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    Sep 26, 2011 6:46 AM GMT
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/special-editorial-yikes_594095.html


    The e-mails flooding into our inbox during the evening were less guarded. Early on, we received this missive from a bright young conservative: “I'm watching my first GOP debate...and WE SOUND LIKE CRAZY PEOPLE!!!!” As the evening went on, the craziness receded, and the demoralized comments we received stressed the mediocrity of the field rather than its wackiness. As one more experienced, and therefore more jaded, observer wrote: “I just thought maybe it’s always this bad...they’re only marginally worse than McCain and Bush.”

    "none of the candidates really seemed up to the moment, either politically or substantively."


    And this coming from a FOX news contributor?
    Political news and opinion from William Kristol at The Weekly Standard, a leading source for conservative editorial insights.
    William Kristol (born December 23, 1952) is an American neoconservative political analyst and commentator. He is the founder and editor of the political magazine The Weekly Standard and a regular commentator on the Fox News Channel.



    Hmmmmmmmmmmm me thinks some are actually smarter than others!
  • GQjock

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    Sep 26, 2011 9:50 AM GMT
    Yeah .... but he Looks like Reagan ........ LOL icon_cool.gif

    AMoonHawk saidI don't know if any of your noticed, but do you see any resemblance here:

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  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 26, 2011 12:29 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said



    Hmmmmmmmmmmm me thinks some are actually smarter than others!


    Bill Kristol is no friend of the left, but he can assess a specific with an insightful approach occasionally. It sounds this is one of those times!
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    Sep 26, 2011 12:44 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidBill Kristol is no friend of the left, but he can assess a specific with an insightful approach occasionally. It sounds this is one of those times!

    Guess he is only insightful when he makes a statement that the left agrees with. LOL Two points. Point 1: You have to realize where Kristol is coming from. He is quite conservative. If you read his comments, not just this one but over a period of time, his points about the performance of this administration are extremely insightful, and correct. You probably wouldn't consider him insightful then. From his perspective, he is no fan of Romney, and was reacting to the universally viewed performance of Perry as poor, along with the diminished role of Bachmann. He might have also been reacting to the format of the debate, where candidates have to respond, more or less, to specific questions, and can have difficulties focusing on the scandals and other news of this administration. But fear not, ads and speeches will cover that quite well.

    Point 2: Assuming Romney gains at the expense of Perry and Bachmann, guys in Kristol's position will continue to bemoan the circumstances. While the left may rejoice in his discomfort, you are also, in effect, rejoicing at the ascendency of a more moderate who will more likely clean your clocks in 2012. Just something to think about, if y'all do that sort thing from time to time. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 26, 2011 12:48 PM GMT

    "While the left may rejoice in his discomfort, you are also, in effect, rejoicing at the ascendency of a more moderate who will more likely clean you clocks in 2012. Just something to think about, if you'll do that sort thing from time to time."

    Or perhaps he's liking that someone moderate will do a better job than someone extreme, regardless of Party.
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    Sep 26, 2011 12:50 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    "While the left may rejoice in his discomfort, you are also, in effect, rejoicing at the ascendency of a more moderate who will more likely clean you clocks in 2012. Just something to think about, if you'll do that sort thing from time to time."

    Or perhaps he's liking that someone moderate will do a better job than someone extreme, regardless of Party.

    That may well be the case, but I don't think the thought process went that deep. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 26, 2011 12:53 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
    meninlove said
    "While the left may rejoice in his discomfort, you are also, in effect, rejoicing at the ascendency of a more moderate who will more likely clean you clocks in 2012. Just something to think about, if you'll do that sort thing from time to time."

    Or perhaps he's liking that someone moderate will do a better job than someone extreme, regardless of Party.

    That may well be the case, but I don't think the thought process went that deep. icon_lol.gif



    Conversely, I think it did. icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 26, 2011 12:56 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    socalfitness said
    meninlove said
    "While the left may rejoice in his discomfort, you are also, in effect, rejoicing at the ascendency of a more moderate who will more likely clean you clocks in 2012. Just something to think about, if you'll do that sort thing from time to time."
    Or perhaps he's liking that someone moderate will do a better job than someone extreme, regardless of Party.

    That may well be the case, but I don't think the thought process went that deep. icon_lol.gif


    Conversely, I think it did. icon_wink.gif

    Just to clarify - I think some are able to think deeply when they choose to, which is not always, and others don't have that capability at all. icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 26, 2011 2:34 PM GMT
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    HndsmKansan saidBill Kristol is no friend of the left, but he can assess a specific with an insightful approach occasionally. It sounds this is one of those times!

    Guess he is only insightful when he makes a statement that the left agrees with. LOL Two points. Point 1: You have to realize where Kristol is coming from. He is quite conservative. If you read his comments, not just this one but over a period of time, his points about the performance of this administration are extremely insightful, and correct. You probably wouldn't consider him insightful then. From his perspective, he is no fan of Romney, and was reacting to the universally viewed performance of Perry as poor, along with the diminished role of Bachmann. He might have also been reacting to the format of the debate, where candidates have to respond, more or less, to specific questions, and can have difficulties focusing on the scandals and other news of this administration. But fear not, ads and speeches will cover that quite well.

    Point 2: Assuming Romney gains at the expense of Perry and Bachmann, guys in Kristol's position will continue to bemoan the circumstances. While the left may rejoice in his discomfort, you are also, in effect, rejoicing at the ascendency of a more moderate who will more likely clean your clocks in 2012. Just something to think about, if y'all do that sort thing from time to time. icon_lol.gif


    Clean our clocks? I thought we were voting for the person who best represents the US and its citizens...........

    Now it is a win at all costs competition? Hmmmm.....
    Guess the powers leading the Republican party are only concerned about removing the black man from the WH and not the general welfare of the American public.
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    Sep 26, 2011 3:33 PM GMT
    Actually, these supposed debates are an insult to Americans inteligence, listen to the softball questions from the media, catch the lack of depth of subjects behind the exchanges. Its like a bunch of juvinile kids throwing inuendo's and mere talking points back and forth with little substance. The debates have been nothing but a piss poor level of civil discource for a dumbed down public,

    Listen to the audiences responses to some of the statements and this becomes frightening. Even more frightening is when Ron Paul actually tries to make substantive comments based on reality rather than just sticking to talking points without supstance, the 'silence is deafening'. The audience and the other repub candidates react with mostly dumb slience, like as if its out of style to make more reality based statements of what is behind our problems. They'd much rather hear dumbed down statements with no basis in fact like (1)Social Security is a failed program, (don't bring up the fact that SS has never contributed one dime toward the debt and that the Gov. Has barrowed trillions from it, but its out of style to say that), or (2) Obama's debt is killing our country (when its a known fact that he inherited most of the debt, but don't bring that up, you'll get booed)

    These debates are Joke and an embarassment to our inteligence, Americans on the whole can handle much more honest substantive discussions of the realities we face, rather than these scratch the surface talking points only , tit for tat crap. Has this TBagger mentality influenced the dumbing down of the debates ? I have to wonder, and don't expect much better when the dems enter the debates either.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 26, 2011 3:38 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    Guess the powers leading the Republican party are only concerned about removing the black man from the WH and not the general welfare of the American public.



    You are in dire need of some new material icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Bigolbear

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    Sep 26, 2011 3:57 PM GMT
    catfish5 said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidBill Kristol is no friend of the left, but he can assess a specific with an insightful approach occasionally. It sounds this is one of those times!

    Guess he is only insightful when he makes a statement that the left agrees with. LOL Two points. Point 1: You have to realize where Kristol is coming from. He is quite conservative. If you read his comments, not just this one but over a period of time, his points about the performance of this administration are extremely insightful, and correct. You probably wouldn't consider him insightful then. From his perspective, he is no fan of Romney, and was reacting to the universally viewed performance of Perry as poor, along with the diminished role of Bachmann. He might have also been reacting to the format of the debate, where candidates have to respond, more or less, to specific questions, and can have difficulties focusing on the scandals and other news of this administration. But fear not, ads and speeches will cover that quite well.

    Point 2: Assuming Romney gains at the expense of Perry and Bachmann, guys in Kristol's position will continue to bemoan the circumstances. While the left may rejoice in his discomfort, you are also, in effect, rejoicing at the ascendency of a more moderate who will more likely clean your clocks in 2012. Just something to think about, if y'all do that sort thing from time to time. icon_lol.gif


    Clean our clocks? I thought we were voting for the person who best represents the US and its citizens...........

    Now it is a win at all costs competition? Hmmmm.....
    Guess the powers leading the Republican party are only concerned about removing the black man from the WH and not the general welfare of the American public.


    Don't forget the 2004 "Anyone but Bush" bumper sticker campaign. So the right is doing something now that the left did. It's all good then.
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    Sep 26, 2011 4:07 PM GMT
    Bigolbear said
    catfish5 said
    socalfitness said
    HndsmKansan saidBill Kristol is no friend of the left, but he can assess a specific with an insightful approach occasionally. It sounds this is one of those times!

    Guess he is only insightful when he makes a statement that the left agrees with. LOL Two points. Point 1: You have to realize where Kristol is coming from. He is quite conservative. If you read his comments, not just this one but over a period of time, his points about the performance of this administration are extremely insightful, and correct. You probably wouldn't consider him insightful then. From his perspective, he is no fan of Romney, and was reacting to the universally viewed performance of Perry as poor, along with the diminished role of Bachmann. He might have also been reacting to the format of the debate, where candidates have to respond, more or less, to specific questions, and can have difficulties focusing on the scandals and other news of this administration. But fear not, ads and speeches will cover that quite well.

    Point 2: Assuming Romney gains at the expense of Perry and Bachmann, guys in Kristol's position will continue to bemoan the circumstances. While the left may rejoice in his discomfort, you are also, in effect, rejoicing at the ascendency of a more moderate who will more likely clean your clocks in 2012. Just something to think about, if y'all do that sort thing from time to time. icon_lol.gif


    Clean our clocks? I thought we were voting for the person who best represents the US and its citizens...........

    Now it is a win at all costs competition? Hmmmm.....
    Guess the powers leading the Republican party are only concerned about removing the black man from the WH and not the general welfare of the American public.


    Don't forget the 2004 "Anyone but Bush" bumper sticker campaign. So the right is doing something now that the left did. It's all good then.


    Never heard "Anyone but Bush" in 2004- but looking back, the saying turns out to be very prophetic.
  • Bigolbear

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    Sep 28, 2011 3:09 PM GMT
    I remember getting a lot of flack for supporting Kerry. Kerry wasn't the best person but he would have been a million times better than having Bush in office for a second term. I got a lot of flack from my conservative friends saying that you can vote and campaign against someone end expect to win.... well they were right then but they are doing the same thing now.