Where the Airbus A380 will fly next

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    Sep 25, 2011 10:26 PM GMT
    http://www.centreforaviation.com/analysis/where-the-airbus-a380-will-fly-next-59245

    A really interesting and informative article on the A380, where it's been in the four years since Singapore Airlines began the first commercial flight, and what the future holds for the A380.

    Some highlights:
    -Singapore Airlines started commercial A380 service in October 2007
    -The next airports to see the A380 will be Rome-Fiumicino, Amsterdam Schiphol, Munich, and Kuala Lampur
    -Over 130 airports, worldwide, are cleared as A380 capable airports
    -JFK and Tokyo are the only airports, currently, to have FOUR A380 operators; runners up include Paris, London, and Hong Kong
    -China Southern Airlines will be the first to open up the A380 on domestic routes, Guangzhou to Beijing and Beijing to Shanghai
    -Air Austral will have the highest seat configuration at around 840 seats
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    Sep 26, 2011 12:41 AM GMT
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    Where will it fly next- probably somewhere not very exotic.

    I think Air France flew theirs to London for staff training.

    I've heard on the forums that other carriers have used them for trunk routes.


    Can the A380 compete with the 787 and 777 ER? That's the billion dollar question?

    Maybe in the future an A380 ER might fly Dallas to Sydney, Sydney to Sao Paolo.

    Wait and see I guess.
  • Aquanerd

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    Sep 26, 2011 1:13 AM GMT
    Korean Air and Air France are expecting to start using the A380 to Atlanta beginning next spring when the new International Concourse opens.
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    Sep 26, 2011 5:24 AM GMT
    Waiting for them to come into Hawaii...we have 747s all the time here, planes are full.
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    Sep 26, 2011 5:30 AM GMT
    The A380 came to KIAD (Washington Dulles) at the beginning of the summer...SO fascinating seeing it in the skies near home.
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    Sep 26, 2011 5:37 AM GMT
    LAX-NRT-SIN is the newest one here with Singapore Airlines. I'm hoping we see one for LAX-ICN with Korean Air, or LAX-DXB on Emirates. Either BA or VS is going to have to get their act together and get one so that we can get LAX-LHR soon!

    I want to fly on one of these before my day is done!!!
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    Sep 26, 2011 5:26 PM GMT
    I have flown the A380 on Lufthansa a few times now in First Class (thanks to a client with deep pockets).

    It's a nice seat, but at the end of the day it's just another big airplane. There's really nothing special about it.

    I am very much looking forward to the 787 with its increased cabin humidity. That's really what fatigues me after long haul flights -- lack of hydration. The tint-able windows look to be a great idea too.

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    Sep 26, 2011 5:28 PM GMT
    The article is inaccurate for SFO. We currently have regular A380 service to Frankfurt via Lufthansa and to Paris via Air France. There's rumblings that we'll get HK via Singapore Airlines next, but no confirmation.

    EDIT: The table is inaccurate, but the route map is correct.

    Any bets as to when the Emirates' showers go the way of the "singles bars" on the upper deck of pre-deregulation 747s?

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    Sep 26, 2011 10:49 PM GMT
    @ Tanlejos: The A380 will undoubtedly be use don heavily traveled trunk routes such as DXB-LHR, CDG-JFK, CDG-NRT, FRA-JFK, and SIN-LHR. A plane of that size, on such routes, can almost always be completely filled with economy and, more importantly, business and first class passengers. In my view, the A380 is such a different type of plane that may not be able to compete with the 787 and 777. The 787, to my knowledge, was designed to operate 'thin routes' such as IAH-LOS and NRT-BOS; routes that would be too big for a 777, much less an A380.

    @ Aquanerd: ATL will be a rather good sized A380 'hub' of sorts with a few Skyteam members already flying the A380, i.e. Air France and Korean Air. At this point, I can't really see any other Skyteam members flying the A380.

    @lgswimr: I'm not sure if any airline will bring the A380 to Hawaii outside of Korean Air (doubtful at this point) and either Japan Airlines (still in deep financial instability) and ANA (content with the 787).

    @Shahdazeh: Air France is the only airline bringing the A380 into IAD at this point but I'm sure that Lufthansa may at some point given the hugh amount of traffic, both VFR and premium, between IAD and FRA. I could also see BA bringing the A380 to IAD when they get theirs.

    @sahem62896: Singapore Airlines just started their A380 LAX service in July, I believe, and it's doing quite well, as would be expected. Korean Air WILL be bringing the A380 to LAX as well very soon; they'd be stupid not too given the insane amount of travel between LAX and ICN. And BA or VS will, no doubt, bring the A380 to LAX because of the massive amount of traffic between LAX and LHR; there are about five or six airlines that offer daily service between LAX and LHR!

    @southbeach1500: You are spot on!

    @SwimBikeRun94: Just like you said, the A380 is just like any other jumbo jet; it's just like when the 747 first entered service in 1970 and the new-fangled extras it had. The 787 will definitely be a game changer; it will allow airlines to open routes that were never possible and bring a whole new level to air travel with all of the cabin improvements.

    @iguanaSF: I thought that A380 service via Air France and Lufthansa was seasonal or only for a short time until they placed the plane back on other routes such as JFK and NRT. I have no doubt that Singapore Airlines will bring the A380 to SFO, via HKG, at some point in the near future. SFO has the market to support such flights, as I'm sure you know.
  • hebrewman

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    Sep 26, 2011 11:02 PM GMT
    while sitting at the 2R jumpseat the other week on our way into our gate at LAX i spotted the 380 from qantas and singapore. sorry, i think it's an ugly airplane. big yes. pretty no. i prefer the shape of the 747. just my opinion.
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    Sep 26, 2011 11:05 PM GMT
    hebrewman saidwhile sitting at the 2R jumpseat the other week on our way into our gate at LAX i spotted the 380 from qantas and singapore. sorry, i think it's an ugly airplane. big yes. pretty no. i prefer the shape of the 747. just my opinion.


    I agree. It has grown on me since it started flying commercially I'll admit. But, even though it is a strange looking plane, it's still awesome to see it in person.
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    Sep 27, 2011 6:30 AM GMT
    The new wings on the 8i and the 78 give them both a certain elegance, and the extended hump on the 8i actually makes it look cooler than the -400, IMHO.

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    I think the thing that looks ungainly about the A380 is the position of the cockpit on the lower deck. It gives the plane a huge "forehead" and makes it look more whale like. The tail also also seems outsized, relative to the length of the fuselage -- altho I'm sure that aerodynamically it's the product of a million CFD calculations, aesthetically it's a bit awkward looking, relative to the swept back tail of the 74.

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    But I agree the A380 is seriously impressive up close.