OnStar Is Always Watching You...Even When You Are Not Paying...

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    Sep 26, 2011 9:36 PM GMT
    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/onstar-tracks-you/

    "Navigation-and-emergency-services company OnStar is notifying its six million account holders that it will keep a complete accounting of the speed and location of OnStar-equipped vehicles, even for drivers who discontinue monthly service. OnStar began e-mailing customers Monday about its update to the privacy policy, which grants OnStar the right to sell that GPS-derived data in an anonymized format. Adam Denison, a spokesman for the General Motors subsidiary, said OnStar does not currently sell customer data, but it reserves that right. He said both the new and old privacy policies allow OnStar to chronicle a vehicle’s every movement and its speed, though it’s not clear where that’s stated in the old policy."

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    Sep 26, 2011 9:51 PM GMT
    Just unplug the antenna and they cant track the vehicle.
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    Sep 26, 2011 10:01 PM GMT
    And if you aren't clever enough to figure that out wrap the car in tinfoil

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    Sep 26, 2011 10:14 PM GMT
    david30101 saidJust unplug the antenna and they cant track the vehicle.

    Is that the same antenna for the satellite radio?
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    Sep 26, 2011 10:18 PM GMT
    Not so much of a fan of the nav/onstar for this reason. Its none of their business how fast I go and where I am.
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    Sep 26, 2011 10:28 PM GMT
    Not to worry. In a few years they'll be selling the info to the insurance companies so they can realistically estimate your premiums and they'll forced to download it to the police.
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    Sep 26, 2011 10:40 PM GMT
    beneful1 saidNot to worry. In a few years they'll be selling the info to the insurance companies so they can realistically estimate your premiums and they'll forced to download it to the police.
    +1
    It's only a matter of time before the word "privacy" is stricken from all dictionaries and vocabularies.
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    Sep 26, 2011 11:25 PM GMT
    beneful1 saidAnd if you aren't clever enough to figure that out wrap the car in tinfoil



    OMGLOL.

    I just bought Alcoa on margin.
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    Sep 26, 2011 11:48 PM GMT
    People have driven off the roadway and involved serious car accidents that were not discovered until days after it happened.

    It seems fashionable to complain about invasion of privacy until someone gets hurt, killed, leads police on a high-speed pursuit, or needs an alibi.


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    Sep 27, 2011 12:05 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    david30101 saidJust unplug the antenna and they cant track the vehicle.

    Is that the same antenna for the satellite radio?


    It might be in the same assembly. But, some antennas cover 1.5gHz GPS, 1.8gHz PCS and 850mHz cellular. I don't recommend that route.

    You will have better luck researching which black box (vehicle communications interface module) and unplugging that. They tend to locate these boxes inside the vehicle, behind the trim panels where it has a better chance surviving a collision.

    Your dealer may be liable, so don't go crazy asking for help.

    And, you might want to see if there is a fuse labeled....

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    Sep 27, 2011 2:56 AM GMT
    Not sure why this story is making rounds on the news sites. It's been around since Day 1. Years before GM offered free OnStar trial subscriptions, it was known that the system could be activated at any time. And your conversations could be heard through the microphone.

    Anyways, there are tutorials that explain how to completely disable it. Personally, OnStar was one of the reasons why I avoided buying GM vehicles, as well as some foreign cars. I believe Acura included OnStar on a few of their vehicles for a few years, until they finally decided to roll out their own service.
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    Sep 28, 2011 7:57 PM GMT
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/28/onstar_gps_tracking_former_customers/

    apparently, they got the message.