Morgan Freeman: Tea Party Is Racist, They're Out To Get Obama

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 23, 2011 7:20 PM GMT
    I came across this, and I've been saying this for awhile now. I know this is going to start some stuff but I think it will interesting to read peoples view points.
    And Go!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/23/morgan-freeman-tea-party-racist_n_978123.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
  • tallchris

    Posts: 121

    Sep 23, 2011 7:39 PM GMT
    I can't say whether they are racists but it wouldn't surprise me at all as they seem very stupid.

    The only good thing about the tea party is that it is clearly dragging the Republicans to the right, away from the centre from which elections are generally won. Whilst politicians can be nimble and cynical enough to change tack after becoming official candidates of their party, in order to fight the election, there's a gulf (oh please tell me I'm right) between the tea party and the broad electorate.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 23, 2011 7:45 PM GMT
    tallchris saidI can't say whether they are racists but it wouldn't surprise me at all as they seem very stupid.

    The only good thing about the tea party is that it is clearly dragging the Republicans to the right, away from the centre from which elections are generally won. Whilst politicians can be nimble and cynical enough to change tack after becoming official candidates of their party, in order to fight the election, there's a gulf (oh please tell me I'm right) between the tea party and the broad electorate.



    True and I hope so as well.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 24, 2011 3:42 AM GMT
    It was always ludicrous to suggest that a movement as large as the tea party would be born from hatred for Obama’s skin color rather than disapproval of his policies. And the movement is large: Near-monthly polling by CBS News and the New York Times since April 2010 finds that, at any given time, between one-fifth and one-third of Americans say they support the tea party (see page 10 of the PDF at the link).

    It would be foolish to say that not a single, solitary tea partyer anywhere in America is a bigot. In any discussion involving such large numbers, it’s almost impossible to say there’s zero of anything (besides net U.S. job creation in August, that is).

    But it is just as foolish to believe that so many Americans not only would support a group that was fundamentally racist but would, in our politically correct era, admit as much to a stranger.


    http://blogs.ajc.com/kyle-wingfield/2011/09/08/lefts-criticisms-of-obama-blunt-charges-of-tea-party-racism/

    This guy actually makes sense (the comments section is full of the most rabid Republicans). I usually don't agree with him, but I do agree that you can't rule out that there are some racists in the group.
  • CuriousJockAZ

    Posts: 19119

    Sep 24, 2011 3:49 AM GMT
    C_J35 saidI came across this, and I've been saying this for awhile now. I know this is going to start some stuff but I think it will interesting to read peoples view points.
    And Go!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/23/morgan-freeman-tea-party-racist_n_978123.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009



    Just because people are out to get Obama, it doesn't make them racist.
  • creature

    Posts: 5197

    Sep 24, 2011 3:54 AM GMT
    God has spoken.

    morgan-freeman-god.jpg
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 24, 2011 7:50 AM GMT
    I don't know where you all are getting the TBaggers are getting more popular, but all the poles I've seen for months now have them going down in popularity. The only reason they have any popularity at all is the media chose to give them 'air' and 'film exposure'. they've done us no favors that I can account for, except maybe talking too loud and showing their true colors so no one is fooled about where they stand on the issues. They are the ones promoting 'let him die' and 'booing' gays at Repub debates.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 24, 2011 8:18 AM GMT
    realifedad said I don't know where you all are getting the TBaggers are getting more popular, but all the poles I've seen for months now have them going down in popularity. The only reason they have any popularity at all is the media chose to give them 'air' and 'film exposure'. they've done us no favors that I can account for, except maybe talking too loud and showing their true colors so no one is fooled about where they stand on the issues. They are the ones promoting 'let him die' and 'booing' gays at Repub debates.


    They? As in two or three? Let me ask you something - do you think the 47 yr old in the bar making those wretched comments to Bristol represents all gays? OK. Is it possible that the two or three making those comments at the last two republican debates DON'T represent all T-Partiers?

    Thanks.
  • GQjock

    Posts: 11649

    Sep 24, 2011 9:44 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    realifedad said I don't know where you all are getting the TBaggers are getting more popular, but all the poles I've seen for months now have them going down in popularity. The only reason they have any popularity at all is the media chose to give them 'air' and 'film exposure'. they've done us no favors that I can account for, except maybe talking too loud and showing their true colors so no one is fooled about where they stand on the issues. They are the ones promoting 'let him die' and 'booing' gays at Repub debates.


    They? As in two or three? Let me ask you something - do you think the 47 yr old in the bar making those wretched comments to Bristol represents all gays? OK. Is it possible that the two or three making those comments at the last two republican debates DON'T represent all T-Partiers?

    Thanks.


    Lemme put it another way and lets see if you can grasp the concept now

    If you're a racist?
    What group best suits your needs ........... ?

    Ya think it might be the group where "SOME" people say he was born in Kenya?
    or do ya think it might be the same group where "SOME" people think he's a Muslim?

    Nah .... too much of a stretch ... huh? icon_rolleyes.gif LOL
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 24, 2011 8:12 PM GMT
    I thought they were out to get Obama out, and help put America back on track; many hate the white half of him too.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 24, 2011 11:44 PM GMT
    I wondered how herman Cain won the Florida straw poll today by better than a 2 - 1 margin over Perry. Its those tea party racists. I knew some of you guys were on to something.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 24, 2011 11:52 PM GMT
    pattison saidI thought they were out to get Obama out, and help put America back on track; many hate the white half of him too.


    We don't hate. We disagree.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 24, 2011 11:53 PM GMT
    It may be true, but that's not what he said.

    He said that Mitch McConnell stating that his only goal was making sure Obama does not get re-elected -- as opposed to getting the country on track -- is a racist thing.

    I don't know that I agree with him. If you believed that Obama's policies are harmful for the country, then you'd agree that replacing him with someone else is putting the country on the right track.
  • creature

    Posts: 5197

    Sep 25, 2011 12:05 AM GMT
    TroyAthlete saidIt may be true, but that's not what he said.

    He said that Mitch McConnell stating that his only goal was making sure Obama does not get re-elected -- as opposed to getting the country on track -- is a racist thing.

    I don't know that I agree with him. If you believed that Obama's policies are harmful for the country, then you'd agree that replacing him with someone else is putting the country on the right track.


    McConnell's remark was likely partisan talk, and may or may not have been racially tinged. Did McConnell make a similar remark for Bush? Probably not. Even though what President Obama was a financial mess left by the Bush administration.

    And it is more probable that his comment is about obstructing any bill that would make President Obama look good, therefore undermining his chance at re-election. After all, you have had the Republicans opposing policies that they once supported because a Democrat has taken office.

    McConnell is not about country first. He is notoriously about party first.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 25, 2011 12:09 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidI wondered how herman Cain won the Florida straw poll today by better than a 2 - 1 margin over Perry. Its those tea party racists. I knew some of you guys were on to something.
    You see.. I see this completely different than you do.. what I see about Mr Cain winning the poll today here in Florida is that the GOP is SO fractured, it is in SERIOUS trouble. Mr Cain isnt on his social highhorse... and I think today the GOP got a message loud and clear.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 25, 2011 12:10 AM GMT
    creature said

    McConnell is not about country first. He is notoriously about party first.
    And there is absolutely NO spinning of that.. Cannot be done period.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 25, 2011 12:15 AM GMT
    Funny, I just left the gym a while ago and I worked out with two tea partiers today - a Cain and a bachmann fan. All while trying to watch the OSU game. Made for an interesting discussion. I think I was somewhat convincing that you can support whomever you want, but they have to be able to win in november, which mean you need about 60% of the independents. Bachmann wont be able to do that. Both very reasonable guys though. Fun day.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 25, 2011 12:21 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    freedomisntfree saidI wondered how herman Cain won the Florida straw poll today by better than a 2 - 1 margin over Perry. Its those tea party racists. I knew some of you guys were on to something.
    You see.. I see this completely different than you do.. what I see about Mr Cain winning the poll today here in Florida is that the GOP is SO fractured, it is in SERIOUS trouble. Mr Cain isnt on his social highhorse... and I think today the GOP got a message loud and clear.


    Referring to my previous post regarding the guys I worked out with - they both thought that its over for Perry after the performance Thursday night plus his performance in the last two debates. So yea the situation is very fluid just like it was for the democrats in 2008. I think it will all come together in time. It is all very interesting to watch though.
  • creature

    Posts: 5197

    Sep 25, 2011 12:36 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    creature said
    McConnell's remark was likely partisan talk, and may or may not have been racially tinged. Did McConnell make a similar remark for Bush? Probably not. Even though what President Obama was a financial mess left by the Bush administration.


    Of course McConnell wouldn't say such a thing about Bush - just like Reid or Pelosi or Schumer would never say such a thing about Obama.

    As for the "financial mess left by Bush" - I actually believe it was the "financial mess caused by the Democrats" that were the cause of the recession.


    creature said
    And it is more probable that his comment is about obstructing any bill that would make President Obama look good, therefore undermining his chance at re-election. After all, you have had the Republicans opposing policies that they once supported because a Democrat has taken office.


    Take a look at Schumer's record of obstructing Federal judge nominees during the Bush years. Look at Harry Reid's latest "we need $6 billion in FEMA funds and no cuts to offset" (uh, whatever happened to Pay-Go?). In a $4,000 billion Federal budget, they can't come up with $3 billion in cuts???

    Both sides play far too much "political football" and that is a huge reason why the country is such a mess today.




    creature said
    McConnell is not about country first. He is notoriously about party first.


    All Washington politicians in leadership positions are about "party first" if you choose to put it in those words.


    I agree with your comment about political football. Even the President has admitted he was wrong for doing so regarding raising the debt limit when he was a Senator.

    When you have one chamber dominated by one party and the other chamber dominated by another, it wastes time and looks pathetic to attempt to pass a bill that you know doesn't have the slightest chance. Concessions need to be made. And if the President is issuing a veto threat, that is something to also consider.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 25, 2011 9:27 PM GMT
    All I will say is that incessantly repeating a lie doesn't render it any less false.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 25, 2011 10:36 PM GMT
    *Warning a little long but interesting read"

    Let me start off by saying Thank you guys for your input on this. I was curious how the RJ community would view, as we are very diverse I knew there would be a few TPers in here and I want to hear their take on this.
    I do not think that the entire Tea Party is racist, that would be absurd for one to think that. I do think however that it has a strong racist/bigoted backing...and I quote
    " Black conservatives have expressed mixed feelings about the Tea Party's inclusiveness and concerns about racism. Brandon Brice, a primary black speaker at a tax-day Tea Party rally, said he was worried about the movement, noting that, "It's strayed away from the message of wasteful spending and Washington not listening to its constituents, and it's become more of this rally of hate." Lenny McAllister, a Republican commentator, author and Tea Party supporter, said he has seen racism within the movement and has confronted it by approaching people with racially derogatory signs of President Obama and asking them to take the signs down. Like Brice, McAllister thinks leaders of the Tea Party movement must not ignore the issue. McAllister told The Washington Post, "The people are speaking up and becoming more educated on the issues, but you have fringe elements that are defining this good thing with their negative, hateful behavior." He said the movement is more diverse than news clips show, commenting that "There is this perception that these are all old, white racists and that's not the case."[248] Jean Howard-Hill, leader of the National Republican African American Caucus, wrote that, "Any movement which cannot openly denounce racism, calling it out as wrong troubles me. To attack President Obama on his policy is one thing, but to do so on his race or some hysterical pretext of socialism is yet another."[248] During an interview on NPR with Michel Martin, McAllister and columnist Cynthia Tucker discussed racism and the Tea Parties; Tucker wrote about the interview, concluding that McAllister's take on racism was that he'd seen enough racist signs at other Tea Party gatherings to know that racism is associated with the movement.[249]"

    Here is the link from which that came.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement#Racial_issues

    I should not say racist. I should say they have a lot of bigots... heres a little more from the same link.

    "On March 20, 2010, during a rally at the United States Capitol in Washington, D.C. before the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Bill was voted on, several black lawmakers said that demonstrators shouted "nigger" at them.[266][267] Congressman Emanuel Cleaver was spat upon, although it is unclear if this was deliberate, and said he heard the slurs. Congressman Barney Frank, who is gay, was called a "faggot".[266][268] Representative André Carson said that while walking with John Lewis and his chief of staff from the Cannon building, amid chants of "kill the bill", he heard the "n-word at least 15 times". Carson said he heard it coming from different places in the crowd, and one man "just rattled it off several times".[269][270] Carson quoted Lewis as saying, "You know, this reminds me of a different time."[269] Heath Shuler, a Democratic U.S. representative from North Carolina commented on the tenor of the protests, saying: "It was the most horrible display of protesting I have ever seen in my life." He also confirmed hearing the slur against Frank.[271][272]
    While attending the health care rally in Washington, D.C., on March 21, 2010, Springboro, Ohio Tea Party founder Sonny Thomas posted a racial slur on the Springboro Tea Party Twitter webpage he managed. Directed specifically at the Hispanic community, it stated "Illegals everywhere today! So many spics makes me feel like a speck. Grrr. Wheres my gun!?" On April 14, 2010, according to CNN anchor Rick Sanchez, when CNN contacted Thomas to ask for an explanation, Thomas initially said he was making a reference to a Bee Gee's song. Thomas posted the following on the Springboro Tea Party website, "I take full responsibility for the action and it was not my intention to be insensitive. While it is never appropriate to make such a facetious comment, I hope that we can put this issue behind us for the greater good."[273][274] The posting triggered cancellations by several local and statewide political candidates and leaders scheduled to speak at a Springboro Tea Party rally on April 17. An Ohio Republican state Sen. Shannon Jones boycotted the rally and stated, "I don't think it says anything about the movement per se". A Dayton Tea Party official, Rob Scott, claimed that the posts were "classless" and did not represent the national Tea Party movement as a whole.[275][276]"
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 25, 2011 11:49 PM GMT
    creature said
    TroyAthlete saidIt may be true, but that's not what he said.

    He said that Mitch McConnell stating that his only goal was making sure Obama does not get re-elected -- as opposed to getting the country on track -- is a racist thing.

    I don't know that I agree with him. If you believed that Obama's policies are harmful for the country, then you'd agree that replacing him with someone else is putting the country on the right track.


    McConnell's remark was likely partisan talk, and may or may not have been racially tinged. Did McConnell make a similar remark for Bush? Probably not. Even though what President Obama was a financial mess left by the Bush administration.

    And it is more probable that his comment is about obstructing any bill that would make President Obama look good, therefore undermining his chance at re-election. After all, you have had the Republicans opposing policies that they once supported because a Democrat has taken office.

    McConnell is not about country first. He is notoriously about party first.


    McConnell keeping silent on policy disagreements with Bush does not mean anything. They're in the same party. Members of the Congressional Black Caucus are on record as saying they won't criticize Obama because he's a black Democrat despite their misgivings with him. And I believe McConnell admitted recently that many Republicans had misgivings about Bush's war policies but kept quiet out of partisan loyalty.

    As to the GOP opposing policies they once supported because Obama now supports them (most especially the Obamneycare mess, which is full of ideas straight out a famous conservative think tank) inherent in that remark is the fact that Democrats now support Bush policies they once supposedly hated: the Bush tax cuts for the rich, the Heritage Foundation written health care "reform," the war spending, the extraordinary rendition, Guantanamo, the debt ceiling raise. I could go on and on.

    Point being all this is typical dishonest partisan crap from Capitol Hill. Not really revealing or surprising.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 25, 2011 11:52 PM GMT
    Thanks for posting that C_J35. Interesting read.

    I see the Tea Party as that fun club that is hot and the happening spot. Everybody goes every weekend, and it started out with good intentions. And then somebody gets shot. People are kinda hesitant to go anymore because it has that stigma of violence.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 26, 2011 12:59 AM GMT
    Balljunkie saidThanks for posting that C_J35. Interesting read.

    I see the Tea Party as that fun club that is hot and the happening spot. Everybody goes every weekend, and it started out with good intentions. And then somebody gets shot. People are kinda hesitant to go anymore because it has that stigma of violence.


    True... good analogy!

  • Sep 29, 2011 3:20 AM GMT
    If you are seriously insinuating that the Tea Party is violent , you are an ostrich with your head in the sand. Have you ever been to a tea party rally ?????? I have , Have you ever been to a Obama rally ?? I have . NEITHER WERE VIOLENT. Though , organized labor sends its "guns" to tea party events as an intimidation , it does not work.