. Dave and Bill would be roundly pleased.
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    Sep 23, 2011 1:38 PM GMT
    Or as Ike found out, so is the transition from military to governing.
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    Sep 23, 2011 1:59 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    CAJock753 saidThe decision to hire Meg Whitman to pull H.P. out of the current slump was brilliant. How fortunate for H.P. to be able to get her. I'd rather have had her as our governor, instead of the dismal flop we are now stuck with (for a second time). Congrats H.P. You're future is bright once again. Dave and Bill would be roundly pleased.

    She certainly was a competent CEO at ebay. And unlike Fiorina, she had genuine accomplishments.

    She would have been a world-class disaster as a governor, so---seeing as you'll never know how bad she'd have been---you're free to go on imagining that the skills or a CEO are the same as the skills necessary for a good governor. In fact, they are rarely the same, and good businesspeople have usually been terrible at governance (like Rick Scott in Florida right now) because they come into office and think they can bark orders and everyone will jump, just as they used to in the corporate world.

    Politics is about compromise among interests. Business is not.


    I highly disagree that Meg Whitman would not have been a good governor. First off, California has made a horrible mistake with letting Brown in again. He was caught on tape admitting he lied in the campaign when he claimed he had a "plan" for California. He admitted he did NOT have a plan. He didn't know he was being taped when he snickered that he had lied to get elected. He was also a disaster in the 70's and I haven't the time here to recite all the mistakes he made then. Meg on the other hand is and always was a fair, even handed, brilliant (many say) business woman. No barking orders. Instead, I'm told Meg had a way of being a peace maker, and bringing all kinds of bright minds to the table (so to speak) to come up with solutions and ideas. Yes, a business woman (or man) is just exactly what is needed in this economy - for California and for the US. I agree that some sort of dictator type barking orders is not what we need. By all accounts, that is not Meg Whitman's style. What a shame we've ended up with a gravy trainer who is not getting the job done in CA

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    Sep 23, 2011 2:28 PM GMT
    We are trying to separate business and government...not help keep them together.

    Meg Whitman wasn't a supporter of civil rights either, as far as everything I've read...so how can you say she was "fair"?

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    Sep 23, 2011 2:49 PM GMT
    HRC gave HP a 100% http://www.hrc.org/issues/workplace/organization_profile.asp?organization_id=1422&search_id=1&search_type=Quick


    I give her a couple months before she tries to gut that rating. It's too bad. I like my HP, but the nickel or so that would go into the cunt's pocket is driving me back over to Dell when I replace it this year.

    I think she's actually more interested in recovering money she lost in the campaign than anything else. She'll stay put until she feels she has enough paper stacked to offset another run at some kind of political office.
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    Sep 23, 2011 3:56 PM GMT
    jprichva said, "Businesspeople don't know about compromise, it's never been part of what made them successful. History is full of examples of businesspeople who have totally fucked up as politicians for this exact reason."

    BC under Gordon Campbell is a perfect example of this.
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    Sep 23, 2011 4:12 PM GMT
    This was just a move by HP's board to soothe jittery investors. Stick some celebrity in the chair and watch everyone become distracted from the serious blunders made over the last few months.
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    Sep 23, 2011 4:20 PM GMT
    This was a brilliant move by HP. Whitman did a great job at Ebay. Notice how the stock price took off after this decision was announced.
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    Sep 24, 2011 8:24 PM GMT
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis was a brilliant move by HP. Whitman did a great job at Ebay. Notice how the stock price took off after this decision was announced.


    you are being sarcastic right? HP stocks are at a new low...
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    Sep 24, 2011 8:29 PM GMT
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    Sep 24, 2011 8:32 PM GMT
    bostonrower88 said
    CHRISTOPHER34 saidThis was a brilliant move by HP. Whitman did a great job at Ebay. Notice how the stock price took off after this decision was announced.


    you are being sarcastic right? HP stocks are at a new low...


    Yes they are now, but most of the stock market has been down the last two days. In the long run HP will have made the right decision though.
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    Sep 24, 2011 8:49 PM GMT
    jprichva saidShe certainly is a train wreck as a politician, but by the accounts I've read she was a good CEO for ebay.

    The selfish question for me is whether she'll reverse HP's decision to abandon hardware for software & business services only. I like HP home printers, and wonder where I go for my next one.

    eBay is quite a different animal than HP has always been.

    "But some analysts are already saying that her experience at consumer-oriented companies such as eBay, Procter & Gamble and Hasbro may leave her ill equipped to run HP's business-computing divisions."

    One good thing though: if she runs HP into the ground, as experts are beginning to predict, it should end her right-wing political aspirations once and for all. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 24, 2011 9:10 PM GMT
    I don't see what the problem is with hiring Meg Whitman to run HP. The woman has a proven track record and is highly capable. Companies do not make decisions like this lightly, and I trust they know exactly what they are doing in hiring her.
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    Sep 24, 2011 9:32 PM GMT
    Anyone who says Politics is about compromise and business isn't, doesn't know JACK SHIT about business. Of course business is about compromise! If you run a company like I do, your constituents are your shareholders, directors, executives and employees....not to mention your customers.

    A business is not a dictatorship. It's about delegating and personal responsibility...unlike gov't and gov't jobs.

    there are competing interests and keeping them all in line while making money is a MUCH more difficult job than governing anything.

    The problem with gov't is - everyone who works in gov't thinks they can waste time and money with no consequence. If gov't was run more like a business, we wouldn't have all this waste.

    As for Meg Whitman - she'd be far better than this regular old ass political baboon we have now. Jerry Brown is a joke. What has he done so far? NOTHING.

    Social policy has no place in politics. Let's get concerned about how to turn this state around. Without a good economy and a nice place to call home, who really gives a crap about anything else? People are way more open-minded when they're pocket books are economically stable. That's a fact.
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    Sep 24, 2011 9:40 PM GMT
    CHRISTOPHER34 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidI don't see what the problem is with hiring Meg Whitman to run HP. The woman has a proven track record and is highly capable. Companies do not make decisions like this lightly, and I trust they know exactly what they are doing in hiring her.


    I dont have a business degree so I'm one of the last people who should say who should run what, but from what I have read about Whitman, she is highly qualified to run HP. On the other hand I refuse to buy HP computers as they are all junk compared to Toshiba or Apple. Its the tonor cartridges that make all the money.



    I agree. I'm a MAC guy and if I never have to use another HP computer as long as I live it will be just fine with me.
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    Sep 25, 2011 2:46 AM GMT
    jprichva said
    CAJock753 saidThe decision to hire Meg Whitman to pull H.P. out of the current slump was brilliant. How fortunate for H.P. to be able to get her. I'd rather have had her as our governor, instead of the dismal flop we are now stuck with (for a second time). Congrats H.P. You're future is bright once again. Dave and Bill would be roundly pleased.

    She certainly was a competent CEO at ebay. And unlike Fiorina, she had genuine accomplishments.

    She would have been a world-class disaster as a governor, so---seeing as you'll never know how bad she'd have been---you're free to go on imagining that the skills or a CEO are the same as the skills necessary for a good governor. In fact, they are rarely the same, and good businesspeople have usually been terrible at governance (like Rick Scott in Florida right now) because they come into office and think they can bark orders and everyone will jump, just as they used to in the corporate world.

    Politics is about compromise among interests. Business is not.


    Thank you! Rick Scott has been not only a disaster, but a total epic fail dunderhead as governor...and he has had the job for......8 months!

    And 90 days into his term, he already has opposition for 2014...and it's another Republican! That is how bad the man is.

    The jury is out on Meg Whitman bringing back HP. I say she won't do it. And that is keeping the politics out of it. Apple and Dell eat HP's lunch now...
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    Sep 25, 2011 3:47 AM GMT
    Bye bye Elizabeth Warren - she lied about the money the government paid her - her campaign reported $64,000 - it was just revealed that it was more than $190,000.

    "Populist," my ass.

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    Sep 25, 2011 4:03 AM GMT
    LOLWUT? Whitman is/was a failure as a CEO. Why do you think she doesn't work at ebay anymore? She took that company down a few notches while she was at the helm. They should have kicked her to the curb way earlier.

    Anyways, HP is a sinking ship. They should pull out of the consumer channel and stick with enterprise products/services.
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    Sep 25, 2011 4:06 AM GMT
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    JackNWNJ saidBye bye Elizabeth Warren

    I know the thought that she might fail makes you cum, but this is (once again) much fake outrage about nothing, And it won't derail her one bit.


    She's already being derailed. I wondered why Scott Brown hasn't said anything about her. Now I know - the reason is that when someone is self-immolating, you back off and let it happen.

    Her little speech that "went viral" has already been torn to shreds beyond recognition. This latest financial clusterfuck is the beginning of the end for her.

    And it's not even Sunday yet...
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    Sep 25, 2011 1:54 PM GMT
    xrichx saidLOLWUT? Whitman is/was a failure as a CEO. Why do you think she doesn't work at ebay anymore? She took that company down a few notches while she was at the helm. They should have kicked her to the curb way earlier.

    Anyways, HP is a sinking ship. They should pull out of the consumer channel and stick with enterprise products/services.


    Your joking right?? Whitman was AWESOME running Ebay. Revenues more than doubled and the number of employees that were hired skyrocketed.

    As far as HP being a sinking ship, I totally agree. There computers are junk, but Whitman is the best candidate to turn that around.
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    Sep 25, 2011 2:07 PM GMT
    My trusty HP Pavilion has pumped out books, websites, two award-winning videos (one made it on PBS) and several thousand DVD discs. It's paid for itself about 100,000 times what I paid for it.

    Whoever said HP computers are crap needs to pull that Apple stem out of their ass.
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    Sep 26, 2011 11:27 PM GMT
    My HP computers and printers are fine, and so are those of my friends. I worked there in marketing communications right out of college and was happy there for years before going to pharmaceutical marketing. We all thought we were the luckiest people - those of us who worked there. The work, the conditions, the compensation and benefits were the top in the industry. I know things went south after I left - especially the Fiorina years. People I talk with who work in venture cap or at H.P. are excited and hopeful about Whitman taking the top position at H.P. We'll see how it goes.

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    Sep 27, 2011 12:40 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
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    Yeah, things are so bad here in Florida... it's astonishing how bad things have gotten in the past 8 months... it's a calamity never before seen in modern times... everyone hates Rick Scott... each citizen of Florida is considering a run for Governor... nobody has insurance anymore... there's long lines at grocery stores and even after waiting 8 hours in line, there's no guarantee there will be any bread left... many of the bridges on state highways have collapsed... lives have been lost... Rick Scott and his cronies at "Big Sugar" are poisoning all the drinking water in the state...

    Now SB, you're not going to seriously pretend he's popular in Florida, are you?
    All of your extravagant hyperbole aside, I have in my very hand a signed affidavit from his mother saying that even she doesn't like him anymore. I heard his dog ran away too.



    I'm not talking about popular... I was replying to another RJ member's assertion that Scott has been "a disaster" for Florida.

    I see no evidence of said disaster.


    You know, you really can see better if you take the blinders off....Voter disenfranchisement is not a disaster? No pay raises for teachers is not a disaster? No hope for an economy that is in the tank, is that not a disaster? Oh, and I also heard Miami is lagging behind other large cities in turning around their economy.....Surprised? I was.

    Then can you explain why our Secretary of Agriculture, Adam Putnam, has all but announced he is running for governor in 2014? And here is another news item I heard last week....our friend Charlie Crist might make a run in 2014...as a Democrat! Charlie finally saw what the "R's" are made of.......
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    Sep 27, 2011 12:57 AM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI don't see what the problem is with hiring Meg Whitman to run HP. The woman has a proven track record and is highly capable. Companies do not make decisions like this lightly, and I trust they know exactly what they are doing in hiring her.


    The problem is the mess she's taking over:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/business/voting-to-hire-a-chief-without-meeting-him.html?_r=2&pagewanted=2&ref=business