SmartCar Saves Gas?? I'd Rather Save My Ass!!

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    Sep 23, 2011 12:02 PM GMT
    So, SmartCar's are supposed to save us gas...well, I'd rather take my chances between 2 semis in my F250 than a SmartCan!

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    Sep 23, 2011 1:23 PM GMT
    http://www.snopes.com/photos/accident/smallcar.asp

    From snopes.. The car in the middle of the accident was a Ford SUV
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    Sep 23, 2011 1:48 PM GMT
    Well, you have a point, I think, even though the pic accident is not involving a Smartcar.

    A co-worker of Bill's got in an accident with his Smartcar. They are so light, when his was hit it bounced up in the air into oncoming traffic, got hit there, flew the other way and smacked into a pole. The guy's in very rough shape. Apparently, according to the powers that be that did inspections of the crash, a regular vehicle wouldn't have done that as the speed of impact wasn't hard enough.

    Though I think they're a great idea, I wonder where all the electricity will come from to charge up millions and millions of smartcars?

    -Doug
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    Sep 23, 2011 1:56 PM GMT
    Dumbest cars ever.
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    Sep 23, 2011 2:02 PM GMT
    Always remember to have the largest car on the road to reduce the likelihood of you dying in an accident. If it's heavy enough you won't even notice the bump when you run over some kid you couldn't see.

    Doug: Internal combustion engines are terribly inefficient. In a couple of years it'll be cheaper to burn the oil in a power plant and then use the electricity in cars.
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    Sep 23, 2011 2:03 PM GMT
    It actually didn't do poorly in crash tests. Not the best, but not the worst.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJHpUO-S0i8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz-s1sIoLhU&feature=related
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    Sep 23, 2011 2:05 PM GMT
    I'd feel safer in a soda can than a smart car
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    Sep 23, 2011 2:05 PM GMT
    pre_mortem saidAlways remember to have the largest car on the road to reduce the likelihood of you dying in an accident. If it's heavy enough you won't even notice the bump when you run over some kid you couldn't see.

    Doug: Internal combustion engines are terribly inefficient. In a couple of years it'll be cheaper to burn the oil in a power plant and then use the electricity in cars.



    I was thinking that, but couldn't find much to back me up. I just wonder if there will be a surge in coal burning plants, which is pretty nasty.
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    Sep 23, 2011 2:09 PM GMT
    Its not even a safety issue. They are too small. the mileage they get doesnt justify the size and lack of utility and they are expensive. They make sense as city cars in europe with very narrow streets and no parking but are not practical for the US market. They are a "statement" car for people who dont know anything about cars.
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    Sep 23, 2011 2:29 PM GMT
    I'll keep mine. A friend of mine got in an accident with his. He was blindsided at an intersection by someone in a ford Taurus who didn't see that they had a red light. The smartcar was damaged and my friend walked away and had to wait several weeks, for the repairs to be done, but the Taurus was totaled. I actually saw the aftermath of the accident less than 10 minutes after it happened.
    The rate of accidents in smartcars isn't as high as many other cars and it's frame structure is stronger than most.
    It isn't going be defeat the laws of physics and more than a Hummer would however. They are still far safer than most other small cars (both in structural integrity, and historical data on accidents/damage/injury). I've driven it from south central CT to Atlanta and back without a problem.
    Granted I've had mine for 3 1/2 years and I'm very happy with the mileage without the overhead of dealing with a battery system of a hybrid. I still get 38-39 mpg per tank average (and that's with the wonderful Silicon Valley rush hour 'stop and go' everyday), and I've no problem taking it on the highway. There are lots of other pluses to it that I won't enumerate here even though many of those advantages are unique.

    If you don't want one, fine. Don't buy one. But base your review on facts and not fabrications and suppositions. People seem to have this misguided idea that no one gets injured in big cars when, in fact, the accident rate is higher in 4-wheel drive/SUV's than in regular sedans. The illusion of safety is just that. I'm amazed at the amount of people who buy big vehicles believing that it makes them somehow exempt from the laws of physics.

    Lastly, the smartcar is not a hybrid or electric vehicle. Although they just introduced an all electric one in the past few months. It has limited distance and as is typical of electric and hybrid cars, these a big premium on the price of the car, so it's not for me.

    As for size, the two of us often travel around with the dog in the back and it's far roomier inside than many other cars. You can be 6'3" and weight 275 and sit comfortably without your head hitting the ceiling or feeling like your in a coffin as in some much larger cars.
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    Sep 23, 2011 2:54 PM GMT
    Dallasfan824 saidIts not even a safety issue. They are too small. the mileage they get doesnt justify the size and lack of utility and they are expensive. They make sense as city cars in europe with very narrow streets and no parking but are not practical for the US market. They are a "statement" car for people who dont know anything about cars.


    As a smart car owner, $15,000 isn't expensive, fully featured. As far as utility, most of the time it's just me in the car. Groceries, luggage, passenger...all fit just fine. Why do I need a large air shell?

    Being gay means not having a wife, 3 toddlers and a baby seat.

    As far as safety, it's not rated badly. And, uh, I check my mirrors a lot. Don't text or call while driving. People honk at me all the time (oh, hi there little yellow car!), and the cab is taller than sedans.

    About making a "statement". That's a line of bullshit. Every fucking car is a statement. Oh, except yours, which was a clinical decision based upon rankings from armies of concerned technicians.

    Oh, and as my 15th car, I do know a thing or two about cars. So, may I say as gently as I can, fuck you.
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    Sep 23, 2011 3:02 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    Dallasfan824 saidIts not even a safety issue. They are too small. the mileage they get doesnt justify the size and lack of utility and they are expensive. They make sense as city cars in europe with very narrow streets and no parking but are not practical for the US market. They are a "statement" car for people who dont know anything about cars.


    As a smart car owner, $15,000 isn't expensive, fully featured. As far as utility, most of the time it's just me in the car. Groceries, luggage, passenger...all fit just fine. Why do I need a large air shell?

    Being gay means not having a wife, 3 toddlers and a baby seat.

    As far as safety, it's not rated badly. And, uh, I check my mirrors a lot. Don't text or call while driving. People honk at me all the time (oh, hi there little yellow car!), and the cab is taller than sedans.

    About making a "statement". That's a line of bullshit. Every fucking car is a statement. Oh, except yours, which was a clinical decision based upon rankings from armies of concerned technicians.

    Oh, and as my 15th car, I do know a thing or two about cars. So, may I say as gently as I can, fuck you.


    You sure can fucktard.
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    Sep 23, 2011 3:13 PM GMT
    Dallasfan824 said
    mickeytopogigio said
    Dallasfan824 saidIts not even a safety issue. They are too small. the mileage they get doesnt justify the size and lack of utility and they are expensive. They make sense as city cars in europe with very narrow streets and no parking but are not practical for the US market. They are a "statement" car for people who dont know anything about cars.


    As a smart car owner, $15,000 isn't expensive, fully featured. As far as utility, most of the time it's just me in the car. Groceries, luggage, passenger...all fit just fine. Why do I need a large air shell?

    Being gay means not having a wife, 3 toddlers and a baby seat.

    As far as safety, it's not rated badly. And, uh, I check my mirrors a lot. Don't text or call while driving. People honk at me all the time (oh, hi there little yellow car!), and the cab is taller than sedans.

    About making a "statement". That's a line of bullshit. Every fucking car is a statement. Oh, except yours, which was a clinical decision based upon rankings from armies of concerned technicians.

    Oh, and as my 15th car, I do know a thing or two about cars. So, may I say as gently as I can, fuck you.weight.

    You sure can fucktard.
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    Sep 23, 2011 3:34 PM GMT
    StudlyScrewRite saidSo, SmartCar's are supposed to save us gas...well, I'd rather take my chances between 2 semis in my F250 than a SmartCan!



    It's amazing the extent to which people will make shit up just because they don't like the way a product looks. If you don't like them, don't buy one. And if you're going to post bullshit supporting your point of view, at least be bright enough to come up with something that can't be disproved in 30 keystrokes or less. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 23, 2011 3:40 PM GMT
    I think they should rename it to FartCar, since farting in it with the windows up would be like a Dutch Oven for the passengers.
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    Sep 23, 2011 3:43 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI think they should rename it to FartCar, since farting in it with the windows up would be like a Dutch Oven for the passengers.
    Oh no You DIDNT just say that did you? LMAO
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    Sep 23, 2011 3:57 PM GMT
    regards power sources that are more efficient than internal combustion engines. the military is moving towards electric drives powered by an onboard diesel generator. any engineers here that can answer why this isn't practical for automobiles? using a gasoline powered turbine to generate electricity onboard? still using fuel, but, the internal comustion engine loses energy just getting the pushrods moving before power is sent to the wheels. locomotives have used this principal for decades, diesel electric trains.
    smart cars are a move in the right direction, using less oil, but, to meet U.S. safety and emssions standards the car doesn't get the mileage it could. its time to rethink the automobile, we can either do it here domestically, or wait for someone else to do it, my vote, put americans to work building them...
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    Sep 23, 2011 4:05 PM GMT
    StudlyScrewRite saidSo, SmartCar's are supposed to save us gas...well, I'd rather take my chances between 2 semis in my F250 than a SmartCan!

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    These cars serve a practical purpose inside of big cities where space is limited. I would rather be in an F250 or at least my Escape while traveling at highway speeds.
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    Sep 23, 2011 4:30 PM GMT
    mustangd saidregards power sources that are more efficient than internal combustion engines. the military is moving towards electric drives powered by an onboard diesel generator. any engineers here that can answer why this isn't practical for automobiles? using a gasoline powered turbine to generate electricity onboard? still using fuel, but, the internal comustion engine loses energy just getting the pushrods moving before power is sent to the wheels. locomotives have used this principal for decades, diesel electric trains.
    smart cars are a move in the right direction, using less oil, but, to meet U.S. safety and emssions standards the car doesn't get the mileage it could. its time to rethink the automobile, we can either do it here domestically, or wait for someone else to do it, my vote, put americans to work building them...



    ^ this is interesting.

    I'm not exactly sure why, but I think it has something to do with the scale of the application. It works in trains and submarines, and we could probably get it to work in large trucks.

    Thinking about it, it should work in cars. If we already have hybrid cars which essentially have 2 engines, it's a relatively simple re-wiring.

    I think we don't have them cause the American consumer wouldn't understand it and therefore not buy it. Calculations on energy transfer are lost on consumers who feel cheap gas is a national entitlement and don't care about energy usage to begin with.
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    Sep 23, 2011 4:48 PM GMT
    fake fake fake.
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    Sep 23, 2011 4:57 PM GMT
    thenes saidfake fake fake.


    Uhm....I have seen this happen several times doing insurance claims. Its very hard to extract a body from an accident like this one.
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    Sep 23, 2011 5:10 PM GMT
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    paulflexes saidI think they should rename it to FartCar, since farting in it with the windows up would be like a Dutch Oven for the passengers.
    Oh no You DIDNT just say that did you? LMAO
    No, I typed it. But I might say it at work later if the dude who has one is there. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 23, 2011 7:58 PM GMT
    You're pretty safe in an SUV.. until you get hit by another SUV. icon_lol.gif

    Best tip for small car drivers is to stay as far away from SUVs and other large vehicles. Cuz most of them simply don't give a fuck.
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    Sep 23, 2011 8:01 PM GMT
    smart cars are for old ladies.... Real men drive big ass hoinkin 4x4's.... oh, and Cadillacs'.... lol.
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    Sep 23, 2011 8:21 PM GMT
    The_Guerrilla_Sodomite said
    StudlyScrewRite saidSo, SmartCar's are supposed to save us gas...well, I'd rather take my chances between 2 semis in my F250 than a SmartCan!



    It's amazing the extent to which people will make shit up just because they don't like the way a product looks. If you don't like them, don't buy one. And if you're going to post bullshit supporting your point of view, at least be bright enough to come up with something that can't be disproved in 30 keystrokes or less. icon_rolleyes.gif


    I like this. I'd like it even if I wasn't a bit smitten with the poster.


    I have an opinion that I put very little thought into and no one will like it but here it is anyway:
    The answer is MORE smartcars! If everyone is in them, the accidents will be proportionally smaller because all of the cars will have a relatively equal mass.


    I wish they'd make some small car that had bike pedals in it so part of the energy would come from physical exercise. Maybe it would be very little, but if the whole family pitched in.. well maybe you'd save a buck.